Xicano
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Wed Dec-23-09 07:07 PM
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| 51. So then you admit to being manipulative? |
| -Nine ways Obama didn’t fight for the robust public option he once promised us. |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-22-09 09:22 PM |
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I know he's horrible right. |
FarLeftFist |
Dec-22-09 09:23 PM |
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Busted. That's it exactly, how did you know? |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-22-09 09:26 PM |
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Thank you, Tom, for a very thoughtful, smart indictment of the charade we have just |
chimpymustgo |
Dec-23-09 10:46 AM |
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Histrionics is hardly conducive to discussion of where things went wrong. |
Liberal Veteran |
Dec-22-09 09:31 PM |
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I was hoping sarcasm would evoke emotional reactions. |
FarLeftFist |
Dec-22-09 09:35 PM |
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And sadly, people use the "I guess you'd prefer McCain" very often |
Overseas |
Dec-22-09 09:42 PM |
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So then you admit to being manipulative? |
Xicano |
Dec-23-09 07:07 PM |
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because the only possible choice is between bush & the corporate dems...riiiiiiiight. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-23-09 05:34 AM |
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Don't you ever get tired of that shit. |
ThomCat |
Dec-23-09 06:51 AM |
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It's not false |
treestar |
Dec-23-09 07:13 PM |
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You still ignore the idea of improving the party from within |
ThomCat |
Dec-23-09 07:20 PM |
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it's funny when you think about it |
griffi94 |
Dec-23-09 08:05 PM |
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You're absolutely right about the catch-22. |
ThomCat |
Dec-23-09 08:34 PM |
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Then present Democrats, not infiltrators |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-23-09 07:35 PM |
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Self delete |
ljm2002 |
Dec-23-09 02:25 PM |
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*What* is the difference? What has Obama done? He has basically carried |
davidwparker |
Dec-23-09 07:07 PM |
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self-delete |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-25-09 07:52 PM |
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Ted Kennedy took Single payer off the table. So, the table was tilted right from the very start. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Dec-22-09 09:24 PM |
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A good point to be made if true and I have no reason to doubt you |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-22-09 09:29 PM |
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I was surprised because I inherently trust him. I think he felt that he could |
Captain Hilts |
Dec-22-09 09:38 PM |
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of course, Ted's not here to back up that statement |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-22-09 09:30 PM |
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It's not a slam against Ted, whom I admire greatly, especially on this issue, but it was |
Captain Hilts |
Dec-22-09 09:39 PM |
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His loss when we lost him was a severe blow |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-22-09 09:42 PM |
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Not so fast. This DailyKos blog tells a different story. Single-Payer may be alive.... |
EVDebs |
Dec-23-09 07:02 PM |
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Sounds like he was crossing his fingers behind his back anyway. |
dkf |
Dec-22-09 09:24 PM |
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Very solid argument. |
Laelth |
Dec-22-09 09:30 PM |
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Could be b/c the HC system donated $18 million to his campaign too. |
FarLeftFist |
Dec-22-09 09:33 PM |
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That would be my answer #2, above. |
Laelth |
Dec-22-09 09:43 PM |
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For the purpose of this OP I decided to stay away from the matter of motives |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-22-09 09:53 PM |
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I choose door #2. |
Jim Sagle |
Dec-22-09 09:43 PM |
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+100 |
amborin |
Dec-27-09 12:49 AM |
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Like you say, those are the choices we have |
truedelphi |
Dec-23-09 02:49 PM |
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#2. nt |
SammyWinstonJack |
Dec-25-09 08:56 PM |
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That damn Obama, can't do anything right. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-22-09 09:30 PM |
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EPIC FLAIL. |
Zenlitened |
Dec-23-09 12:25 PM |
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K&R. Thoughtful post, by and large. |
Zenlitened |
Dec-22-09 09:36 PM |
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I have some mixed feelings about that one also |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-22-09 09:46 PM |
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All true. |
Zenlitened |
Dec-23-09 12:26 PM |
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Obama is pragmatic. He assesses the landscape for what it is, not |
Kahuna |
Dec-23-09 05:30 AM |
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yes, you know his secret heart. when certain senators spoke, he was powerless. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-23-09 05:37 AM |
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Is 'pragmatic' the word, or wimpy? |
closeupready |
Dec-23-09 02:25 PM |
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"Pragmatic" does not mean stacking the deck with insurance executives. |
EFerrari |
Dec-23-09 03:07 PM |
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Well written, Rinaldo! |
Mimosa |
Dec-23-09 06:43 AM |
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They should have used reconciliation when they had the public option in their version |
Major Hogwash |
Dec-23-09 06:47 AM |
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Pres. Obama has clearly stated he did NOT campaign on a Public Option. Can't we all just revise |
piratefish08 |
Dec-23-09 06:52 AM |
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Good idea. Revolution? What Revolution? |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-23-09 07:16 AM |
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Obama promised a public option (July 17, 2009). Sign the petition at...Yes, We Still Can |
EVDebs |
Dec-23-09 07:00 PM |
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Kick since this is now a top recommended Kos Diary |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-23-09 09:56 AM |
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That just about covers it |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-23-09 09:58 AM |
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"Refusal to threaten a turning of the screws against early non Republican resisters" |
madfloridian |
Dec-23-09 10:04 AM |
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K&R |
KoKo |
Dec-23-09 10:06 AM |
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K & R. |
chill_wind |
Dec-23-09 02:17 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Dec-23-09 03:05 PM |
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I hope Obama continues to reject these calls to employ the 'bull in a china shop' approach |
guruoo |
Dec-23-09 04:03 PM |
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Me too because his handing everything over to the top 2%, |
Old Time Pagan |
Dec-23-09 06:50 PM |
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Well done. K+R This was not defensible nor should it be yet |
saracat |
Dec-23-09 05:14 PM |
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k&R |
midnight |
Dec-23-09 06:15 PM |
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knr |
frylock |
Dec-23-09 06:54 PM |
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This reads like the D of I's list of charges against the King. nt |
coti |
Dec-23-09 07:03 PM |
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Maybe |
treestar |
Dec-23-09 07:24 PM |
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You really skew things in your approach to Number Three |
truedelphi |
Dec-23-09 07:35 PM |
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Obama is dealing with a lot of issues and not just this |
treestar |
Dec-23-09 07:49 PM |
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Everyone could have been insured under a really good plan, and not this |
truedelphi |
Dec-24-09 02:51 AM |
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In 1968 at the age of 14 I had my first argument about single payer systems |
grantcart |
Dec-24-09 02:35 PM |
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There a lot of things that we don't know |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-25-09 11:27 AM |
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