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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:38 AM
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20. Sure we have some standards, but if each of us pollutes at a rate more than3 times that of a Chinese
citizen, it's hard to say that China is the biggest problem.

It will be a huge problem in the future and needs to be dealt with, but the "rich" countries that pollute more (and have for decades - perhaps centuries since the Industrial Revolution) should take the lead. It's a little disingenuous for us to say, "Sorry about our decades of polluting everything, but we can't allow your per capita pollution to get to our level."

None of us would want to hear some rich guy tell us regular folks that we have to tighten our belts because he has been living beyond his means for decades and has really messed things up for everyone. He is sorry but he has to tighten his belt now and we are going to have to do the same. (Rich guy feels compelled to point out that we regular folks were living beyond our means for the last few years, too.)

We may end up agreeing that we have to tighten our own belts for the good of our country and ourselves since we are all in this together. Or we might not do that and pursue a strategy of going after the rich guy and tell him that we are not changing a damn thing about our life style because he, the rich guy, caused the problem.

China, too, should come to the realization that they will have to tighten their belts (because we're all in the world together) even though they are not as rich as the West. Right now it looks like they prefer to spend their time arguing that the problem was not caused by them, so they are not changing anything about their "life style" and the solution to global pollution should be paid by the "rich guy" who caused the problem.
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  -If our elected leaders were really serious about job creation and the environment AllentownJake  Dec-13-09 07:04 PM   #0 
  - K&R  polichick   Dec-13-09 07:12 PM   #1 
  - K&R  FreakinDJ   Dec-13-09 07:16 PM   #2 
  - I've been arguing for these changes for quite some time  HughMoran   Dec-13-09 07:22 PM   #3 
  - US companies are profiting from cheap labor and pollution of the 3rd world. nt.  AllentownJake   Dec-13-09 07:24 PM   #4 
     - Yes, I've been in manufacturing since I graduated 25 years ago. It's maddening  HughMoran   Dec-13-09 07:31 PM   #9 
        - I did figuratively spit in their face  AllentownJake   Dec-13-09 07:33 PM   #10 
           - Good for you  HughMoran   Dec-13-09 07:38 PM   #11 
              - Mine was over auditing standards  AllentownJake   Dec-13-09 07:40 PM   #12 
                 - Another family member filed a lawsuit against a company  HughMoran   Dec-13-09 08:46 PM   #14 
  - +1,000,000,000,067,004^897  Deja Q   Dec-13-09 07:25 PM   #5 
  - Repeal "Free Trade"! knr nt  Union Yes   Dec-13-09 07:26 PM   #6 
  - The power brokers haven't signed off yet on creating 'green jobs'  Cirque du So-What   Dec-13-09 07:26 PM   #7 
  - Well they can't hide in Dubai nt.  AllentownJake   Dec-13-09 09:29 PM   #15 
  - Rec for every point you made  laughingliberal   Dec-13-09 07:30 PM   #8 
  - KNFR.  Brickbat   Dec-13-09 07:42 PM   #13 
  - K&R  New Dawn   Dec-13-09 09:32 PM   #16 
  - Morning kick  AllentownJake   Dec-14-09 04:53 AM   #17 
  - If we are the biggest polluter on the planet per capita, who has lower standards than us?  pampango   Dec-14-09 05:36 AM   #18 
  - True  AllentownJake   Dec-14-09 09:05 AM   #19 
     - Sure we have some standards, but if each of us pollutes at a rate more than3 times that of a Chinese  pampango   Dec-14-09 09:38 AM   #20 
  - K & R. WTF is Cap and Trade anyway???  chimpymustgo   Dec-14-09 09:58 AM   #21 

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