| 106. DU posters who condemn Baldwin are hypocrites. This is nothing but a junk story! |
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Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 05:22 PM by saracat
My own parents yelled at me far worse than Baldwin and used more colorful language! Is it now a "crime" to lose your temper with your kid?/ Jimiony Christmas.Give the man a break.I am so thrilled that so many on DU are perfect.Last week I learned how many "always " wear seat belts and have "NEVER" forgotten to buckle up like that arch criminal Corzine .Now I see many Duers are "perfect" parents who have "never" yelled at their kids or lost their tempers.We already know that the men would "Never " spend " &200 for a haircut. Frankly, I am stunned.I had no idea so many DUers were so perfect and thus able to be "judgmental " with equanimity! I feel so worthless.I hang my head in shame at my lack of perfection.
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| -Alec Baldwin is a hypocrite |
pnwmom |
Apr-20-07 11:30 PM |
#0 |
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Utterly embarrassing. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Apr-20-07 11:34 PM |
#1 |
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You know, sometimes my daughter forgets to turn on her phone |
K8-EEE |
Apr-21-07 01:39 AM |
#39 |
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And I bet there's something else you wouldn't do. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 04:05 AM |
#43 |
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I admire him as an actor and I agree with his politics |
K8-EEE |
Apr-21-07 12:28 PM |
#89 |
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Parental alienation is very real. |
flying_monkeys |
Apr-20-07 11:40 PM |
#2 |
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How do we know when and how that voicemail was passed on? |
pnwmom |
Apr-20-07 11:46 PM |
#4 |
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Read the motion filed by Baldwin's lawyer |
CookCountyResident |
Apr-21-07 12:10 AM |
#17 |
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Who says the voicemail wasn't forwarded to someone by the 11 year old |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:08 AM |
#31 |
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Riiight. |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 04:28 AM |
#49 |
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It's quite possible a girl could go to her friend, or her friend's mother, |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 04:49 AM |
#55 |
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Oh come on. |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:23 AM |
#67 |
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Right. |
CookCountyResident |
Apr-21-07 12:07 AM |
#15 |
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"The child does not benefit from this at all..." Oh yes she does. Now |
AJ9000 |
Apr-21-07 12:13 AM |
#18 |
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Baldwin was on Letterman making fun of Ireland right before he called her. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:17 AM |
#34 |
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There's no way she could have seen the show |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-21-07 04:03 AM |
#42 |
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Who says she watched it on real time? Someone could have taped it |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 04:08 AM |
#44 |
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the assertion |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-21-07 04:09 AM |
#45 |
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That's not the way I read the article. Yes, he had taped it before a live |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 04:16 AM |
#46 |
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Loving fathers |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-21-07 04:21 AM |
#48 |
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He spent two and a half minutes screaming threats and profanity at her. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 04:41 AM |
#52 |
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oh please |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-21-07 04:44 AM |
#53 |
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Why do you keep minimizing this? That wasn't the worst thing he said, it's |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 04:54 AM |
#56 |
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Cosby's career |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-21-07 04:59 AM |
#57 |
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Guess what? The kids on the TV show were not Cosby's real kids!!!!! |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:11 AM |
#59 |
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No |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-21-07 05:23 AM |
#62 |
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An eleven year old has friends. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:28 AM |
#63 |
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I think folks need to be reminded of the Occam's Razor theory. |
Clark2008 |
Apr-21-07 07:47 AM |
#73 |
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Did you listen to the whole tirade? Or just read a couple of phrases? |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 08:12 AM |
#74 |
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Agree and I was subjected too some SERIOUS! verbal, mental and physical abuse. |
Blue State Native |
Apr-21-07 10:11 AM |
#83 |
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You didn't listen to the audiotape then. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:08 PM |
#107 |
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DING DING DING! MonkeyFunk, you're our grand prize winner! |
rocknation |
Apr-21-07 05:22 PM |
#112 |
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I tend to agree with you |
ncabot22 |
Apr-21-07 08:12 PM |
#157 |
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who says she didn't give it to the media herself? |
butterfly77 |
Apr-21-07 05:40 PM |
#120 |
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BINGO! The child will know that Daddy's behavior is |
Triana |
Apr-21-07 04:51 PM |
#103 |
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I agree. Everything is about HIM. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:23 PM |
#113 |
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The child could have forwarded this on to one of her friends before |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:11 AM |
#32 |
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They're both overaged children doing what divorced people often do |
melody |
Apr-20-07 11:46 PM |
#3 |
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She'll need it. But Basinger can't make Baldwin behave |
pnwmom |
Apr-20-07 11:50 PM |
#6 |
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HE is absolutely the sole owner... |
Triana |
Apr-21-07 04:54 PM |
#104 |
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And from what I've read.. |
zidzi |
Apr-21-07 04:49 PM |
#102 |
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They may very well have joint custody but, in any case, that's not a |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:26 PM |
#115 |
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We need to call Alec's rant what it was: Child abuse (of the emotional variety.) |
AJ9000 |
Apr-20-07 11:47 PM |
#5 |
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I think it is. Like a lot of narcissists, he can be charming when |
pnwmom |
Apr-20-07 11:53 PM |
#8 |
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Well, we don't really know the whole story |
melody |
Apr-21-07 12:15 AM |
#19 |
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"It could seem very different, in context." There is no context to justify |
AJ9000 |
Apr-21-07 12:33 AM |
#21 |
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You've nailed him -- the "all about me." There is no context |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 12:40 AM |
#23 |
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Courts frequently set up schedules for calling |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 04:32 AM |
#50 |
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Can you give an instance of one person going to jail for missing a phone call like this? |
electron_blue |
Apr-21-07 08:33 AM |
#77 |
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No, they don't send dads to jail for missing phone visitation |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 02:48 PM |
#91 |
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odd that isn't the case in my divorce situation. No way would jail be involved after a nonshceduled |
electron_blue |
Apr-21-07 03:05 PM |
#92 |
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maybe your ex is nicer than others |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 03:33 PM |
#94 |
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You seem to have misunderstood |
electron_blue |
Apr-21-07 04:20 PM |
#95 |
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No, you couldn't get him thrown in jail for missing a scheduled visitation |
Mabus |
Apr-21-07 06:17 PM |
#131 |
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Great post. n/t |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 07:26 PM |
#151 |
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Been there. |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:34 PM |
#134 |
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I second that sentiment |
Infomaniac |
Apr-21-07 07:16 PM |
#147 |
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One of the worst things is the lawyers! |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 07:22 PM |
#149 |
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She's gone through a half dozen lawyers |
Infomaniac |
Apr-21-07 07:59 PM |
#155 |
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Restraining orders are put in place when there has been spousal abuse. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:12 PM |
#109 |
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No, that's not true |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 07:17 PM |
#148 |
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Difference between TRO and RO |
Mabus |
Apr-23-07 09:35 AM |
#204 |
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No divorced person I've ever heard of went to jail for missing a call. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:10 PM |
#108 |
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Something I didn't know at first -- the context |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:31 AM |
#37 |
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Someone upthread said she couldn't have seen the show before he called her |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 04:40 AM |
#51 |
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Someone upthread hasn't proved anything. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:04 AM |
#58 |
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You haven't proved anything, either |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:17 AM |
#65 |
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The point is that the rage was misdirected. There is no excuse for that. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 07:21 AM |
#70 |
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I agree that it is up to Basinger |
CookCountyResident |
Apr-21-07 08:52 AM |
#79 |
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Let me tell you how this works |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 02:36 PM |
#90 |
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Did you hear Baldwin whine that Ireland would never treat her mother |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:20 PM |
#110 |
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Are you divorced? |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:35 PM |
#135 |
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No, I'm not divorced, but I've gone through |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 06:42 PM |
#136 |
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Thank you. |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:47 PM |
#139 |
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Of course it's clear she has a better relationship with her mom |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:45 PM |
#138 |
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Suppose you are right, and Basinger is bad-mouthing him. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 06:50 PM |
#141 |
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If I come up to you and start poking you in the chest over and over... |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 06:57 PM |
#145 |
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From both sides, but more from the father |
marshall |
Apr-23-07 12:25 PM |
# |
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well said |
nini |
Apr-21-07 06:22 PM |
#133 |
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you think letterman fed exed her a tape? LOL. oh wait, that would take a whole day... |
bettyellen |
Apr-21-07 08:36 PM |
#160 |
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No, I don't. She could have set the VCR herself if she didn't |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:29 AM |
#182 |
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I've been where the child is at when my parents divorced |
marshall |
Apr-23-07 12:21 PM |
#205 |
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The child of two actors? Don't bet on it. |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-21-07 07:33 AM |
#72 |
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Counter example: Christopher Reeve. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 08:16 AM |
#75 |
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There are exceptions, of course. James Earl Jones would be another. |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-21-07 08:43 AM |
#78 |
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Exactly! It's child abuse - and IMO that should be made public... |
Triana |
Apr-21-07 04:55 PM |
#105 |
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regardless of the circumstances? hmmmmm |
nini |
Apr-21-07 06:21 PM |
#132 |
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Suppose you are right and it's Basinger's fault that they're alienated. |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 02:03 AM |
#168 |
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Parental Alienation is not based on what he did wrong here |
nini |
Apr-22-07 12:16 PM |
#200 |
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probably |
HughMoran |
Apr-20-07 11:52 PM |
#7 |
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Hopefully most parents aren't as mean or narcissistic as this guy. |
pnwmom |
Apr-20-07 11:55 PM |
#10 |
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Be careful about judging a snapshot. |
dbonds |
Apr-20-07 11:54 PM |
#9 |
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It wasn't just a little loss of control. It was an extended temper tantrum, |
pnwmom |
Apr-20-07 11:58 PM |
#11 |
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It WAS supposed to be private business |
CookCountyResident |
Apr-21-07 09:55 AM |
#80 |
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Yeah, child abuse is supposed to be private, right? |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:30 PM |
#116 |
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My thoughts, too. No excuse whatsoever for the verbal abuse he heaped |
indie_ana_500 |
Apr-21-07 12:00 AM |
#12 |
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Anyone who had access to the voicemail could have done it, |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 12:43 AM |
#24 |
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Those were my thoughts, too. That the girl and some of her friends... |
indie_ana_500 |
Apr-21-07 12:53 AM |
#27 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-21-07 12:02 AM |
#13 |
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That sounds weirdly like a threat. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 12:44 AM |
#25 |
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If you've done that you're an ignorant prick too. What's the rest of that |
AJ9000 |
Apr-21-07 12:44 AM |
#26 |
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Anger comes from feeling hurt |
Quixote1818 |
Apr-21-07 12:05 AM |
#14 |
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It's clear to me that Baldwin's EGO was wounded, |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:05 AM |
#30 |
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I think this is more about fear but I am not Alec Baldwin |
Quixote1818 |
Apr-21-07 01:38 AM |
#38 |
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If he had an ounce of real sensitivity, he wouldn't have made fun of her |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 03:59 AM |
#41 |
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Did I miss something? |
Quixote1818 |
Apr-21-07 11:49 AM |
#86 |
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"The whole audience and David Letterman laughed" -- at Baldwin's |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:32 PM |
#117 |
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Granted he ranted |
vanboggie |
Apr-21-07 12:07 AM |
#16 |
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That's a bunch of BS. That was verbal abuse. Period. HE needs straitening out. |
AJ9000 |
Apr-21-07 12:40 AM |
#22 |
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See post 47 |
vanboggie |
Apr-21-07 06:51 PM |
#142 |
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First he goes on Letterman and makes fun of how his young daughter dances. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:22 AM |
#35 |
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Agreed |
magellan |
Apr-21-07 12:30 AM |
#20 |
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And to make matters worse, you know what he was doing before the call? |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 01:25 AM |
#36 |
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Maybe that's why she didn't answer? Man this pisses me off, |
AJ9000 |
Apr-21-07 01:42 AM |
#40 |
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Alec Baldwin defenders are hypocrits |
gravity |
Apr-21-07 12:55 AM |
#28 |
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You nailed it Gravity. Well said. nm |
AJ9000 |
Apr-21-07 12:58 AM |
#29 |
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Exactly. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Apr-21-07 01:13 AM |
#33 |
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Damn right. |
spoony |
Apr-21-07 04:23 PM |
#97 |
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You have no idea what these people have been through |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 04:19 AM |
#47 |
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And you, apparently, |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:12 AM |
#60 |
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I've been thrown over kitchen tables |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 06:22 AM |
#66 |
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I'm sorry about what you've gone through. But your situation is different. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 07:14 AM |
#69 |
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The call was bad. He shouldn't have done it. |
demobabe |
Apr-21-07 07:56 PM |
#154 |
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What about his little performace a few hours earlier on Letterman? |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 02:05 AM |
#169 |
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Gawd, get off it already |
demobabe |
Apr-22-07 02:39 AM |
#174 |
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B.S. She could have easily seen it. Nobody knows the timing of all this |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:07 AM |
#177 |
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Someone else showed the timing. |
demobabe |
Apr-22-07 04:19 AM |
#179 |
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We don't know who put the tape out. It could have been the girl, |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:27 AM |
#181 |
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Doesn't matter WHO released it |
demobabe |
Apr-22-07 07:52 PM |
#203 |
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My story ended happier than your sons |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-21-07 08:48 PM |
#162 |
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Man, I'm sorry to hear that |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 08:58 PM |
#164 |
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Wah Wah Wah! n/t |
lse7581011 |
Apr-21-07 03:08 PM |
#93 |
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Yeah |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 07:27 PM |
#152 |
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Exactly |
vanboggie |
Apr-21-07 06:48 PM |
#140 |
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Yep |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 08:52 PM |
#163 |
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Will do... |
vanboggie |
Apr-22-07 09:21 AM |
#194 |
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I do know what can happen. |
Infomaniac |
Apr-21-07 08:19 PM |
#159 |
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Thanks |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 08:42 PM |
#161 |
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i heard a clip of baldwin's message on the radio friday |
orleans |
Apr-21-07 04:47 AM |
#54 |
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I bet your friend didn't sound as vicious, did he? |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:16 AM |
#61 |
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Thanks for bringing this up |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 06:34 AM |
#68 |
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short version: Alec Baldwin is Hitler! |
Checkstub |
Apr-21-07 05:44 AM |
#64 |
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Well he's lost my vote! |
JNelson6563 |
Apr-21-07 07:28 AM |
#71 |
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I'm Sure His Book Will Be Very Enlightening |
Crisco |
Apr-21-07 08:27 AM |
#76 |
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I think she was a rude thoughtless pig. eom |
donco6 |
Apr-21-07 09:59 AM |
#81 |
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Reminds me of a friend's comment |
edhopper |
Apr-21-07 10:08 AM |
#82 |
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Here's my thought: |
donco6 |
Apr-21-07 10:13 AM |
#84 |
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Now there's the sanest comment I've seen all day! |
KzooDem |
Apr-21-07 12:25 PM |
#88 |
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Ding ding ding! Finally. |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-21-07 04:36 PM |
#99 |
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It's important to me that so many people here are unable |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:52 PM |
#126 |
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Well, here's to you ending abuse. One internet message at a time. |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-21-07 06:52 PM |
#143 |
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Abusers take advantage of our respect for their privacy |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:37 PM |
#119 |
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This was clearly verbal abuse and it concerns me that so many people |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:35 PM |
#118 |
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How long are you going to keep this up? |
symbolman |
Apr-21-07 07:38 PM |
#153 |
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And when are you going to quit? I see, he's a LIBERAL, |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 02:07 AM |
#170 |
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Define Liberal |
symbolman |
Apr-22-07 02:45 AM |
#175 |
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Why should I define it? You were the one who said he was a liberal, |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:05 AM |
#176 |
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I think you have me mixed up with someone else now |
symbolman |
Apr-22-07 04:12 AM |
#178 |
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Maybe you ought to read your own posts before you send them. |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:23 AM |
#180 |
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Oh gee |
symbolman |
Apr-22-07 04:34 AM |
#183 |
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So there are only two kinds of parents, in your view? |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:44 AM |
#185 |
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Hopeful? |
symbolman |
Apr-22-07 04:47 AM |
#187 |
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Why are you defending him endlessly? |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 05:13 AM |
#188 |
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Yeah it is |
symbolman |
Apr-22-07 05:37 AM |
#191 |
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Right..... |
Jade Fox |
Apr-21-07 10:16 AM |
#85 |
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Good memory. |
donco6 |
Apr-21-07 11:54 AM |
#87 |
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Alec Baldwin IS A RICH SPOILED WHITE BOY |
spoony |
Apr-21-07 04:28 PM |
#98 |
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Yeah, but he's a Democrat, like Nifong, |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:43 PM |
#122 |
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Based on what? |
Jade Fox |
Apr-22-07 09:27 AM |
#195 |
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There is proof that he made the abusive phone call. And it's abusive no |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:41 PM |
#121 |
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Once again, you are.... |
Jade Fox |
Apr-22-07 09:29 AM |
#196 |
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Let me ask you something about your "proof" |
merh |
Apr-22-07 01:31 PM |
#201 |
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Good to see someone call it like it is k and r |
spoony |
Apr-21-07 04:21 PM |
#96 |
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again - this issue is none of our business |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-21-07 04:37 PM |
#100 |
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Child abuse is always best kept behind closed doors. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:44 PM |
#123 |
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careful you don't fall off your soapbox |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-21-07 06:07 PM |
#129 |
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NO. Alec Baldwin is a Narcissist and an Abuser |
Triana |
Apr-21-07 04:45 PM |
#101 |
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That's what it looks like to me too... |
polichick |
Apr-21-07 05:24 PM |
#114 |
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BINGO!!! |
Triana |
Apr-21-07 10:31 PM |
#165 |
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Welcome to DU, polichick! |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 02:09 AM |
#171 |
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Good, informative post, Triana. Thanks. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:46 PM |
#124 |
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Send 'em the links!!! |
Triana |
Apr-21-07 10:32 PM |
#166 |
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DU posters who condemn Baldwin are hypocrites. This is nothing but a junk story! |
saracat |
Apr-21-07 04:58 PM |
#106 |
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It's hard to believe that you actually heard the whole tape. |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:48 PM |
#125 |
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Worst. Book Promotion. Evah. |
gatorboy |
Apr-21-07 05:22 PM |
#111 |
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LOL. n/t |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 05:53 PM |
#127 |
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My sister was a victim of parental alienation |
nini |
Apr-21-07 06:06 PM |
#128 |
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Unless your sister also raged at her children, |
pnwmom |
Apr-21-07 06:53 PM |
#144 |
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You obviously don't understand or believe P.A. is real |
nini |
Apr-21-07 07:16 PM |
#146 |
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How do you know what Basinger is really doing? What she says to Ireland? |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 01:58 AM |
#167 |
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THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE ISSUE WITH PARENTAL ALIENATION |
nini |
Apr-22-07 11:59 AM |
#198 |
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Save Alberto! Hurry! |
jazzjunkysue |
Apr-21-07 06:08 PM |
#130 |
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There should be laws that prohibit actors from |
winston61 |
Apr-21-07 06:44 PM |
#137 |
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The Bloodsport Of Divorce |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-21-07 07:26 PM |
#150 |
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It's verbal abuse |
Raine |
Apr-21-07 08:09 PM |
#156 |
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That's the thing. We have to recognize it as abusive so that we |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 02:15 AM |
#172 |
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Let's have every man & women reveal every angry moment about their s.o.'s to the press for everyone |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-21-07 08:17 PM |
#158 |
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I think that's why so many DUers are on his side. |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 02:19 AM |
#173 |
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We all agree it was wrong. |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-22-07 03:55 PM |
#202 |
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Humans who create children should think of the children |
SoCalDem |
Apr-22-07 04:34 AM |
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You're right. In two or three years the judge will let Ireland decide |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:46 AM |
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delete (dupe) |
pnwmom |
Apr-22-07 04:46 AM |
#186 |
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As far as I'm concerned, this whole incident is a private family matter! |
B Calm |
Apr-22-07 05:14 AM |
#189 |
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Whoa just heard that call on you tube, that was all a little unnnecessary... |
cooolandrew |
Apr-22-07 05:20 AM |
#190 |
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Basinger is the villain in this |
cgrindley |
Apr-22-07 05:53 AM |
#192 |
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I have the same feeling.. Women can be nasty in divorce and turn |
B Calm |
Apr-22-07 06:00 AM |
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Just another example of when self obsessed |
winston61 |
Apr-22-07 09:41 AM |
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I agree 1000% |
nini |
Apr-22-07 12:02 PM |
#199 |
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Oh, for fucks sake. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-23-07 12:25 PM |
#206 |
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Parents are human beings just like everyone else. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-23-07 12:47 PM |
#207 |