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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:45 PM
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16. Sure it would work that way in an ideal world
In the real world enough of the MSM will say the Republicans are heroic for stopping evil gubmint socialism. Furthermore, the senate rules allow the Majority Leader to allow senate business to continue as well. That's the point I was making earlier. Before then if a filibuster was going on the Majority Leader could go on TV and say "look my hands are tied, they are the only ones that can allow senate business to go on by stopping the filibuster". Now he has the option to let senate business go on and if he doesn't use it he will get blame as well as the minority.
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  -can someone explain why the senate doesn't require real filibusters anymore? yurbud  Dec-14-09 05:13 PM   #0 
  - Probably an excuse to carry corporate water - convenient cover. nt  polichick   Dec-14-09 05:17 PM   #1 
  - Clearly, it would not be "bipartisan"..  Fumesucker   Dec-14-09 05:18 PM   #2 
  - Jimmy Stewart made it look too strenuous.  Kablooie   Dec-14-09 05:23 PM   #3 
  - Lazy old men  HughMoran   Dec-14-09 05:25 PM   #4 
  - Byrd  KrR   Dec-14-09 05:28 PM   #5 
  - That would be ungentlemanly  notesdev   Dec-14-09 05:33 PM   #6 
  - Senate collegiality supposedly trumps partisanship. Seems to during Dem as well as Repuke majorities  timeforpeace   Dec-14-09 05:41 PM   #7 
  - if it was really collegiality, when a progressive proposed something, they would be too polite  yurbud   Dec-15-09 02:07 AM   #19 
  - because they fear (with some reason) that it could backfire  onenote   Dec-14-09 05:42 PM   #8 
  - The civil rights filibuster was broken because Mansfield watered down the bill...  Hippo_Tron   Dec-14-09 06:00 PM   #10 
  - Simple game theory, credible commitments  Hippo_Tron   Dec-14-09 05:58 PM   #9 
  - I'm not sure about your scenario.  clear eye   Dec-14-09 07:03 PM   #15 
     - Sure it would work that way in an ideal world  Hippo_Tron   Dec-14-09 07:45 PM   #16 
        - Ahh. So that's what's gone wrong and changed the # of filibusters  clear eye   Dec-15-09 01:51 AM   #18 
           - We're talking about the biggest item on the Democrats' legislative agenda  Hippo_Tron   Dec-15-09 02:18 AM   #20 
           - In this particular instance it's not about the number  Hippo_Tron   Dec-15-09 02:22 AM   #21 
  - Kayfabe  inna   Dec-14-09 06:12 PM   #11 
  - they became an embarassment to the institution. all senators felt like fools explaining it  unblock   Dec-14-09 06:45 PM   #12 
  - cause both houses of congress have too many gold bricks, that don't like to really work...  bridgit   Dec-14-09 06:51 PM   #13 
  - Excellent question.  clear eye   Dec-14-09 06:53 PM   #14 
  - Because they are all very good friends.  asdjrocky   Dec-14-09 07:47 PM   #17 

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