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Fri Dec-18-09 07:45 PM
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| 8. I don't think you can defame a congressman. |
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Maybe we should remove Mark Twain books from the library for lines like "We have the best congress that money can buy."
I think that Grayson is quite entertaining, but when you get members of Congress demanding that the Attorney General imprison someone for creating a website that is "crude and tasteless" then you have got a big problem with a politician who has some pretty dictatorial leanings. Just think what would happen if Perez Hilton turned his unsavory gaze to Capitol Hill!
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| -Grayson wants to send critic to jail for five years |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:25 PM |
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Actually it isn't. It's not the criticism, it's the deception. |
Jim Sagle |
Dec-18-09 07:29 PM |
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She's the head of the Lake County Republican party to boot |
dmr |
Dec-19-09 12:44 AM |
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Disappointing. |
gateley |
Dec-18-09 07:31 PM |
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Maybe his ego is out of control |
robcon |
Dec-18-09 07:32 PM |
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I don't believe Grayson is posturing. The Web site creator has lied to federal officials |
johnfunk |
Dec-18-09 08:01 PM |
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I've always thought there was something "off" about him. n/t |
cali |
Dec-18-09 07:37 PM |
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There's nothing 'off' about calling a liar a liar! |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-18-09 07:44 PM |
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Calling a liar a liar is fine... |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:52 PM |
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I missed the part of the article |
quakerboy |
Dec-18-09 08:07 PM |
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If the law allows him to, more power to him |
JVS |
Dec-18-09 08:33 PM |
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Well Cali... |
trumad |
Dec-19-09 06:32 AM |
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+100 |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:45 AM |
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Free speech or Deceptive speech? I'm not an attorney but this sounds like defamation of character? |
midnight |
Dec-18-09 07:38 PM |
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I don't think you can defame a congressman. |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:45 PM |
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Did you read his complaint? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:31 PM |
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I don't think free speech as defined by the Founding |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-18-09 07:41 PM |
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I don't think you understand free speech. |
rayofreason |
Dec-18-09 07:49 PM |
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True, political speech in the found father's time was rather... spirited |
NobleCynic |
Dec-18-09 07:56 PM |
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They still close the bars in PA on election day during polling hours |
AllentownJake |
Dec-18-09 08:07 PM |
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Early elections were nothing but shit flinging and vote buying |
AllentownJake |
Dec-18-09 08:06 PM |
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Oh my god yes. I've read some of the stuff they said to each other back then. |
Danger Mouse |
Dec-18-09 08:09 PM |
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Are you saying our opponents can use these worst tactics |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:00 AM |
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come on.... |
mike_c |
Dec-18-09 07:55 PM |
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She's raising money and skirting campaign donation limits by claiming ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 08:57 PM |
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Because fund-raising is involved, |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:05 AM |
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hahahahahaha. your ignorance is showing. that you know fuck all |
cali |
Dec-18-09 08:07 PM |
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and more power to him for trying to do so |
ldf |
Dec-18-09 11:00 PM |
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Would you prefer this being replicated all over the country as Republicans |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:10 AM |
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I know a great deal about the speech at the time. |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-19-09 01:44 AM |
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No, YOUR ignorance is showing that YOU know fuck all! |
rd_kent |
Dec-19-09 03:28 PM |
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The asshat who put up the website deserves it -for flat out lying |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Dec-18-09 07:58 PM |
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By that standard, there goes The Onion - and Jon Stewart, Steve Colbert, & SNL, for that matter...nt |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 08:28 PM |
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When those folks you mention start fund-raising and fraudulently filing FEC forms .. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:02 PM |
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Oh, my point is spot-on - and it stands undisputed. Nice try, though. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 09:03 PM |
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Do those folks raise money? Have they filed FEC forms? No. Your point doesn't mean shit. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:11 PM |
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You're changing the subject. That's not a very honest way to discuss things among adults. Return to |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 09:29 PM |
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No problem. Just so you are straight on the issue of free speech versus FEC fund-raising laws. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:34 PM |
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I posted nothing about FEC fund-raising laws. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Your serial dishonesty in implying so, |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 09:37 PM |
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You posted in a thread that is about EXACTLY THAT and made an analogy to entertainers. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:48 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:54 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:56 PM |
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My guess is that your adversary has just "ignored" you |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:17 AM |
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Dec-19-09 08:36 AM |
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Correct. At this point it's better to let the MODs take out the trash. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 01:28 PM |
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Are they raising funds for Republican candidates |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-19-09 02:11 PM |
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Gee, did they raise campaign funds by falsifying where they live? |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:13 AM |
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Dec-19-09 08:50 AM |
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See post 24 to join the lawsuit. nt. |
WriteDown |
Dec-18-09 08:34 PM |
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Or perhaps we as a country have become too timid |
quakerboy |
Dec-18-09 08:11 PM |
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She's raising money to unseat him, saying she's a constituent when she isn't. |
Marr |
Dec-18-09 08:23 PM |
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Good for him. I support his effort to force his critics to at least not lie. |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-18-09 08:24 PM |
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Exactly! Who here will join my class action suit against myspace.com??? |
WriteDown |
Dec-18-09 08:31 PM |
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When MySpace starts raising funds and fraudulently filling out FEC forms, you might have a point. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:25 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:40 PM |
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LOL. You would rather have this discussion be about Jon Stewart and his lies. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:52 PM |
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Dec-18-09 09:54 PM |
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Hey, I was just pointing out your bogus analogy. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:02 PM |
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Dec-18-09 10:06 PM |
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Difficult to comprehend the mentality that wears itself out pretending it can't read. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-18-09 10:08 PM |
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Looks like its now a "committee" so I doubt anything will come from this |
WriteDown |
Dec-19-09 12:37 AM |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "now" it's a committee? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:33 AM |
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She shouldn't lie about her district |
JVS |
Dec-18-09 08:31 PM |
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She can lie about her district all she wants. She just can't do that and raise funds. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 09:14 PM |
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I'll take "What is US Code: Title 18, 1001?" for $100,000 |
varelse |
Dec-18-09 09:00 PM |
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Good points raised here. |
RedCloud |
Dec-18-09 09:18 PM |
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Thank you |
varelse |
Dec-19-09 03:26 PM |
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You mean there's been a law against astroturfing the whole time?! |
rucky |
Dec-18-09 10:12 PM |
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Sure there has. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:25 PM |
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See post 61, nt |
WriteDown |
Dec-19-09 12:39 AM |
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You wanted me to visit the smear site? |
varelse |
Dec-19-09 03:24 PM |
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Oh, hell yes. Gulag all those RW MF'rs. Re-education camps all around.. |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-18-09 09:09 PM |
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And here we see that "moderates" and "centrists" at DU would rather side with someone committing... |
JVS |
Dec-18-09 09:33 PM |
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Sad. I think some people just read the headline and the Politico spin. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:21 PM |
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She's a Republican. Grayson hates Republicans. What's so hard to understand? |
jgraz |
Dec-18-09 10:19 PM |
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Ohfergodssake. DUers are the most fickle bunch I've ever known in my life. Last month you wanted... |
Hekate |
Dec-18-09 10:26 PM |
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LOL. So true. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 10:37 PM |
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Arresting someone for that is excessing |
Juche |
Dec-18-09 11:08 PM |
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You are assuming there ISN'T a suit planned. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-18-09 11:35 PM |
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I'll say something that's unpopular. |
Meldread |
Dec-19-09 12:23 AM |
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We go by his stances and votes. |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:28 AM |
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I don't doubt that he's a progressive. |
Meldread |
Dec-19-09 03:52 AM |
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I wish more Dems would put on that type of show. |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 06:45 AM |
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The other side calls us grandma killers, baby killers, commies, socialists ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:52 AM |
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If he feels that this is a lie |
Angry Dragon |
Dec-19-09 12:45 AM |
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And all it takes is a Politico smear against him for you to push him under a bus. |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 01:31 AM |
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I've never been caught up in the Grayson swooning |
cali |
Dec-19-09 04:00 AM |
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So, friend, who are the "good" Jewish elected officials in your opinion? n/t |
clear eye |
Dec-19-09 06:21 AM |
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wtf? there are lots of non-jewish members of Congress who |
cali |
Dec-19-09 06:49 AM |
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if you can't stand the heat, at least don't sweat when you're in the kitchen - stoopid move Grayson |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-19-09 04:13 AM |
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Taking on an illegal PAC is beneath him? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 08:29 AM |
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I'm just saying he could have had one of his people write the letter - it is beneath him for me |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-19-09 09:24 AM |
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I get where you are coming from. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-19-09 09:34 AM |
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the posters here falling for this distortion are either |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-19-09 08:52 AM |
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