| -He lost me at the word 'evil.' |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 08:51 AM |
#0 |
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yep. |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-12-09 08:54 AM |
#1 |
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If you are unwilling to engage in moral discourse, Obama's speech was not for you. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 08:54 AM |
#2 |
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Perpetuating a phony "war" is akin to promoting "moral discourse" in which universe? |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 09:08 AM |
#11 |
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Don't change the subject. Obama could have promoted his war in non-moral terms |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 09:22 AM |
#26 |
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How am I changing the subject? |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 09:57 AM |
#54 |
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Being for or against the war in Afghanistan is an entirely different subject |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:01 AM |
#59 |
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Not coming from someone who plays a direct role in escalating war, it's not |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 10:03 AM |
#63 |
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Can't have it both ways. Be in the same boat with those who ridicule the antiwar movement |
Duende azul |
Dec-12-09 09:31 PM |
#200 |
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Who's made any attempt to have it both ways? |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:10 PM |
#205 |
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not a phony war |
d3m0l1sh3r |
Dec-12-09 04:06 PM |
#136 |
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interesting profile - Hacking is a Crime |
Torn_Scorned_Ignored |
Dec-12-09 10:34 PM |
#206 |
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Ask the innocent women, children and men of Afghanistan |
pokercat999 |
Dec-13-09 08:12 AM |
#242 |
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The stated reasons that the US is involved there are lies, based on lies, period. |
Echo In Light |
Dec-13-09 09:21 AM |
#247 |
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The topic is the speech |
Autonomy |
Dec-13-09 01:56 AM |
#226 |
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I am not against engaging in moral discourse. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 09:08 AM |
#12 |
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Yes, it is possible to engage in moral discourse in a way that does not admit of nuance. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 09:33 AM |
#36 |
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So a moral discussion justifies such language? A lot of what he did... |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-12-09 09:25 AM |
#29 |
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Language like "evil" when discussing groups like al Qaeda? Yes. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 09:56 AM |
#53 |
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Hmm... why is evil a loaded term? |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-12-09 10:20 AM |
#71 |
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Yes, clearly nobody used "evil" before George W. Bush. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:24 AM |
#74 |
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Not what you expected, eh? |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-12-09 10:32 AM |
#76 |
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If you have no problem with that logical consequence of your statement |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:47 AM |
#83 |
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"I'm not sure what people's problem is with that word (evil)." -- you |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-12-09 11:14 AM |
#98 |
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How is that a response? |
Vattel |
Dec-12-09 05:42 PM |
#163 |
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LOL! |
paulk |
Dec-12-09 06:53 PM |
#177 |
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I have a sister |
shirlden |
Dec-13-09 06:28 AM |
#236 |
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I didn't mean to tar absolutely everyone in the Christian Right. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-13-09 09:25 AM |
#248 |
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Doesn't the Evil vs Good theme go back to Ronald Reagan? |
varelse |
Dec-12-09 07:06 PM |
#182 |
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And Reagan, in turn, got it from |
tomg |
Dec-13-09 02:30 AM |
#227 |
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What else could we expect from a B-movie actor? (nt) |
varelse |
Dec-13-09 10:20 AM |
#252 |
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I refer you to the links below: |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-12-09 02:43 PM |
#115 |
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What does this post have to do with anything I said? |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 04:19 PM |
#142 |
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No! You turn BOTH blind eyes to your country's demonic role as a superpower - |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-12-09 06:01 PM |
#167 |
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I don't think you have any substantive idea about what I think regarding US foreign policy. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 07:08 PM |
#184 |
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Stupid is as Stupid does to quote Forrest |
digidigido |
Dec-13-09 03:04 AM |
#228 |
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Dominating the world by military force is evil |
eridani |
Dec-12-09 02:43 PM |
#116 |
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Yes and yes. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 04:20 PM |
#143 |
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800 military bases around the globe are for what, then? |
eridani |
Dec-13-09 11:11 PM |
#262 |
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by your description, we too are evil |
northernlights |
Dec-12-09 03:14 PM |
#129 |
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By my description, yes, particular instances of US conduct have been evil. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 04:24 PM |
#145 |
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we're better than they are because |
northernlights |
Dec-13-09 05:01 PM |
#260 |
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I'm not sure what people's problem is with that word. |
AlbertCat |
Dec-12-09 09:14 PM |
#197 |
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The people in Afghanistan may disagree with you. |
SharksBreath |
Dec-13-09 07:31 AM |
#237 |
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By all appearances, the people of Afghanistan don't |
Unvanguard |
Dec-13-09 09:27 AM |
#249 |
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If Obama Cared About "Morality", We'd Be Intervening In Hundreds Of Other Areas Around the Globe. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-12-09 09:30 AM |
#32 |
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Both of those statements are not true. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 09:38 AM |
#40 |
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We are now winging our justification for war in Afghanistan IMHO. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 10:02 AM |
#61 |
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That's a fair point, that the "evil" discourse distracts from the real policy issues. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:18 AM |
#69 |
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I did think it was a very good speech. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 10:27 AM |
#75 |
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I think we need to stop looking at Obama through the lens of Bush. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:39 AM |
#81 |
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So...We Can't Intervene Just "Anywhere" It Would Be Moral To Do So... |
Toasterlad |
Dec-12-09 10:52 AM |
#87 |
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Did you read either of Obama's speeches? |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 10:55 AM |
#89 |
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Simply opinion. Indeed it seems more like conjecture. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-12-09 02:51 PM |
#121 |
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it is perfectly possible to construct a justification |
SharksBreath |
Dec-13-09 07:38 AM |
#239 |
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It seems like many fail to understand anything other than simplistic bumper sticker discussions. |
HuckleB |
Dec-12-09 10:22 AM |
#72 |
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My moral norms include-- |
eridani |
Dec-12-09 02:40 PM |
#113 |
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So do mine. US conduct in Afghanistan (as in Iraq) has not always been in accordance |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 05:45 PM |
#165 |
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If you're are unwilling to engage in reason, you shouldn't abuse the language like this. |
JackRiddler |
Dec-12-09 04:52 PM |
#149 |
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best post of the week, maybe the month n/t |
Vattel |
Dec-12-09 05:21 PM |
#157 |
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Oh, i'm damn well willing to discourse morality, but using subjective terms |
jobycom |
Dec-12-09 05:22 PM |
#158 |
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Did you read his speech? (Either of his speeches?) |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 05:43 PM |
#164 |
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Yeah, and I typed a really long response, and it failed to post. |
jobycom |
Dec-12-09 07:00 PM |
#180 |
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But in that very quote he's distinguishing himself from Bush. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 07:06 PM |
#183 |
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Only in linguistic skill |
jobycom |
Dec-13-09 12:12 AM |
#217 |
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Yes, "war is still the final word" |
Unvanguard |
Dec-13-09 09:17 AM |
#246 |
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Good points |
varelse |
Dec-12-09 07:12 PM |
#185 |
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Please click on my journal link below and read a compilation of the main points of the speech. |
patrice |
Dec-12-09 10:48 PM |
#207 |
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the problem comes in when moral certitude is falsely applied to a morally ambiguous situation |
Lerkfish |
Dec-12-09 06:16 PM |
#171 |
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Sure. I'll do it right now if you like. |
Unvanguard |
Dec-12-09 07:24 PM |
#188 |
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"The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of every man." |
lostnfound |
Dec-13-09 06:19 AM |
#235 |
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Well said. |
enlightenment |
Dec-12-09 08:55 AM |
#3 |
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Totally agree. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-12-09 08:56 AM |
#4 |
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Oh, there's evil alright. And right now, Obama is the lesser of two.... |
Junkdrawer |
Dec-12-09 08:56 AM |
#5 |
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k&r n/t |
blindpig |
Dec-12-09 09:03 AM |
#6 |
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Your idea that evil doesn't exist is just wishful thinking. I think you need to learn about ethnic |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 09:04 AM |
#7 |
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Evidence of asshole humans is not evidence of "evil" |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 09:20 AM |
#23 |
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"asshole" would be the person letting their dog poop on the lawn. Murding hundreds or thousands or |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 09:22 AM |
#24 |
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So are you defining "Evil" as "Really Bad"? |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 09:25 AM |
#28 |
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could we get any more semantic here? Perhaps you could start your |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 09:29 AM |
#31 |
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Invoking a spiritual/religious /supernatural term to describe being really bad to other humans.... |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 09:34 AM |
#38 |
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"highly motivate extremist bringing harm to the world" ....umm, such as |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 09:41 AM |
#42 |
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Yes, as I said, a rational person might interpret the spiritual terminology that way |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 09:44 AM |
#46 |
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Let me know if you have any other problems with another single |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 09:51 AM |
#50 |
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Its a pretty important word. Weaving in spiritual & religious trigger words and leaving it open to.. |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 09:59 AM |
#56 |
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No it wasn't a boo boo, in your case it was a deliberate manipulation of the meaning |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 10:35 AM |
#78 |
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Its a word that can be manipulated in many ways, including spiritual and religiously |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 11:03 AM |
#93 |
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what doesn't? |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 06:35 PM |
#174 |
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Well, the word "brick" most certainly is less loaded than "evil" |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 07:43 PM |
#189 |
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so does the term "act of god" but i assume my home owner's insurance policy isn't being spiritual |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 11:15 PM |
# |
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"anyone with half a brain knows" |
Oregone |
Dec-13-09 01:00 AM |
#220 |
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Why must you resort to name calling? |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-13-09 05:25 AM |
#233 |
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i grew up in the south too, gay and non-white as a matter of fact |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-13-09 10:54 AM |
#254 |
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I don't think he was dogwhistling. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-13-09 11:01 AM |
#255 |
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dupe |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 11:15 PM |
#212 |
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point |
patrice |
Dec-12-09 11:20 PM |
#213 |
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You need a dictionary because you don't know the definitions of the word evil |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 09:54 AM |
#52 |
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Evil means A LOT of things, some definable by little black books people read on Sunday |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 10:00 AM |
#58 |
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So who are you to say declare that was the definition that was used by President Obama? |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 10:04 AM |
#64 |
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I'm just another person interpreting a word with MANY different meanings, some religious and spiritu... |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 10:19 AM |
#70 |
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Bull, you are manipulating the truth for your own purposes. The FACT |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 10:34 AM |
#77 |
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Egg on his face. He used a word that got all the fundie girls wet. |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 11:00 AM |
#91 |
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Number one meaning in Websters |
CLANG |
Dec-12-09 06:16 PM |
#172 |
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Ah...the dictionary...not quite as circulated as the Bible |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 07:48 PM |
#190 |
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You are the person doing the assuming... |
CLANG |
Dec-12-09 10:50 PM |
#209 |
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There are most certainly unprovable beliefs in the world |
Oregone |
Dec-13-09 01:03 AM |
#221 |
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Was Obama's speech about Star Wars? |
bejamin wood |
Dec-12-09 02:52 PM |
#122 |
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His and Bush's use of the word evil simply obfuscate the |
snagglepuss |
Dec-12-09 10:37 AM |
#80 |
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If only the FACT that Al-Qaeda attacked the United States didn't get in the way of your claims |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 10:48 AM |
#85 |
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AQ is a smokescreen. Nothing the US is doing is eliminating AQ, in fact |
snagglepuss |
Dec-12-09 10:58 AM |
#90 |
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Agreed. |
JoeyT |
Dec-12-09 05:48 PM |
#166 |
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How many humans died in Iraq for a LIE? |
Fumesucker |
Dec-12-09 09:51 AM |
#49 |
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I did everything I could to stop the Iraq war, so speak for yourself |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 09:52 AM |
#51 |
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So citizens in a Democracy bear no responsibility for what their government does in their name? |
Fumesucker |
Dec-12-09 10:07 AM |
#65 |
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Using that logic the American health care system is evil and Obama |
snagglepuss |
Dec-12-09 10:24 AM |
#73 |
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Wrong. It's just that oppressive evil beyond a threshold of tolerance |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-12-09 02:57 PM |
#124 |
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The removal of Jewish settlers from Gaza by their own government |
varelse |
Dec-12-09 07:49 PM |
#191 |
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Straw man argument. OPer didn't say evil doesn't exist. |
clear eye |
Dec-13-09 01:53 AM |
#225 |
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There was an interesting thread on 'evil yesterday that was disappeared |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 09:06 AM |
#8 |
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Evil means demonic and that's religious. The right must love him more and more each day. Sigh. nt |
valerief |
Dec-12-09 09:06 AM |
#9 |
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Many here believe that religion *is* evil. |
berni_mccoy |
Dec-12-09 09:08 AM |
#13 |
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Oh, it is. For sure. nt |
valerief |
Dec-12-09 09:18 AM |
#20 |
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Do you actually believe that evil is only relative to good? |
slackmaster |
Dec-12-09 09:07 AM |
#10 |
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Evil "exists" in what sense? |
Silent3 |
Dec-12-09 10:01 AM |
#60 |
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why on earth |
Vattel |
Dec-12-09 05:35 PM |
#162 |
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I didn't say that I thought he/she thought that. |
Silent3 |
Dec-12-09 10:48 PM |
#208 |
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There is no universal definition of evil, and that is one problem with using it to justify war |
varelse |
Dec-12-09 04:04 PM |
#135 |
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thank you |
barbtries |
Dec-12-09 09:08 AM |
#14 |
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right |
bigtree |
Dec-12-09 09:10 AM |
#15 |
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Evil, Terror, Homeland.... Bush used these words in ways that make us wretch when we hear them. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-12-09 09:10 AM |
#16 |
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Evil also rests within the black heart of a populace in stark denial, choosing inaction |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 09:14 AM |
#18 |
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"Black heart" or just ignorant and susceptible to propaganda. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-12-09 09:19 AM |
#22 |
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No, many people know what's what by now. Laziness is easier than responsibility. |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 09:22 AM |
#25 |
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Agree with the second part, many but not most people are informed. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-12-09 10:12 AM |
#67 |
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Well Said. Since When Do We Let Evil Cretins Like Bush Control The Vocabulary? |
Paladin |
Dec-12-09 09:42 AM |
#45 |
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I'm with you on this |
malaise |
Dec-12-09 09:11 AM |
#17 |
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I believe in evil. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 09:15 AM |
#19 |
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good post. nt |
woo me with science |
Dec-12-09 09:24 AM |
#27 |
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President Obama never said people should be tried as evil |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 10:54 AM |
#88 |
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Exactly! |
dgibby |
Dec-12-09 11:30 AM |
#103 |
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I had the same reaction |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Dec-12-09 09:18 AM |
#21 |
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Like Everything Else Obama Is, It Was Just Rhetoric. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-12-09 09:29 AM |
#30 |
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wow. Ignore his accomplishments and its easy to just paint the |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 09:31 AM |
#33 |
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Please List His Accomplishments. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-12-09 09:32 AM |
#35 |
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... |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 09:44 AM |
#47 |
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Oh, Please. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-12-09 10:47 AM |
#84 |
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The liberal saint Dennis Kucinich wouldn't have gotten any more accomplished |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 11:53 AM |
#105 |
| -
If I may quote Toasterlad, |
salguine |
Dec-12-09 04:08 PM |
#138 |
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Boy, I wish I could live in this fantasyland where I can just ignore reality |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 04:50 PM |
#147 |
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The whole "it takes time" meme needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot, too. It's |
salguine |
Dec-12-09 05:18 PM |
#155 |
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and when everything is better, you'll be whimpering about why |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 06:50 PM |
#175 |
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WOOHOO!!! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Dec-12-09 06:59 PM |
#179 |
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Agree absolutely. This is LUNACY!! |
CLANG |
Dec-12-09 06:25 PM |
#173 |
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Lol! You actually list "announced his INTENTION to _____" several times |
Lorien |
Dec-12-09 03:35 PM |
#131 |
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I'm sorry he hasn't solved the worlds ills in 11 months. I guess you could name |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 04:51 PM |
#148 |
| -
Do you actually pay attention to anything that's going on, or do you just spend |
salguine |
Dec-12-09 05:21 PM |
#156 |
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all I've said is he hasn't solved everything in 11 months. How radical |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 06:51 PM |
#176 |
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and I guess you too could help debbie downer try to name |
CAG |
Dec-12-09 10:50 PM |
#210 |
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"Debbie Downer"? You debate/argue like a fucking six-year-old. No one is saying |
salguine |
Dec-12-09 11:51 PM |
#215 |
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You're the one who can't form a sentence without cussing up a storm, and then |
CAG |
Dec-13-09 07:51 AM |
#240 |
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I didn't say you were insane because you disagreed with me. I said you were insane because |
salguine |
Dec-13-09 12:12 PM |
#256 |
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...and still waiting to have a president named who did more than Obama |
CAG |
Dec-13-09 08:03 AM |
#241 |
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: |
salguine |
Dec-13-09 09:48 AM |
#250 |
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Thank you! Now, any others, or might I assume you think Obama is the |
CAG |
Dec-13-09 02:51 PM |
#258 |
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: |
salguine |
Dec-13-09 07:22 PM |
#261 |
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So I guess we're all done, then? You asked for one, I gave you two, you've been quiet... |
salguine |
Dec-14-09 10:37 AM |
#263 |
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In most cases, Evil is an emergent property of otherwise "acceptable" behaviors |
patrice |
Dec-12-09 09:32 AM |
#34 |
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K & R |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-12-09 09:33 AM |
#37 |
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Is criminal behavior moral and just a different choice? Is anything amoral? |
stray cat |
Dec-12-09 09:36 AM |
#39 |
| -
Why do we have laws? |
Oregone |
Dec-12-09 09:57 AM |
#55 |
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Was what was done on 9-11 evil? Was it wrong? Or was it just a different moral value |
stray cat |
Dec-12-09 09:40 AM |
#41 |
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A govt slaughtering its own civilians to green light their pre-arranged plans is evil |
Echo In Light |
Dec-12-09 10:02 AM |
#62 |
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neocon strategy |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Dec-12-09 06:10 PM |
#170 |
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Invoking morality to justify killing is as old and distasteful as Cain and Abel. K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-12-09 09:41 AM |
#43 |
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Exactly. It's already too late for that. But would always have been for the aggressor, |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-12-09 06:04 PM |
#169 |
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Did we fight Germany because they were evil? |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 09:42 AM |
#44 |
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I appreciate that you are starting to see that President Obama was right |
NJmaverick |
Dec-12-09 10:36 AM |
#79 |
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Please see post #19. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 10:52 AM |
#86 |
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You'll get aruments at the edges about this, but you are so very right. |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-12-09 09:50 AM |
#48 |
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You can't win against an invisible evil bogeyman. Obama ampted up the terra terra terra |
earth mom |
Dec-12-09 10:00 AM |
#57 |
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For starters, "evil" is an utterly subjective rationale for war. |
branders seine |
Dec-12-09 10:10 AM |
#66 |
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Just remember: "evil" spelled backwards is "live". Well in English anyways. |
elocs |
Dec-12-09 10:13 AM |
#68 |
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To paraphrase Forrest Gump, "Evil is as evil does." |
StarfarerBill |
Dec-12-09 10:43 AM |
#82 |
| -
Evil = Blowback |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-12-09 11:03 AM |
#94 |
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In most cases, that's true. |
StarfarerBill |
Dec-12-09 11:24 AM |
#101 |
| -
Get the beam out of our own eye |
GreenArrow |
Dec-12-09 08:47 PM |
#193 |
| -
My point exactly. |
StarfarerBill |
Dec-12-09 09:41 PM |
#203 |
| -
K&R |
Individualist |
Dec-12-09 11:02 AM |
#92 |
| -
so we are giving bush the word evil? |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 11:09 AM |
#95 |
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That's silly. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 11:12 AM |
#96 |
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well i think calling hitler evil falls in the context of fighting wars, no? |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 11:18 AM |
#99 |
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What are you talking about? |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 11:22 AM |
#100 |
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well, if i hear someone say "that hitler sure was was evil" |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 11:26 AM |
#102 |
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I guess you didn't read post #44. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 02:50 PM |
#120 |
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Politicians are usually full of shit, get used to it |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-12-09 11:14 AM |
#97 |
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evil quotes |
seeinfweggos |
Dec-12-09 11:42 AM |
#104 |
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+10000 |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-12-09 11:54 AM |
#106 |
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So believing there is evil in the world makes me a Fundy? WTF are you smoking? |
Odin2005 |
Dec-12-09 12:04 PM |
#107 |
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If that is what you got out of the OP, |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 02:47 PM |
#118 |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Dec-12-09 12:52 PM |
#108 |
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"It's weak to look two presidents, see them both use the word "evil," and then conclude that they're |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-12-09 01:03 PM |
#109 |
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Amen....hence my sig line. |
RagAss |
Dec-12-09 01:24 PM |
#110 |
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I like it! |
grahamhgreen |
Dec-12-09 03:08 PM |
#127 |
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Agreed 100%! K&R! |
Fearless |
Dec-12-09 01:55 PM |
#111 |
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Enables ends justifies the means type of thinking |
Mithreal |
Dec-12-09 02:21 PM |
#112 |
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Of course there is evil |
treestar |
Dec-12-09 02:42 PM |
#114 |
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Wasn't Al Qaeda evil in what they did on 911? |
Andronex |
Dec-13-09 12:55 AM |
#219 |
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"Evil" is a child's word, or a simpleton's. |
Lautremont |
Dec-12-09 02:46 PM |
#117 |
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Dec-12-09 02:48 PM |
#119 |
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K N R. Outstanding post. |
Bonn1997 |
Dec-12-09 02:53 PM |
#123 |
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Really dishonest post based on a hangup of yours |
HughMoran |
Dec-12-09 03:00 PM |
#125 |
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The Taliban and Al Qaeda are evil |
bluestateguy |
Dec-12-09 03:03 PM |
#126 |
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Dec-12-09 04:14 PM |
#140 |
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exactly |
Vattel |
Dec-12-09 05:33 PM |
#160 |
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Talk about "NIT PICKIN" bullshit! This is it! n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-12-09 03:10 PM |
#128 |
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Not to anyone capable of thinking and perceiving with any depth, it isn't. |
salguine |
Dec-12-09 04:10 PM |
#139 |
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Oh pleeeze! Depth?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
Fire1 |
Dec-12-09 04:34 PM |
#146 |
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The fiery logic of your response rocks me back on my heels. Uncle! Uncle! |
salguine |
Dec-12-09 05:23 PM |
#159 |
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See #194. It applies to you, too. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-12-09 09:37 PM |
#202 |
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I suspect that we, again, are not being told the real reasons for |
JDPriestly |
Dec-12-09 03:26 PM |
#130 |
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Well said |
varelse |
Dec-12-09 03:48 PM |
#132 |
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I agree... "Evil" makes me cringe, but... |
Syntheto |
Dec-12-09 03:58 PM |
#133 |
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"Who is evil is defined differently for each person"=you have a lot |
dcsmart |
Dec-12-09 04:00 PM |
#134 |
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i mean, come on |
d3m0l1sh3r |
Dec-12-09 04:07 PM |
#137 |
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I understand where he was going... |
upi402 |
Dec-12-09 04:18 PM |
#141 |
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Invoking evil is a cop-out, in my opinion. |
Hosnon |
Dec-12-09 04:23 PM |
#144 |
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Rrrrright. Because there's no evil in the world |
impik |
Dec-12-09 04:54 PM |
#150 |
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Good post...why do people think...... |
BlueJac |
Dec-12-09 04:59 PM |
#151 |
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So crashing fuel-laden 737s into the WTC was what?... Annoying? |
farmbo |
Dec-12-09 05:04 PM |
#152 |
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A specific and proveable reason: |
quaker bill |
Dec-12-09 05:06 PM |
#153 |
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Have you caught Richard Haas the head of the Council of Foreign Relations yet? |
truedelphi |
Dec-12-09 05:10 PM |
#154 |
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"Evil" is too relative a concept? Like some people think killing innocent children to make a point |
Honeycombe8 |
Dec-12-09 05:33 PM |
#161 |
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I said that I believe in evil. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 07:02 PM |
#181 |
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For thousands of years, baby girls were killed deliberately |
varelse |
Dec-12-09 07:18 PM |
#187 |
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No, it wasn't. In China that was a practice for a while, in secret, and was |
Honeycombe8 |
Dec-13-09 09:16 AM |
#245 |
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This wasn't just happening in China |
varelse |
Dec-13-09 10:19 AM |
#251 |
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Great post. |
theHandpuppet |
Dec-12-09 06:02 PM |
#168 |
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K&R. |
shadesofgray |
Dec-12-09 06:55 PM |
#178 |
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Those of you that are listing specific people and acts as evil |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-12-09 07:17 PM |
#186 |
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Me, too. George W. Obama. |
Peregrine Took |
Dec-12-09 07:49 PM |
#192 |
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People who quibble over the use and definition of words are special pleaders of the worst sort. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-12-09 08:55 PM |
#194 |
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Let's see what you have manged to do in your post: |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-13-09 05:05 AM |
#232 |
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Physician, heal thyself. You have predicated the thesis of an ENTIRE OP over the use of ONE word. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-13-09 04:57 PM |
#259 |
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Good point |
maryf |
Dec-12-09 09:09 PM |
#195 |
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They sure sound alike don't they? |
Upton |
Dec-12-09 09:10 PM |
#196 |
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they sound alike |
mls |
Dec-13-09 12:55 AM |
#218 |
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"Evil" and "moral" are too fuzzy--just tactics |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-12-09 09:22 PM |
#198 |
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Your last line nails it. +100 |
Duende azul |
Dec-12-09 11:11 PM |
#211 |
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Repeat this....... |
midnight |
Dec-12-09 09:29 PM |
#199 |
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"Evil" has replaced "Rule of law" |
BeHereNow |
Dec-12-09 09:35 PM |
#201 |
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+!0000000000000000 |
leftstreet |
Dec-12-09 11:21 PM |
#214 |
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What you said! nt |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-13-09 05:26 AM |
#234 |
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Evil exists. Capitalism and American foreign policy prove this. nt |
anonymous171 |
Dec-12-09 10:10 PM |
#204 |
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Saying there is "evil" in the world is one thing- |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Dec-13-09 12:07 AM |
#216 |
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He is now just a disapointment to me. |
parasearchers |
Dec-13-09 01:11 AM |
#222 |
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whadayaknow, dude got the same speach writers |
natrat |
Dec-13-09 01:17 AM |
#223 |
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I think bears are evil... |
Andronex |
Dec-13-09 01:43 AM |
#224 |
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Kicked and recommended because the truth hurts. n/t |
Stand and Fight |
Dec-13-09 03:22 AM |
#229 |
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'If Voting Changed Anything, They'd Make It Illegal' |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-13-09 03:43 AM |
#230 |
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Yeah, it sucked. Out of the many other words he could have used, he sounded like the shadow. |
Major Hogwash |
Dec-13-09 04:26 AM |
#231 |
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Pefectly stated. |
DeeDeeNY |
Dec-13-09 07:34 AM |
#238 |
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I don't know if there is "evil" in the larger metaphorical sense. But there are evil actions. |
DuaneBidoux |
Dec-13-09 08:50 AM |
#243 |
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And yet the plan now is to pay some of the Taliban |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-13-09 08:54 AM |
#244 |
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Well you can't justify long term military presence... |
Andronex |
Dec-13-09 10:32 AM |
#253 |
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Relax! Once all the Evil in the world is destroyed we will be at peace. |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-13-09 12:15 PM |
#257 |
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