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84. The far far right does not have anything near what it wants
So if you want to be as marginalized as they are -

They are angry we are getting out of Iraq. They are upset that any health reform could take place. They are upset that abortion is still legal. They don't have prayer in schools. They don't get to kick pregnant teens out of school and make them into pariahs. They have government regulation of business, which they don't believe should exist at all. Some of them are against the Federal Reserve.

They don't get their way on immigration (keep all brown people out). They don't get anywhere near what they want on foreign relations. They want us out of the UN! And to kick the UN out of New York!

They don't like the existence of public schools. No welfare, Social Security, Medicaid.
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  -DISSENT: We must take our nation back! Goldstein1984  Dec-10-09 01:30 PM   #0 
  - No thanks  WeDidIt   Dec-10-09 01:31 PM   #1 
  - You don't think the politicians owe more allegiance to the corporations then they do to us?  county worker   Dec-10-09 01:45 PM   #20 
  - I think radical people should stay out of politics  WeDidIt   Dec-10-09 01:46 PM   #23 
     - Yep, we are  Voltaire   Dec-10-09 01:52 PM   #26 
     - The only thing broken is the uncompromising attitudes  WeDidIt   Dec-10-09 01:55 PM   #27 
        - +1  anigbrowl   Dec-10-09 02:01 PM   #31 
        - An example please?  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:06 PM   #34 
           - Your own posts, to begin with.  anigbrowl   Dec-10-09 02:30 PM   #46 
              - You haven't addressed my point  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:49 PM   #53 
              - We are not going to agree about this  anigbrowl   Dec-10-09 03:56 PM   #86 
                 - Thanks! Great thread!!!  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:08 PM   #91 
              - That was pretty weak. n/t  leeroysphitz   Dec-10-09 04:22 PM   #93 
        - If our system was doing fine, we'd already have a real public option  derby378   Dec-10-09 04:06 PM   #90 
        - Theres a battle outside and it's raging.. it will soon rattle your windows  lib2DaBone   Dec-10-09 09:18 PM   #145 
        - Our system isn't fine.  intheflow   Dec-11-09 12:16 AM   #170 
     - Radicals are a much needed minority.  county worker   Dec-10-09 02:16 PM   #40 
     - IF they are willing to compromise, fine  WeDidIt   Dec-10-09 02:22 PM   #43 
        - Look, if they compromise they wouldn't be radical and they would be useless to us.  county worker   Dec-10-09 02:27 PM   #45 
        - Yeah, that's working out real well for the GOP  anigbrowl   Dec-10-09 02:42 PM   #52 
        - "we are in fact endorsing their behavior and thinking patterns"  county worker   Dec-10-09 02:53 PM   #54 
        - The far far right does not have anything near what it wants  treestar   Dec-10-09 03:52 PM   #84 
           - That's all true, but...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:18 PM   #92 
              - How can you separate the voters out?  treestar   Dec-10-09 04:22 PM   #94 
                 - Activists are heard when voters are not  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:40 PM   #101 
        - I think I love you  kctim   Dec-10-09 03:06 PM   #61 
           - Well if you are a radical I think you have done some good for me so the feeling could be mutual  county worker   Dec-10-09 04:38 PM   #100 
              - My bad  kctim   Dec-10-09 04:51 PM   #103 
                 - No worries...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:23 PM   #109 
        - They do not have any powers of persuasion  treestar   Dec-10-09 03:48 PM   #82 
           - Um its hard to get the 6 when you started at 5  Chisox08   Dec-11-09 12:22 AM   #172 
        - The process of ensuring mediocrity?  leeroysphitz   Dec-10-09 04:25 PM   #97 
        - Is there anything you would not compromise over?  Toots   Dec-11-09 08:30 AM   #178 
     - Passive people should stay out of politics...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:05 PM   #60 
     - Should we compromise on top of compromise on top of compromise?  Xicano   Dec-10-09 03:42 PM   #75 
     - Exactly  treestar   Dec-10-09 03:45 PM   #81 
     - I'm sorry, but that's not true  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:24 PM   #96 
     - Oh Brother.. like what's left of the Dems? Obama's Promise?  lib2DaBone   Dec-10-09 08:56 PM   #136 
     - Its compromsing when the other side is negotaiting in good faith  Chisox08   Dec-11-09 12:17 AM   #171 
     - What could be less Republican than progress?  Goldstein1984   Dec-11-09 12:29 AM   #173 
     - I'd hate to see the center-Left continue to kowtow to Wall St and...  WhaTHellsgoingonhere   Dec-11-09 08:21 AM   #177 
     - But without radicals, there would be little need for compromise  progressoid   Dec-11-09 10:19 AM   #184 
     - I think opportunists, I mean centrists, should be purged, uh, I mean "stay out of politics"  readmoreoften   Dec-12-09 03:48 PM   #202 
  - Can I ask you to elaborate?  Xicano   Dec-10-09 03:36 PM   #72 
  - Spoken like a true corporatist.  alarimer   Dec-10-09 06:01 PM   #116 
  - Kucinich and Sanders  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 06:17 PM   #118 
  - Moving in the right direction?  bvar22   Dec-10-09 07:47 PM   #129 
     - Now we're on a roll!  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 08:17 PM   #130 
  - That will help the economy! Its like hijacking the titanic after it hit ice  stray cat   Dec-10-09 01:31 PM   #2 
  - So you think the nation is like the Titanic?  rfranklin   Dec-10-09 01:35 PM   #10 
     - Do you think its safely afloat and full steaming ahead?  stray cat   Dec-10-09 01:58 PM   #29 
        - It's a lot like the Titanic  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:15 PM   #38 
  - There's alot of things more American than dissent.  FarLeftFist   Dec-10-09 01:32 PM   #3 
  - Given such a densely propagandized, de-politicized populace, I'd suggest united we fall  Echo In Light   Dec-10-09 01:34 PM   #8 
  - Exactly!  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:18 PM   #66 
  - Then we are falling...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 01:40 PM   #13 
  - Back to what?  leftstreet   Dec-10-09 01:32 PM   #4 
  - Who would've thought we'd still be saying this?!  Shagbark Hickory   Dec-10-09 01:32 PM   #5 
  - I think people are pretty confident....  FarLeftFist   Dec-10-09 01:34 PM   #9 
     - They improved a lot for wall street and the health insurance companies.  Shagbark Hickory   Dec-10-09 01:42 PM   #17 
     - Which people?...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:01 PM   #58 
  - After 8 years of Bush/Cheney  countingbluecars   Dec-10-09 01:33 PM   #6 
  - Still have the Patriot Act which is UnAmerican as you can get...  rfranklin   Dec-10-09 01:36 PM   #12 
  - Yet other things are getting better.  countingbluecars   Dec-10-09 01:42 PM   #16 
     - I'm not talking about overthrowing the government...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:35 PM   #49 
  - like when Obama was campaigning he said it's going to take awhile  bdamomma   Dec-10-09 02:14 PM   #37 
     - It will take less time if...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:38 PM   #50 
        - I still think Class Wars plays a big part of what's going on.  bdamomma   Dec-10-09 02:42 PM   #51 
           - Wake up sheople!!  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:12 PM   #65 
  - Teabag much? NT  NYCGirl   Dec-10-09 01:34 PM   #7 
  - The teabaggers have the right idea...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 01:42 PM   #14 
     - No, they don't. They are comic relief. NT  NYCGirl   Dec-10-09 01:43 PM   #18 
     - That's the best you could say about them?  FarLeftFist   Dec-10-09 01:48 PM   #24 
     - And so were the...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:31 PM   #47 
        - Where your logic falls apart is that the groups you listed had more going for them than just "being  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-10-09 03:06 PM   #62 
           - The teabaggers are nut cases, but...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:24 PM   #67 
     - If you think the teabaggers have the right idea, I think  MineralMan   Dec-10-09 03:07 PM   #63 
        - BEING HEARD is the right idea...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:28 PM   #68 
           - You're the one tossing around the label, "teabagger," not me.  MineralMan   Dec-10-09 03:38 PM   #73 
              - Been following DU for months  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:44 PM   #102 
                 - You wrote, in the title of a post,  MineralMan   Dec-10-09 06:56 PM   #126 
                    - I responded in Post #14 to Post #7  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 08:32 PM   #131 
                       - Thom Hartmann made a similar point on his show yesterday  AndrewP   Dec-11-09 07:43 AM   #176 
  - "Oligarchy"  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 01:35 PM   #11 
  - Same reason RWers use "fascism" & "censorship" & "projection;"  Echo In Light   Dec-10-09 01:43 PM   #19 
  - Wrong side of the political fence  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 01:46 PM   #22 
  - Then leftbagger. No difference really.  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 03:10 PM   #64 
     - "Leftbagger"??? No wonder where we are where we are...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:34 PM   #69 
        - LOL! You have nothing in common with those movements.  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 03:43 PM   #78 
           - You have a lot to learn  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:54 PM   #104 
              - .  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 05:18 PM   #106 
                 - Funny. Deep as a cookie sheet, but funny.  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 08:38 PM   #132 
                    - We haven't been underground since before I came here.  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 08:52 PM   #134 
                       - We'll work on that.  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:04 PM   #139 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-09 09:08 PM   #141 
                             - What happens happens. I'm not a conformist.  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:17 PM   #144 
                                - I think you are mistaking me for someone  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 09:27 PM   #148 
                                   - Or just civil...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:36 PM   #149 
                                      - I'll help you run up your post count  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-10-09 09:41 PM   #150 
                                      - Thanks, but I'll do this the right way or not at all...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:56 PM   #152 
                                         - Sorry I went to bed instead.  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-11-09 07:19 AM   #175 
                                            - Is this the part where we both say  Goldstein1984   Dec-11-09 09:36 AM   #180 
                                               - Then stop acting like a teabagger it's not that hard.  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-11-09 10:17 AM   #183 
                                               - What do you think a teabagger is?  Goldstein1984   Dec-11-09 12:33 PM   #186 
                                      - ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 09:52 PM   #151 
                                         - Thanks, it's great to be here.  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:01 PM   #153 
                                            - You should feel DEEPLY honored by the numbers of unrec's you have received...  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 10:06 PM   #154 
                                               - Remember, I'm a "Noob"  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:25 PM   #155 
                                                  - Go to the GD page where threads are listed by title.  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 10:33 PM   #156 
                                                  - I'm flattered.  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:47 PM   #159 
                                                  - Stick around, not all of us are rabbits. They just shreik more.  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 10:49 PM   #161 
                                                  - Oh...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:54 PM   #164 
                                                  - Yeah, they don't much like it when you stick sharp sticks down the hole...  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 11:32 PM   #166 
                                                  - I'm still enjoying the give and take  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 11:56 PM   #168 
  - He is the oligarchy's stalking horse  varelse   Dec-12-09 02:52 PM   #198 
  - Travel back in time and post this somewhere in the year 2000  azmouse   Dec-10-09 01:42 PM   #15 
  - Sigh  blogslut   Dec-10-09 01:45 PM   #21 
  - Should we wait until we are in that boat to act?  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 01:57 PM   #28 
     - There are numerous things you can do  blogslut   Dec-10-09 02:58 PM   #56 
     - If you're comfortable, and others are not, then you have work to  MineralMan   Dec-10-09 03:42 PM   #76 
        - Yes, as I wrote in another post...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 06:44 PM   #124 
  - Ummm...You have mistaken DU for a teabagger site or something. nt  Kahuna   Dec-10-09 01:51 PM   #25 
  - Actually, I was thinking...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:02 PM   #32 
  - You can say that again.  timeforpeace   Dec-10-09 02:17 PM   #41 
  - Well, that was certainly worth repeating...  MineralMan   Dec-10-09 03:39 PM   #74 
  - Actually, I was thinking...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:02 PM   #33 
     - Yes, Democratic politics,reform,and change....  FarLeftFist   Dec-10-09 02:10 PM   #35 
     - "Anarchist"???  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:22 PM   #42 
        - Capital when speaking of the party as opposed to speaking of democracy  FarLeftFist   Dec-10-09 02:32 PM   #48 
           - Violence??? From my post...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:57 PM   #55 
     - You want to discuss teabagger activity. Don't try to change it now. nt  Kahuna   Dec-10-09 03:57 PM   #87 
        - Look at Post #7-First mention of teabaggers wasn't me, and...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:34 PM   #112 
  - I wish I had a buck for every time this screed was posted. n/t  cali   Dec-10-09 02:01 PM   #30 
  - I'd just be happy if...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:11 PM   #36 
  - "There is nothing more American than dissent."  Nuclear Unicorn   Dec-10-09 02:16 PM   #39 
  - Please do!...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 02:23 PM   #44 
  - What is betrayal in a democracy?  HuckleB   Dec-10-09 02:58 PM   #57 
  - Betrayal is...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:36 PM   #70 
  - Do you not get how meaningless those vague statements are to an actual discussion?  HuckleB   Dec-10-09 03:52 PM   #85 
     - I thought they were obvious, but if you want specifics...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:21 PM   #107 
        - In other words, you think everyone buys that out-of-context propaganda?  HuckleB   Dec-10-09 08:55 PM   #135 
           - Evidently, it means  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:12 PM   #143 
              - You're offering mere opinion.  HuckleB   Dec-12-09 08:38 PM   #204 
  - Betrayal is...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:36 PM   #71 
  - I see too many people talking about "America" and not "the United States"  haele   Dec-10-09 03:04 PM   #59 
  - WOW! That's well put...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:44 PM   #80 
     - Understood, I was just rambling. It's difficult to determine what the path out is  haele   Dec-10-09 06:17 PM   #117 
        - Rambling is good  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 06:24 PM   #120 
  - do what the wealthy do--find choke points and bottlenecks, where we have the power and they are  yurbud   Dec-10-09 03:42 PM   #77 
  - Disaster Capitalism--The Shock Doctrine  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 03:49 PM   #83 
     - they potentially had a shock with subprime crisis, but instead of putting a pillow over their face  yurbud   Dec-10-09 04:30 PM   #98 
        - Obama is better than the alternative...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:28 PM   #110 
           - that is damning him with extremely faint praise, saying he is better our worst president ever  yurbud   Dec-10-09 09:11 PM   #142 
              - Best president in my lifetime, and I voted for him, but...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:21 PM   #146 
                 - Jimmy Carter was better on foreign policy and LBJ on domestic  yurbud   Dec-10-09 10:41 PM   #158 
                    - I think so too...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:49 PM   #160 
                       - the mistake in Iran was in 1953. the blowback just happened to come on carter's watch  yurbud   Dec-10-09 10:53 PM   #163 
                          - Tangled webs  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:58 PM   #165 
  - If it's your interest, I'm sure THAT special interest is OK  treestar   Dec-10-09 03:43 PM   #79 
  - My special interest is...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:00 PM   #88 
     - Those are a bit vague  treestar   Dec-10-09 04:24 PM   #95 
        - That's the problem...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 04:35 PM   #99 
  - Who the fuck is un-rec'ing this thread? Did Karl make a call? Welcome to DU btw.  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 04:02 PM   #89 
  - Thanks. That's become apparent  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:05 PM   #105 
     - Bottom line my friend... and you already know this,  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 05:23 PM   #108 
  - I don't know what "taking our nation back" even means.  Blue-Jay   Dec-10-09 05:30 PM   #111 
  - "Taking back" is just...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:43 PM   #113 
     - Fair enough. I don't think we disagree.  Blue-Jay   Dec-10-09 05:59 PM   #115 
        - I understand. I completely forgot who...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 06:35 PM   #122 
           - See? This is what happens when thoughtful people bother to talk rationally.  Blue-Jay   Dec-10-09 07:04 PM   #127 
  - This has been fantastic!  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 05:57 PM   #114 
  - Damn, I think I'm in love.  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 06:20 PM   #119 
     - Seriously, this has been a pleasure. Thanks!  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 06:28 PM   #121 
        - So will my husband...  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 06:43 PM   #123 
  - We need DC to come to a halt- day after day after day- There is action planned!  PuraVidaDreamin   Dec-10-09 06:52 PM   #125 
  - It warms my heart. Finally, a little "underground" in the DU  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 08:59 PM   #137 
  - Yea, YOU! FYi,DC rallies tomorrow..  gimama   Dec-11-09 09:05 PM   #190 
     - would LOVE to be there  PuraVidaDreamin   Dec-12-09 03:41 AM   #196 
        - I HOPE(!)  gimama   Dec-12-09 08:07 PM   #203 
  - Hey. It works. I recced you back UP to an even Zero.  bvar22   Dec-10-09 07:39 PM   #128 
  - That's what I'm talking about  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 08:52 PM   #133 
  - I don't envy or covet ANY thing..  gimama   Dec-11-09 09:15 PM   #191 
  - K & R,,,,,,,,,  winyanstaz   Dec-10-09 09:01 PM   #138 
  - Recommended, although I don't agree with it entirely.  TexasObserver   Dec-10-09 09:06 PM   #140 
  - Thanks Tex. I'm educated as a biologist and engineer...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 09:26 PM   #147 
  - Kicking for the late night crowd.  BeHereNow   Dec-10-09 10:40 PM   #157 
  - I'm having a blast...  Goldstein1984   Dec-10-09 10:51 PM   #162 
     - Yeah, You are..Goood Work!  gimama   Dec-11-09 08:54 PM   #189 
  - Kick  Duende azul   Dec-10-09 11:45 PM   #167 
  - You sound like a teabagger  JamesA1102   Dec-11-09 12:09 AM   #169 
  - Teabagger? What's with "Teabagger"  Goldstein1984   Dec-11-09 12:39 AM   #174 
     - That was the point of my post.  JamesA1102   Dec-11-09 09:31 AM   #179 
        - And yet  Goldstein1984   Dec-11-09 09:41 AM   #181 
           - Not pounced upon.  JamesA1102   Dec-11-09 11:55 AM   #185 
              - Yes "pounced upon" by the usual suspects.  BeHereNow   Dec-11-09 09:17 PM   #192 
                 - "Usual Suspects"????  JamesA1102   Dec-11-09 11:46 PM   #193 
                    - No, just observant of patterns. n/t  BeHereNow   Dec-11-09 11:49 PM   #194 
                       - Nice dodge nt.  JamesA1102   Dec-12-09 12:59 AM   #195 
                          - Nice try.  BeHereNow   Dec-12-09 01:58 PM   #197 
  - Off to greatest with you! nt  raccoon   Dec-11-09 09:42 AM   #182 
  - fuck hunger strikes. we hurt THEM by not participating in their system  dusmcj   Dec-11-09 12:45 PM   #187 
  - That's it in a nutshell  Goldstein1984   Dec-11-09 08:09 PM   #188 
     - got it. but if you've got the discipline, do it privately; the pissants would crow you were 'weak'  dusmcj   Dec-12-09 10:00 PM   #205 
  - I already did in 2008. My President is doing fine now.  WonderGrunion   Dec-12-09 03:39 PM   #199 
     - Which bank do you own?  upi402   Dec-12-09 03:42 PM   #200 
        - Funny you should ask. I belong to a credit union.  WonderGrunion   Dec-12-09 03:44 PM   #201 
           - No free ride  Goldstein1984   Dec-13-09 02:00 AM   #206 
 

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