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9. nclb took a huge assault and vouchers another and now this adds
even more - if they break the teacher union we will have no major union in the usa for the workers any more and education will be doomed to make robots and corporate slaves
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  -Fight for unions shown on the History Channel contrasts with busting of teachers' unions madfloridian  Dec-13-09 08:27 PM   #0 
  - Paging Robert Greenwald  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-13-09 08:31 PM   #1 
  - Wait until they have ALL families paying for public education. They'll blame the teachers no doubt.  MichiganVote   Dec-13-09 08:35 PM   #2 
  - I think you are exactly right.  ThomCat   Dec-13-09 08:54 PM   #4 
  - You mean instead of mostly property owners?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Dec-13-09 10:48 PM   #21 
     - And renters and people who do business in the community  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-14-09 12:18 PM   #56 
     - And everyone pays fees on top pf taxes. More "fees" will be assessed on students who attend school.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:43 PM   #80 
     - I mean inspite of property owner taxes. Keep in mind there are diff. funding structures by state.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:44 PM   #81 
  - Yes, Arne Duncan is a lapdog for corporate fascism.  Metta   Dec-13-09 08:37 PM   #3 
  - Arne Duncan was Mayor Daley's yes man  Chisox08   Dec-13-09 10:51 PM   #22 
  - He is Obama's lapdog. The President must be held accountable as well.  Mithreal   Dec-13-09 11:23 PM   #24 
     - Yep. He's creating and inheriting the karma now.  Metta   Dec-14-09 12:03 PM   #52 
  - K&R  Waiting For Everyman   Dec-13-09 08:59 PM   #5 
  - I don't remember Agnew and an education policy...  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 09:20 PM   #8 
  - It's not limited to the teacher unions.  olegramps   Dec-14-09 09:13 AM   #33 
  - WORD  librechik   Dec-14-09 11:36 AM   #48 
  - interesting, i'd like to know the name too.  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 01:27 PM   #66 
  - I was against Bush NCLB but this is taking even more aim at unions than Bush did  2Design   Dec-13-09 09:18 PM   #6 
  - The Democratic Party is apparently in bed with the  tonysam   Dec-13-09 09:19 PM   #7 
     - nclb took a huge assault and vouchers another and now this adds  2Design   Dec-13-09 09:24 PM   #9 
        - The unions are already being co-opted  tonysam   Dec-13-09 09:27 PM   #10 
        - School leaders will do anything to get Arne's money.  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 10:00 PM   #17 
           - didn't obama appoint this guy ans support this - school leaders  2Design   Dec-13-09 10:10 PM   #18 
           - Yes, I think under NCLB schools are required to give name to recruiters.  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 10:44 PM   #19 
           - They always have  Thothmes   Dec-14-09 07:19 PM   #92 
        - public unions = last bastion of organized labor, where rank & file can be moved quickly for  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 01:21 PM   #64 
  - My MIL was a public school teacher for almost 40 years. She walked the picket line and this K&R is  Brickbat   Dec-13-09 09:27 PM   #11 
  - I taught over 30 years.  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 09:32 PM   #13 
     - We live in northern Minnesota and she walked the line in December many years ago.  Brickbat   Dec-13-09 09:44 PM   #16 
     - FYI  Sancho   Dec-14-09 06:53 AM   #27 
  - I see way too many Hondas in the teachers' parking lot  Fading Captain   Dec-13-09 09:31 PM   #12 
  - That is the biggest bunch of BS....And yes, Granholm is selling teachers out there.  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 09:34 PM   #14 
  - You sound anti-union AND anti-teacher.  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 09:36 PM   #15 
  - Incredible  teacher gal   Dec-14-09 12:44 AM   #25 
  - And they won't see the connection  michreject   Dec-14-09 07:19 AM   #31 
  - Teachers did NOT cause Michigan's economic problems  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 10:12 AM   #34 
  - Consumers buying over-rated Toyotas caused Michigan's economic problems  Kolesar   Dec-14-09 10:28 AM   #36 
  - You are messing up a thread with much blame and little reality.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 10:30 AM   #37 
  - I don't see any TV industry here anymore  Kolesar   Dec-14-09 10:43 AM   #39 
     - My point: It is NOT the fault of teachers that jobs are gone.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 10:47 AM   #42 
  - Nonsense. The problem is trade law, easily as corrupted as the rest of our Gov't.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:48 PM   #83 
  - I'm not angry  michreject   Dec-14-09 10:46 AM   #41 
     - bs.  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 01:34 PM   #68 
        - Since the only reply you have is BS.  michreject   Dec-14-09 03:10 PM   #73 
           - as i told you before, teachers = 4.2% of the workforce. thus, BS.  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 07:01 PM   #91 
  - bs.  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 01:32 PM   #67 
  - Hondas are made in the USA  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-14-09 12:37 PM   #58 
  - By non union workers  michreject   Dec-14-09 12:58 PM   #61 
     - I thought Honda had unionized its plants here  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-14-09 01:04 PM   #62 
        - Honda is not union  michreject   Dec-14-09 01:25 PM   #65 
  - Really? Last time I looked all I saw were USED cars cuz' they can't afford a new vehicle.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:47 PM   #82 
  - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation also trying to dismantle unions  mrmpa   Dec-13-09 10:45 PM   #20 
  - Hillsborough Co got 100 million from Gates for merit pay and incentives.  madfloridian   Dec-13-09 11:01 PM   #23 
  - K&R n/t  teacher gal   Dec-14-09 12:47 AM   #26 
  - Charter schools are weakening the Teachers union  michreject   Dec-14-09 07:01 AM   #28 
  - Why don't the charter school teacher unionize like the public school teachers did?  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-14-09 07:08 AM   #29 
  - Why can't the UAW organize Asian auto makers? nt  michreject   Dec-14-09 07:13 AM   #30 
  - It hasn't stopped them from organizing at Mitsubishi:  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-14-09 07:27 AM   #32 
  - They are afraid  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-14-09 03:59 PM   #76 
     - They're starting to  mrmpa   Dec-14-09 04:27 PM   #78 
        - The charters here are hiring teachers who aren't certified  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-14-09 04:50 PM   #79 
  - You are blaming teachers for auto company failures? Two of you are in this thread.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 10:14 AM   #35 
     - No  michreject   Dec-14-09 10:43 AM   #40 
        - massive bs. teachers = 4.2% of the US workforce, & some own union cars.  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 01:44 PM   #69 
           - BS  michreject   Dec-14-09 03:08 PM   #72 
              - 4% of the workforce. they didn't "help" more than any other consumers,  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 06:59 PM   #90 
  - Now I've seen it all. 3 in this thread blame teachers for auto company failures.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 10:37 AM   #38 
  - You should take a reading comp class  michreject   Dec-14-09 11:05 AM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-14-09 11:09 AM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-14-09 11:15 AM   #45 
  - No, they're NOT a large segment.  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 01:47 PM   #70 
     - They're identified as "professionals," but in terms of what they do,  tonysam   Dec-14-09 02:42 PM   #71 
        - Oh that's really funny. Like Doctors these days have "discretion" over Ins. companies.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:53 PM   #85 
        - fine, but my post was responding to the claim that teachers were  Hannah Bell   Dec-14-09 06:50 PM   #89 
  - I wonder how many auto-worker's kids  Starry Messenger   Dec-14-09 12:10 PM   #55 
     - Be careful about being too critical.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 12:43 PM   #59 
        - I'm just trying to even things out here.  Starry Messenger   Dec-14-09 12:54 PM   #60 
           - Yep, you are right.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 01:06 PM   #63 
  - Michigan parents' group wants teachers put in jail. Perhaps why the negativity...  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 11:26 AM   #46 
  - Yep, it could explain part of the misdirected anger....  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 11:33 AM   #47 
  - More about Sharlonda Buckman who wants all Detroit teachers jailed.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 11:49 AM   #51 
  - Sharlonda also wants schools officials jailed...and sued just like teachers  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 12:20 PM   #57 
  - Money is just an excuse that  Crzyrussell   Dec-14-09 08:44 PM   #95 
  - Like everything else...frustration runs deep and so does stupidity.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:54 PM   #86 
  - K&R  Echo In Light   Dec-14-09 11:38 AM   #49 
  - Teachers are grossly underpaid  Time for change   Dec-14-09 11:45 AM   #50 
  - K&R  Bozita   Dec-14-09 12:08 PM   #53 
  - K&R! n/t  Kermitt Gribble   Dec-14-09 12:10 PM   #54 
  - teachers' unions are a terrible thing  katkat   Dec-14-09 03:55 PM   #74 
  - Aren't they terrible? Let's just do away with unions altogether and let the teachers  tonysam   Dec-14-09 03:57 PM   #75 
  - Well, I guess you will get what you consider important enough to pay for.  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 04:15 PM   #77 
  - education is important  katkat   Dec-14-09 06:30 PM   #88 
     - Sure they do. Sure they do.  tonysam   Dec-14-09 07:51 PM   #93 
     - You think teachers live like "the leisured class"? Really?  madfloridian   Dec-14-09 11:16 PM   #96 
  - Damn I should be teaching in Rhode Island!  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-14-09 05:49 PM   #84 
  - Because God forbid we blame the goddamn wealthy for being cheapskates.  MichiganVote   Dec-14-09 05:56 PM   #87 
  - I'm thanking all my former teachers, I write my local union newsletter  Omaha Steve   Dec-14-09 08:11 PM   #94 
     - Nice post.  madfloridian   Dec-15-09 11:15 AM   #97 

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