truedelphi
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Tue Dec-22-09 03:22 AM
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| 39. What Tweety did not mention is that during LBJ's term there were only 700 |
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Lobbyists in Washington DC.
Right now there are 7,000.
That is why we cannot rely on any notion that they will "fix" this later.
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| -Swallow this bill, we'll improve it later is BULLSHIT! |
nosmokes |
Dec-21-09 08:14 PM |
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They said the same thing...absolutely the SAME thing abou the Patriot Act. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-21-09 08:15 PM |
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exactly... and now almost ten years later |
ixion |
Dec-21-09 08:19 PM |
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Huh? Who wanted to "improve on" the Patriot Act? |
treestar |
Dec-21-09 09:11 PM |
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Yeah, we GET that you are late to the party |
glitch |
Dec-21-09 09:53 PM |
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Do no HARM - better the status quo then this atrocity - a recipe for enslavement |
debbierlus |
Dec-21-09 11:24 PM |
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The Patriot Act.... |
bvar22 |
Dec-21-09 11:24 PM |
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Great point! They did, indeed... n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-22-09 02:06 PM |
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AND NAFTA!! We Are Such Stupid IDIOTS!! We're Going To Let Them Roll Us |
ChiciB1 |
Dec-22-09 06:51 PM |
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Don't worry, we will refine Nafta later...... |
Yuugal |
Dec-21-09 08:18 PM |
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And they did. They passed the last round of GATT |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-21-09 08:58 PM |
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I cant wait for my pacific rimjob...... nt |
Yuugal |
Dec-21-09 09:01 PM |
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LOL! (n/t) |
whatchamacallit |
Dec-21-09 09:10 PM |
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Har! |
nosmokes |
Dec-22-09 04:21 PM |
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Hey, that's terrible on lots of levels. |
rhett o rick |
Dec-22-09 05:13 PM |
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yep, you said it |
ixion |
Dec-21-09 08:19 PM |
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or course it is bullshit. any idiot with half a brain knows that. |
jonnyblitz |
Dec-21-09 08:19 PM |
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Tom Harkin sheepishly told Rachel Maddow "the Senate has too much on its plate in 2010" to do more. |
David Zephyr |
Dec-21-09 08:24 PM |
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Yep. "we'll improve it later" carries the same weight as "no bill without a public option". k&r |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-09 08:26 PM |
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All lies |
peace frog |
Dec-22-09 02:57 PM |
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You'd think after 30 years of them saying such nonsense you'd figure it out |
AllentownJake |
Dec-21-09 08:27 PM |
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Social security is one of the next targets. nt |
PufPuf23 |
Dec-21-09 08:30 PM |
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Well they couldn't privatize it in 2005 |
AllentownJake |
Dec-21-09 08:34 PM |
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Republicans couldn't. |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-21-09 09:55 PM |
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I'm no pollyanna, but I don't think social security will ever be ended |
whathehell |
Dec-22-09 02:25 PM |
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True - when there were actual elections |
JFN1 |
Dec-22-09 04:46 PM |
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Ronnie Raygun touched it, Hard, and he is an American hero. nt |
rhett o rick |
Dec-22-09 05:15 PM |
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He didn't end it. And if he did, he'd be an American Villain. |
whathehell |
Dec-22-09 05:31 PM |
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Noone is stupid enough to "end it". They will just fix it until it kills itself. And Ronnie started |
rhett o rick |
Dec-22-09 05:49 PM |
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"Noone"? |
whathehell |
Dec-23-09 12:16 AM |
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I agree with mr jake. You are being picky about words. nt |
rhett o rick |
Dec-23-09 08:31 AM |
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You agree with Mr. Jake, but disagree with me?....Funny, because we both said the same thing |
whathehell |
Dec-23-09 10:29 AM |
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The bubble machine doesn't have a lot of options left now that confidence has been destroyed in the |
glitch |
Dec-21-09 10:00 PM |
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Look at Arne Duncan and Charter Schools |
PufPuf23 |
Dec-21-09 11:22 PM |
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we should start asking DUers how they feel about Social Security |
fascisthunter |
Dec-22-09 02:58 PM |
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It's like having the doctor tell you he's going to give you a lobotomy, BUT |
cherokeeprogressive |
Dec-21-09 08:27 PM |
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I see you love terrible analogies as much as me. It's like the doctor telling you he is going to |
rhett o rick |
Dec-22-09 05:19 PM |
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LOL I love that one! n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Dec-22-09 05:43 PM |
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Mite as well LOL, cant cry anymore. NGU. nt |
rhett o rick |
Dec-22-09 05:48 PM |
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Your eyelids are getting heavy. After I count to 3 you will forget all about any improvement. |
phasma ex machina |
Dec-21-09 08:36 PM |
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If it didn't bother me to do the cliche "110%" I'd give you more than a 100% agreement :) |
Wardoc |
Dec-21-09 08:37 PM |
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Give me a blank check for this bridge, and next month I'll send you the deed of title |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-21-09 08:51 PM |
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If a good bill can't be passed now when we have the majority |
Raine |
Dec-21-09 08:56 PM |
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But no point in having the Public Option because it's so crippled. We can't go back and fix it... |
FormerDittoHead |
Dec-21-09 09:02 PM |
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Look at history, many programs have been improved on since they began |
treestar |
Dec-21-09 09:13 PM |
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Name one after Ronald Reagan nt. |
AllentownJake |
Dec-21-09 10:14 PM |
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Why? |
Qutzupalotl |
Dec-22-09 01:45 PM |
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Institutionalizing fascism is not progress. |
PufPuf23 |
Dec-21-09 11:27 PM |
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And when do you expect enough votes will be had to pass a strong public option? |
Better Believe It |
Dec-22-09 04:06 PM |
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You mean like Medicare? |
Raineyb |
Dec-22-09 05:07 PM |
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I figure they'll just make it even worse later. nt |
valerief |
Dec-21-09 09:36 PM |
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Fix it later my ass !!!!!!!!!!! |
blues90 |
Dec-21-09 09:44 PM |
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K&R |
Odin2005 |
Dec-21-09 09:47 PM |
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Sorry, but I disagree |
Motown_Johnny |
Dec-21-09 09:53 PM |
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What Tweety did not mention is that during LBJ's term there were only 700 |
truedelphi |
Dec-22-09 03:22 AM |
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And more lobbyists after this passes |
ArcticFox |
Dec-22-09 03:24 PM |
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What he also did not mention |
skepticscott |
Dec-22-09 06:46 PM |
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That is why I think it is absurd to believe that |
truedelphi |
Dec-23-09 02:19 AM |
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And don't be asking for more stuff, you got your health care reform.nt |
Tim01 |
Dec-21-09 10:00 PM |
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It's called let's not repeat a history that has led us nowhere. |
HuckleB |
Dec-21-09 10:15 PM |
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The issue with swallowing this bitter pill, as suggested by Dr. Dean, is that |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-21-09 10:20 PM |
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That's a very big problem. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-09 10:59 PM |
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Here, drive your car now, |
WT Fuheck |
Dec-21-09 11:23 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Dec-22-09 06:22 AM |
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When the insurance companies come to the table....they get everything they want.... |
coyote |
Dec-22-09 08:22 AM |
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We don't have our foot in the door. The insurance industry has their boot in our ass! |
Better Believe It |
Dec-22-09 04:10 PM |
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K&R |
Faryn Balyncd |
Dec-22-09 08:49 AM |
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I'd agree. Enough of the Fix-it Later Fairy Tales. |
chill_wind |
Dec-22-09 11:30 AM |
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That's Dubya Talk |
Blue Owl |
Dec-22-09 11:55 AM |
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A big fucking K&R!!! |
Libertas1776 |
Dec-22-09 11:59 AM |
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If they couldn't get the good stuff now |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-22-09 12:00 PM |
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Saw that, but I think he was a Congressman. He's no loss |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-22-09 01:48 PM |
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YES it is! |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-22-09 01:52 PM |
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They tell you that if the bill fails |
Mnpaul |
Dec-22-09 01:58 PM |
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Gosh, if you can't believe a senator, who can you believe? And next time, |
change_notfinetuning |
Dec-22-09 02:48 PM |
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Krugman: Pass the Bill |
johan helge |
Dec-22-09 01:58 PM |
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yes...kill this bill. It's a bad bill. |
winyanstaz |
Dec-22-09 02:18 PM |
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If they simply scuttle the bill and expand medicare to everyone in reconcilliation, we have a winner |
grahamhgreen |
Dec-22-09 02:43 PM |
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I think they need to mess it up a little more and THEN pass it. |
Wizard777 |
Dec-22-09 02:47 PM |
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I own a company |
wolfgangmo |
Dec-22-09 04:52 PM |
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K&R (nt) |
fascisthunter |
Dec-22-09 02:59 PM |
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Even Krugman is saying that. I don't like it either. nt. |
mistertrickster |
Dec-22-09 04:00 PM |
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That is only your opinion, and you have no facts on which to base it. All facts say the opposite. |
stevenleser |
Dec-22-09 04:56 PM |
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The Realization That |
WVRICK13 |
Dec-22-09 04:56 PM |
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That's why the repukes are going to fight it no matter what... |
hughee99 |
Dec-22-09 05:23 PM |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah they also said it about ... |
mntleo2 |
Dec-22-09 05:38 PM |
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K&R |
girl_interrupted |
Dec-22-09 06:11 PM |
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How many bills have actually been improved over time or come in under budget? |
Clear Blue Sky |
Dec-22-09 06:34 PM |
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Top House Liberal Suggests He Could Accept Deal On Senate Bill |
ProSense |
Dec-22-09 06:51 PM |
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Have you read the bill? Have you read the House bill? What exactly are the POS differences? |
Kablooie |
Dec-22-09 07:12 PM |
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K&R |
invictus |
Dec-22-09 07:23 PM |
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FISA and PATRIOT ACT...show...THEY WILL NEVER RE-VISIT/REPAIR the BILL |
KoKo |
Dec-22-09 07:39 PM |
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Let's see... |
rasputin1952 |
Dec-22-09 07:50 PM |
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OK....so |
Highway61 |
Dec-22-09 08:33 PM |
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