Hassin Bin Sober
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:57 PM
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| 28. She's raising money and skirting campaign donation limits by claiming ... |
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Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 08:59 PM by Hassin Bin Sober
.... to be against more than one candidate. THAT is the important piece of his complaint. He's not, as the article says, merely trying to silence a critic for insulting him. Grayson is hitting back at a bogus PAC/Republican Operative - you know, the way we all screamed Kerry should have done. Free speech is great. Even lies are protected when you lie about a politician. But the game changes when you fraudulently fill out FEC forms and raise money. I encourage everyone to READ THE LETTER to Holder. http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/files/20... I will concede he probably made a tactical error by including the complaint about her "juvenile" attacks because the "liberal" media and the right wing Wurlitzer will focus in on that piece (as they already have) and the public will react negatively (as seen on DU)....Next thing you know, Grayson is the next Chavez. |
| -Grayson wants to send critic to jail for five years |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:25 PM |
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Actually it isn't. It's not the criticism, it's the deception. |
Jim Sagle |
Dec-18-09 07:29 PM |
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She's the head of the Lake County Republican party to boot |
dmr |
Dec-19-09 12:44 AM |
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Disappointing. |
gateley |
Dec-18-09 07:31 PM |
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Maybe his ego is out of control |
robcon |
Dec-18-09 07:32 PM |
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I don't believe Grayson is posturing. The Web site creator has lied to federal officials |
johnfunk |
Dec-18-09 08:01 PM |
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I've always thought there was something "off" about him. n/t |
cali |
Dec-18-09 07:37 PM |
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There's nothing 'off' about calling a liar a liar! |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-18-09 07:44 PM |
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Calling a liar a liar is fine... |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:52 PM |
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I missed the part of the article |
quakerboy |
Dec-18-09 08:07 PM |
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If the law allows him to, more power to him |
JVS |
Dec-18-09 08:33 PM |
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Well Cali... |
trumad |
Dec-19-09 06:32 AM |
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+100 |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:45 AM |
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Free speech or Deceptive speech? I'm not an attorney but this sounds like defamation of character? |
midnight |
Dec-18-09 07:38 PM |
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I don't think you can defame a congressman. |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:45 PM |
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Did you read his complaint? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:31 PM |
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I don't think free speech as defined by the Founding |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-18-09 07:41 PM |
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I don't think you understand free speech. |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:49 PM |
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True, political speech in the found father's time was rather... spirited |
NobleCynic |
Dec-18-09 07:56 PM |
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They still close the bars in PA on election day during polling hours |
AllentownJake |
Dec-18-09 08:07 PM |
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Early elections were nothing but shit flinging and vote buying |
AllentownJake |
Dec-18-09 08:06 PM |
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Oh my god yes. I've read some of the stuff they said to each other back then. |
Danger Mouse |
Dec-18-09 08:09 PM |
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Are you saying our opponents can use these worst tactics |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:00 AM |
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come on.... |
mike_c |
Dec-18-09 07:55 PM |
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She's raising money and skirting campaign donation limits by claiming ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 08:57 PM |
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Because fund-raising is involved, |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:05 AM |
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hahahahahaha. your ignorance is showing. that you know fuck all |
cali |
Dec-18-09 08:07 PM |
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and more power to him for trying to do so |
ldf |
Dec-18-09 11:00 PM |
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Would you prefer this being replicated all over the country as Republicans |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:10 AM |
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I know a great deal about the speech at the time. |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-19-09 01:44 AM |
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No, YOUR ignorance is showing that YOU know fuck all! |
rd_kent |
Dec-19-09 03:28 PM |
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The asshat who put up the website deserves it -for flat out lying |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Dec-18-09 07:58 PM |
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By that standard, there goes The Onion - and Jon Stewart, Steve Colbert, & SNL, for that matter...nt |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 08:28 PM |
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When those folks you mention start fund-raising and fraudulently filing FEC forms .. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:02 PM |
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Oh, my point is spot-on - and it stands undisputed. Nice try, though. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 09:03 PM |
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Do those folks raise money? Have they filed FEC forms? No. Your point doesn't mean shit. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:11 PM |
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You're changing the subject. That's not a very honest way to discuss things among adults. Return to |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 09:29 PM |
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No problem. Just so you are straight on the issue of free speech versus FEC fund-raising laws. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:34 PM |
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I posted nothing about FEC fund-raising laws. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Your serial dishonesty in implying so, |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 09:37 PM |
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You posted in a thread that is about EXACTLY THAT and made an analogy to entertainers. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:48 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:54 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:56 PM |
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My guess is that your adversary has just "ignored" you |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:17 AM |
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Dec-19-09 08:36 AM |
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Correct. At this point it's better to let the MODs take out the trash. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 01:28 PM |
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Are they raising funds for Republican candidates |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-19-09 02:11 PM |
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Gee, did they raise campaign funds by falsifying where they live? |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:13 AM |
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Dec-19-09 08:50 AM |
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See post 24 to join the lawsuit. nt. |
WriteDown |
Dec-18-09 08:34 PM |
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Or perhaps we as a country have become too timid |
quakerboy |
Dec-18-09 08:11 PM |
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She's raising money to unseat him, saying she's a constituent when she isn't. |
Marr |
Dec-18-09 08:23 PM |
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Good for him. I support his effort to force his critics to at least not lie. |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-18-09 08:24 PM |
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Exactly! Who here will join my class action suit against myspace.com??? |
WriteDown |
Dec-18-09 08:31 PM |
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When MySpace starts raising funds and fraudulently filling out FEC forms, you might have a point. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:25 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:40 PM |
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LOL. You would rather have this discussion be about Jon Stewart and his lies. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:52 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:54 PM |
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Hey, I was just pointing out your bogus analogy. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:02 PM |
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Dec-18-09 10:06 PM |
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Difficult to comprehend the mentality that wears itself out pretending it can't read. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 10:08 PM |
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Looks like its now a "committee" so I doubt anything will come from this |
WriteDown |
Dec-19-09 12:37 AM |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "now" it's a committee? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:33 AM |
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She shouldn't lie about her district |
JVS |
Dec-18-09 08:31 PM |
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She can lie about her district all she wants. She just can't do that and raise funds. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:14 PM |
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I'll take "What is US Code: Title 18, 1001?" for $100,000 |
varelse |
Dec-18-09 09:00 PM |
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Good points raised here. |
RedCloud |
Dec-18-09 09:18 PM |
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Thank you |
varelse |
Dec-19-09 03:26 PM |
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You mean there's been a law against astroturfing the whole time?! |
rucky |
Dec-18-09 10:12 PM |
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Sure there has. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:25 PM |
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See post 61, nt |
WriteDown |
Dec-19-09 12:39 AM |
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You wanted me to visit the smear site? |
varelse |
Dec-19-09 03:24 PM |
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Oh, hell yes. Gulag all those RW MF'rs. Re-education camps all around.. |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-18-09 09:09 PM |
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And here we see that "moderates" and "centrists" at DU would rather side with someone committing... |
JVS |
Dec-18-09 09:33 PM |
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Sad. I think some people just read the headline and the Politico spin. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:21 PM |
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She's a Republican. Grayson hates Republicans. What's so hard to understand? |
jgraz |
Dec-18-09 10:19 PM |
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Ohfergodssake. DUers are the most fickle bunch I've ever known in my life. Last month you wanted... |
Hekate |
Dec-18-09 10:26 PM |
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LOL. So true. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:37 PM |
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Arresting someone for that is excessing |
Juche |
Dec-18-09 11:08 PM |
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You are assuming there ISN'T a suit planned. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 11:35 PM |
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I'll say something that's unpopular. |
Meldread |
Dec-19-09 12:23 AM |
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We go by his stances and votes. |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:28 AM |
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I don't doubt that he's a progressive. |
Meldread |
Dec-19-09 03:52 AM |
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I wish more Dems would put on that type of show. |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 06:45 AM |
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The other side calls us grandma killers, baby killers, commies, socialists ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:52 AM |
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If he feels that this is a lie |
Angry Dragon |
Dec-19-09 12:45 AM |
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And all it takes is a Politico smear against him for you to push him under a bus. |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:31 AM |
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I've never been caught up in the Grayson swooning |
cali |
Dec-19-09 04:00 AM |
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So, friend, who are the "good" Jewish elected officials in your opinion? n/t |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 06:21 AM |
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wtf? there are lots of non-jewish members of Congress who |
cali |
Dec-19-09 06:49 AM |
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if you can't stand the heat, at least don't sweat when you're in the kitchen - stoopid move Grayson |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-19-09 04:13 AM |
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Taking on an illegal PAC is beneath him? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:29 AM |
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I'm just saying he could have had one of his people write the letter - it is beneath him for me |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-19-09 09:24 AM |
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I get where you are coming from. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 09:34 AM |
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the posters here falling for this distortion are either |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-19-09 08:52 AM |
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