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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 07:52 PM
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  -Nine ways Obama didnt fight for the robust public option he once promised us. Tom Rinaldo  Dec-22-09 09:22 PM   #0 
  - I know he's horrible right.  FarLeftFist   Dec-22-09 09:23 PM   #1 
  - Busted. That's it exactly, how did you know?  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-22-09 09:26 PM   #4 
  - Thank you, Tom, for a very thoughtful, smart indictment of the charade we have just  chimpymustgo   Dec-23-09 10:46 AM   #33 
  - Histrionics is hardly conducive to discussion of where things went wrong.  Liberal Veteran   Dec-22-09 09:31 PM   #9 
  - I was hoping sarcasm would evoke emotional reactions.  FarLeftFist   Dec-22-09 09:35 PM   #11 
     - And sadly, people use the "I guess you'd prefer McCain" very often  Overseas   Dec-22-09 09:42 PM   #15 
     - So then you admit to being manipulative?  Xicano   Dec-23-09 07:07 PM   #51 
  - because the only possible choice is between bush & the corporate dems...riiiiiiiight.  Hannah Bell   Dec-23-09 05:34 AM   #22 
  - Don't you ever get tired of that shit.  ThomCat   Dec-23-09 06:51 AM   #26 
  - It's not false  treestar   Dec-23-09 07:13 PM   #52 
     - You still ignore the idea of improving the party from within  ThomCat   Dec-23-09 07:20 PM   #53 
     - it's funny when you think about it  griffi94   Dec-23-09 08:05 PM   #58 
        - You're absolutely right about the catch-22.  ThomCat   Dec-23-09 08:34 PM   #59 
     - Then present Democrats, not infiltrators  sabrina 1   Dec-23-09 07:35 PM   #55 
  - Self delete  ljm2002   Dec-23-09 02:25 PM   #37 
  - *What* is the difference? What has Obama done? He has basically carried  davidwparker   Dec-23-09 07:07 PM   #50 
  - self-delete  ima_sinnic   Dec-25-09 07:52 PM   #63 
  - Ted Kennedy took Single payer off the table. So, the table was tilted right from the very start. nt  Captain Hilts   Dec-22-09 09:24 PM   #2 
  - A good point to be made if true and I have no reason to doubt you  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-22-09 09:29 PM   #5 
  - I was surprised because I inherently trust him. I think he felt that he could  Captain Hilts   Dec-22-09 09:38 PM   #13 
  - of course, Ted's not here to back up that statement  Donnachaidh   Dec-22-09 09:30 PM   #6 
  - It's not a slam against Ted, whom I admire greatly, especially on this issue, but it was  Captain Hilts   Dec-22-09 09:39 PM   #14 
     - His loss when we lost him was a severe blow  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-22-09 09:42 PM   #16 
  - Not so fast. This DailyKos blog tells a different story. Single-Payer may be alive....  EVDebs   Dec-23-09 07:02 PM   #48 
  - Sounds like he was crossing his fingers behind his back anyway.  dkf   Dec-22-09 09:24 PM   #3 
  - Very solid argument.  Laelth   Dec-22-09 09:30 PM   #7 
  - Could be b/c the HC system donated $18 million to his campaign too.  FarLeftFist   Dec-22-09 09:33 PM   #10 
  - That would be my answer #2, above.  Laelth   Dec-22-09 09:43 PM   #18 
  - For the purpose of this OP I decided to stay away from the matter of motives  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-22-09 09:53 PM   #20 
  - I choose door #2.  Jim Sagle   Dec-22-09 09:43 PM   #17 
  - +100  amborin   Dec-27-09 12:49 AM   #65 
  - Like you say, those are the choices we have  truedelphi   Dec-23-09 02:49 PM   #39 
  - #2. nt  SammyWinstonJack   Dec-25-09 08:56 PM   #64 
  - That damn Obama, can't do anything right. nt  babylonsister   Dec-22-09 09:30 PM   #8 
  - EPIC FLAIL.  Zenlitened   Dec-23-09 12:25 PM   #34 
  - K&R. Thoughtful post, by and large.  Zenlitened   Dec-22-09 09:36 PM   #12 
  - I have some mixed feelings about that one also  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-22-09 09:46 PM   #19 
     - All true.  Zenlitened   Dec-23-09 12:26 PM   #35 
  - Obama is pragmatic. He assesses the landscape for what it is, not  Kahuna   Dec-23-09 05:30 AM   #21 
  - yes, you know his secret heart. when certain senators spoke, he was powerless.  Hannah Bell   Dec-23-09 05:37 AM   #23 
  - Is 'pragmatic' the word, or wimpy?  closeupready   Dec-23-09 02:25 PM   #38 
  - "Pragmatic" does not mean stacking the deck with insurance executives.  EFerrari   Dec-23-09 03:07 PM   #41 
  - Well written, Rinaldo!  Mimosa   Dec-23-09 06:43 AM   #24 
  - They should have used reconciliation when they had the public option in their version  Major Hogwash   Dec-23-09 06:47 AM   #25 
  - Pres. Obama has clearly stated he did NOT campaign on a Public Option. Can't we all just revise  piratefish08   Dec-23-09 06:52 AM   #27 
  - Good idea. Revolution? What Revolution?  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-23-09 07:16 AM   #28 
  - Obama promised a public option (July 17, 2009). Sign the petition at...Yes, We Still Can  EVDebs   Dec-23-09 07:00 PM   #47 
  - Kick since this is now a top recommended Kos Diary  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-23-09 09:56 AM   #29 
  - That just about covers it  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-23-09 09:58 AM   #30 
  - "Refusal to threaten a turning of the screws against early non Republican resisters"  madfloridian   Dec-23-09 10:04 AM   #31 
  - K&R  KoKo   Dec-23-09 10:06 AM   #32 
  - K & R.  chill_wind   Dec-23-09 02:17 PM   #36 
  - K&R.  Vidar   Dec-23-09 03:05 PM   #40 
  - I hope Obama continues to reject these calls to employ the 'bull in a china shop' approach  guruoo   Dec-23-09 04:03 PM   #42 
  - Me too because his handing everything over to the top 2%,  Old Time Pagan   Dec-23-09 06:50 PM   #45 
  - Well done. K+R This was not defensible nor should it be yet  saracat   Dec-23-09 05:14 PM   #43 
  - k&R  midnight   Dec-23-09 06:15 PM   #44 
  - knr  frylock   Dec-23-09 06:54 PM   #46 
  - This reads like the D of I's list of charges against the King. nt  coti   Dec-23-09 07:03 PM   #49 
  - Maybe  treestar   Dec-23-09 07:24 PM   #54 
  - You really skew things in your approach to Number Three  truedelphi   Dec-23-09 07:35 PM   #56 
     - Obama is dealing with a lot of issues and not just this  treestar   Dec-23-09 07:49 PM   #57 
        - Everyone could have been insured under a really good plan, and not this  truedelphi   Dec-24-09 02:51 AM   #60 
  - In 1968 at the age of 14 I had my first argument about single payer systems  grantcart   Dec-24-09 02:35 PM   #61 
     - There a lot of things that we don't know  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-25-09 11:27 AM   #62 

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