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| 133. Who says "far left"? Bill O'Reilly and what other assholes? |
| -ok, I"m sick and tired of people here saying the far left and the far right are equal |
Lerkfish |
Dec-25-09 06:16 AM |
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I agree. |
H2O Man |
Dec-25-09 06:18 AM |
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+1 |
JonLP24 |
Dec-26-09 07:27 AM |
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Correct |
quaker bill |
Dec-25-09 06:20 AM |
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And much more powerful |
nxylas |
Dec-26-09 06:53 AM |
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The first people to oppose the Iraq war were called "far left" |
mcablue |
Dec-25-09 06:21 AM |
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+1 |
corpseratemedia |
Dec-25-09 06:36 AM |
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Agreed, although it seems to be a DU tradition to characterize those with whom one doesn't agree, |
pampango |
Dec-25-09 06:40 AM |
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In another thread I was more than mocked |
Cary |
Dec-25-09 06:47 AM |
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equivalent not equavalent. |
cornermouse |
Dec-25-09 07:06 AM |
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You totally missed his point |
tavalon |
Dec-25-09 07:26 AM |
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Like the "namecalling" thing |
Cary |
Dec-25-09 07:44 AM |
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Why not? |
cornermouse |
Dec-25-09 08:07 AM |
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Whatever floats my boat is irrelevant |
Cary |
Dec-25-09 08:26 AM |
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Of course. |
cornermouse |
Dec-25-09 08:33 AM |
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That isn't what I'm saying |
Cary |
Dec-25-09 08:51 AM |
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"you people" |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-09 11:16 PM |
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I saw that and it was awful |
tavalon |
Dec-25-09 07:23 AM |
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Of course you were mocked. In the past we ahve had Presidential... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-25-09 07:24 AM |
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"people who know what they're talking about" - lol. It's these "experts" trying to push through |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-09 11:22 PM |
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OK, so we'll play Cultural Revolution and send all the... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-26-09 10:04 AM |
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Underwriting for health insurance is a fundamentally sociopathic thing to do |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 12:15 AM |
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Well, maybe it's a dirty job |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-26-09 09:40 AM |
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Doctors and lawyers provide actual services |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 10:55 PM |
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They are an unfortunate |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-27-09 10:17 AM |
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They are not necessary at all if we simply establish that everyone has the right to health care |
eridani |
Dec-27-09 04:22 PM |
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The only way |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-27-09 04:45 PM |
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Private insurance could still provide bells and whistles |
eridani |
Dec-27-09 06:36 PM |
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Private insurance |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-28-09 07:03 AM |
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Yes, Medicare for All just makes way too much sense! n/t |
eridani |
Dec-29-09 01:01 AM |
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I never worked for a health insurer, but a large part of any... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-26-09 10:10 AM |
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Simply accept the premise that everyone has the right to health care-- |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 10:56 PM |
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Two things, one you will like the other you will not. |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-25-09 09:18 AM |
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Where's a link to that thread? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-25-09 04:16 PM |
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LECTURE |
Jax |
Dec-26-09 12:46 AM |
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You're not equating liberalism |
otherlander |
Dec-26-09 10:58 PM |
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Philosophically, yes, very different. Tactically? Sometimes quite similar |
cali |
Dec-25-09 06:57 AM |
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Singing quite a different tune, aren't you. |
cornermouse |
Dec-25-09 07:08 AM |
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say what? I have no frickin' idea what you're trying to say. |
cali |
Dec-25-09 07:26 AM |
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I'm merely saying what I've seen. |
cornermouse |
Dec-25-09 08:31 AM |
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I noticed the sudden turnaround & the second sudden turnaround too. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-09 11:25 PM |
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Cornermouse is saying you're inconsistent |
Cary |
Dec-25-09 08:31 AM |
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More like attack mouse, if this thread is any indication |
tavalon |
Dec-25-09 07:28 AM |
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I haven't attacked anyone in this thread. I expressed a pov |
cali |
Dec-25-09 07:34 AM |
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Ethics aside, nut-right tactics sometimes work |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Dec-25-09 08:19 AM |
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The Futher You Go... |
KharmaTrain |
Dec-25-09 07:36 AM |
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You obviously missed threads calling for alliance with the fucking teabaggers.... |
JTFrog |
Dec-25-09 07:39 AM |
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There is a big difference: Over the last decades the Liberals have |
OHdem10 |
Dec-25-09 08:17 AM |
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SOME of the Far Left are equal in their intolerance and irrational hatred. BTW you don't speak for |
KittyWampus |
Dec-25-09 08:45 AM |
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It's just lazy thinking. |
Forkboy |
Dec-25-09 08:49 AM |
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I started a shit-storm the other day that makes precisely this point... |
WCGreen |
Dec-25-09 09:31 AM |
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Its not really new though - look at all the left-wing folks who flocked to Ron Paul... |
sweetloukillbot |
Dec-25-09 12:38 PM |
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people who flocked to ron paul aren't really lefties / nt... |
Ysabel |
Dec-27-09 12:31 AM |
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There is no difference between the FAR left and the FAR right |
Retired AF Dem |
Dec-25-09 09:40 AM |
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what an incredibly ignorant statement. |
bowens43 |
Dec-25-09 09:09 PM |
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Does that apply to the "moderate" health-insurance mandate, too? |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-09 11:26 PM |
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Who is far left? |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 06:24 AM |
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plonk |
JVS |
Dec-26-09 08:14 AM |
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I don't mind it. |
jgraz |
Dec-25-09 09:43 AM |
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In 1975 I was a middle-of-the-road Democrat. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-25-09 09:44 AM |
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I've had the opposite happen it seems... |
sweetloukillbot |
Dec-25-09 12:40 PM |
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I disagree; BUT I consider "public option" CENTER, not far left. |
snot |
Dec-25-09 11:02 AM |
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I've never understood why people are trying to claim that public option is far left |
liberal_at_heart |
Dec-26-09 12:03 AM |
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Really? |
panzerfaust |
Dec-25-09 11:08 AM |
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Yes, just look at the wide gulf between Obama and Bush.... |
hansberrym |
Dec-25-09 11:54 AM |
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"Under the radar, Obama pushes for Patriot Act renewal" |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-09 11:34 PM |
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You are suggesting |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 06:27 AM |
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Another example of the wide difference! :-) |
hansberrym |
Dec-25-09 12:28 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Dec-25-09 12:44 PM |
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K&R Does a "far left" even really exist in America? |
Jamastiene |
Dec-25-09 01:03 PM |
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it's really quite an insane comparison |
noiretextatique |
Dec-25-09 01:30 PM |
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Of course it is |
Hydra |
Dec-25-09 02:06 PM |
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Thanks for that, it seems that being extremely vocal about your views |
JAbuchan08 |
Dec-25-09 02:24 PM |
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I think it is a circle rather than a straight line |
treestar |
Dec-25-09 01:59 PM |
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If that's true |
Hydra |
Dec-25-09 02:07 PM |
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LOL, great point. |
JAbuchan08 |
Dec-25-09 02:25 PM |
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Where would you get that? |
treestar |
Dec-25-09 04:11 PM |
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No, you just made a point by accident and I ran with it |
Hydra |
Dec-25-09 04:21 PM |
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What people are noticing in common are activists bases - its got nothing to do with left and right. |
Political Heretic |
Dec-25-09 02:36 PM |
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Besides, the spectrum has shifted so far to the right, I don't even know what 'far left' means. |
Umbral |
Dec-25-09 02:47 PM |
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The further left you get the more government involvement |
treestar |
Dec-25-09 04:13 PM |
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In Britain, "far left" = "moderate socially liberal Tory" n/t |
eridani |
Dec-26-09 12:19 AM |
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I wish they'd also get off the 'negativity' horse as well |
juno jones |
Dec-25-09 02:47 PM |
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Hehe |
Hydra |
Dec-25-09 10:21 PM |
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is it okay then if we just say |
hfojvt |
Dec-25-09 04:23 PM |
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K&R. |
Greyhound |
Dec-25-09 04:55 PM |
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No argument here. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-25-09 08:03 PM |
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Everyone wants a PO, those who would kill the bill because it does not have a PO are "FAR LEFT" |
krawhitham |
Dec-25-09 08:56 PM |
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Too bad, the far left IS as batshit crazy as the far right |
WeDidIt |
Dec-25-09 09:13 PM |
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There was a time where the so called "far left" was just being a Democrat |
The Gunslinger |
Dec-25-09 09:17 PM |
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according to fox news, it still it. so it's funny to see the dlc types taking over fox |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-09 11:36 PM |
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When was that? |
Kaleva |
Dec-26-09 01:22 AM |
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Still searching for liberals in America - are there any left? |
scentopine |
Dec-25-09 09:30 PM |
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Its just the DLC crowd joining with the GOP to once again work to marginalize |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-25-09 09:31 PM |
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yep! |
Usrename |
Dec-25-09 11:03 PM |
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makes sense |
bridgit |
Dec-25-09 11:14 PM |
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Equal? No, but there are alot of similiarities |
JonQ |
Dec-25-09 11:19 PM |
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very true. |
parts |
Dec-27-09 12:59 AM |
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They both constantly bash the President. |
liquid diamond |
Dec-25-09 11:19 PM |
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If you can't tell left from right, you probably should leave politics to the adults. |
jgraz |
Dec-25-09 11:23 PM |
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I can tell them apart alright. |
liquid diamond |
Dec-26-09 12:51 AM |
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Advocates of the public option |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 06:37 AM |
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But they're mean to the President!!! |
JVS |
Dec-26-09 08:14 AM |
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And we know what a wilting little violet he is. |
jgraz |
Dec-26-09 12:00 PM |
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Did the far-right vote for this president? |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-26-09 12:25 AM |
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Another well done, Sabrina. nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 06:39 AM |
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+1 |
JVS |
Dec-26-09 08:16 AM |
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I am not afraid to call myself a progressive |
liberal_at_heart |
Dec-25-09 11:31 PM |
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They don't need to control your vote |
glitch |
Dec-25-09 11:58 PM |
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I blame two things: the idea that both sides of any issue are morally equal |
MisterP |
Dec-26-09 12:14 AM |
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Folks are more radcally left than others would have us believe or even acknowledge |
inthebrain |
Dec-26-09 12:19 AM |
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They use the same methods in an attempt to achieve their goals. |
Kaleva |
Dec-26-09 12:54 AM |
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I think everyone has a gut reaction to support anything that's an "option" |
TheWebHead |
Dec-26-09 12:56 AM |
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Well, according to the MSM, Lieberman, Nelson, Baucus, etc., are "MODERATE" Democrats. I guess that |
Atticus |
Dec-26-09 01:19 AM |
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Yes, according to the M$M. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 06:44 AM |
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like hamsher? and those saying we ought to ally w/teabaggers |
nofurylike |
Dec-26-09 01:22 AM |
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The far right hates socialism, the far left loves socialism. Simple as that. |
earth mom |
Dec-26-09 02:34 AM |
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The so-called "far left" is actually the "true left." |
Norrin Radd |
Dec-26-09 02:46 AM |
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Codswallop. Jane Hamsher and the assholes at Counterpunch are hardly |
cali |
Dec-26-09 06:29 AM |
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I don't consider Counterpunch as 'far left' |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-26-09 07:27 AM |
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Nor are they exclusively representative of "Far Left Americans". nt |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-26-09 07:50 AM |
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Not equal, |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-26-09 06:36 AM |
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Advocates of the public option |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 06:54 AM |
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That's not what I said, |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-26-09 09:27 AM |
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I've never seen them or |
Enthusiast |
Dec-26-09 10:37 AM |
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I don't care to take them off "Ignore" |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-26-09 10:36 PM |
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The most salient point is the differing agenda's.... (K&R) |
DWilliamsamh |
Dec-26-09 06:51 AM |
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2 differences: |
old mark |
Dec-26-09 07:14 AM |
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I think the far left |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-27-09 04:52 PM |
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I agree. Especially the way that 'far left' seems to be used in American politics. |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-26-09 07:24 AM |
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definitely not the same BUT |
iamthebandfanman |
Dec-26-09 07:25 AM |
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I couldn't agree more, but |
tomg |
Dec-26-09 08:02 AM |
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Great post... |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-26-09 11:28 AM |
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People should be banned for saying that because... |
JVS |
Dec-26-09 08:12 AM |
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You would have gotten more recs had you posted at a time when more people were not around because... |
JVS |
Dec-26-09 08:13 AM |
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The term "far left" is the new "liberal", being deliberately used to quiet dissent. It's disgusting |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Dec-26-09 08:16 AM |
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Yes. And the differences re right/left are substantial, despite the want of some to align them |
Echo In Light |
Dec-26-09 08:19 AM |
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You said it far more eloquently than I could. Thank you Echo |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Dec-26-09 12:03 PM |
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Not equal in the slightest, the far right get their shit done, the far left argue |
Stevenmarc |
Dec-26-09 08:25 AM |
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Since.... |
Aviation Pro |
Dec-26-09 08:28 AM |
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Who says "far left"? Bill O'Reilly and what other assholes? |
Iggo |
Dec-27-09 01:02 AM |
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just take a look around here , sadly |
natrat |
Dec-28-09 07:10 AM |
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People usually have a hard time defining... |
MellowDem |
Dec-27-09 06:43 PM |
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nt |
Shagbark Hickory |
Dec-28-09 07:21 AM |
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It is absurd |
blindpig |
Dec-28-09 08:16 AM |
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infiltration |
shanti |
Dec-29-09 01:05 AM |
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