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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 05:28 PM
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76. If you're trying to get a good job so you can save your home, you're pretty SOL these days, too nt
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  -I don't see any plan to help renters taught_me_patience  Dec-09-09 03:24 PM   #0 
  - If it helps  Robb   Dec-09-09 03:26 PM   #1 
  - depends mate, i sold on the high end and just happened across the place i wanted on the low end  vadawg   Dec-09-09 03:58 PM   #14 
  - Doesn't all the stimulus spending not directly involved with homeownership...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Dec-09-09 03:26 PM   #2 
  - So you're admitting home owners get thousands in direct benefits  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 03:40 PM   #11 
     - I wouldn't refer to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act as trickle-down scraps.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Dec-09-09 03:45 PM   #12 
     - home owners get full benefit of that PLUS have their home purchase subsidized by renters  bettyellen   Dec-09-09 04:54 PM   #50 
     - Few homeowners have gotten any help and there are far more who need it than will ever get it  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 04:40 PM   #38 
        - I outlined five ways homeowners are getting direct taxpayer help  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:56 PM   #54 
           - Then feel free to jump right in here with us and get all these goodies for yourself  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:19 PM   #70 
  - poor working people always get the shaft ($ for clunkers)  mdmc   Dec-09-09 03:27 PM   #3 
  - well there is that new law allowing renters of foreclosed homes...  grasswire   Dec-09-09 03:28 PM   #4 
  - Renters pay less, and they carry NO vulnerability.  Buzz Clik   Dec-09-09 03:30 PM   #5 
  - You'll be taken to court if you break your lease, though.... n/t  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 03:35 PM   #9 
  - Most leases have the penalties of breaking the lease built into the contract.  Buzz Clik   Dec-09-09 06:53 PM   #86 
  - Renters pay more in my opinion  EndersDame   Dec-09-09 05:07 PM   #60 
     - Yes, in the long run renters are generally better off. They have short term flexibility, like now.  Buzz Clik   Dec-09-09 06:52 PM   #85 
  - What are renters losing in the housing crash/current economy?  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 03:34 PM   #6 
  - Their homes when their landlords go belly up.  EFerrari   Dec-09-09 03:36 PM   #10 
  - True enough there  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 03:56 PM   #13 
  - My mom went through this debacle with WaMu  EFerrari   Dec-09-09 04:09 PM   #18 
  - Really only criminal if there is no advanced warning IMHO.  YOY   Dec-09-09 04:00 PM   #15 
     - So homeowners get thousands in benefits  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:06 PM   #17 
     - and we get a shitload of risk and responsibilty of property...  YOY   Dec-09-09 04:21 PM   #21 
        - So you really believe that the thousands in subsidies that homeowners receive  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:25 PM   #23 
        - Yes. completely fair. From someone who has both rented and bought.  YOY   Dec-09-09 04:26 PM   #25 
        - I'm just sticking up for DU renters  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:33 PM   #29 
           - We do give a shit. You just don't seem to understand that owning a home is actually harder.  YOY   Dec-09-09 04:35 PM   #31 
           - lol you think the renters care about the homeowners either  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:37 PM   #34 
              - Homeowners. Not landlords. n/t  Pithlet   Dec-09-09 04:52 PM   #47 
        - definitely. renters don't pay property tax, for one thing.  dysfunctional press   Dec-09-09 04:40 PM   #37 
           - Renters don't pay directly, but of course we end up paying  kiva   Dec-09-09 05:11 PM   #63 
              - no- renters pay rent. the landlord pays property taxes.  dysfunctional press   Dec-09-09 05:18 PM   #68 
                 - And does the landlord factor in the cost of taxes into the rent  kiva   Dec-09-09 05:24 PM   #73 
                    - the area housing market determines the rent, not the owner's expenses.  dysfunctional press   Dec-09-09 05:54 PM   #82 
        - Yep.  Pithlet   Dec-09-09 04:26 PM   #24 
           - I commented to my wife just how screwed we'd be if we had to move.  YOY   Dec-09-09 04:42 PM   #39 
              - dude secret is to buy in various markets then you have the mobility  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:43 PM   #40 
                 - Easy if you have the liquid assets to do so.  YOY   Dec-09-09 04:45 PM   #42 
                 - yup but thats why its a long term plan and then at least your kids can have the options  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:46 PM   #43 
                    - parents didn't seem to give too much of a shit.  YOY   Dec-09-09 10:06 PM   #91 
                 - Yeah, it's just that easy. /sarcasm  Pithlet   Dec-09-09 04:49 PM   #44 
                    - 80% of first time buyer have parents that help w/ downpayment- hence the easy peasey entitlement  bettyellen   Dec-09-09 04:52 PM   #48 
                    - lol yeah because saving and going without and buying property is so hard  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:54 PM   #51 
                       - you're a fool if you think buying property in the NYC area is so easy. not all of us wanna live in  bettyellen   Dec-09-09 05:07 PM   #62 
                          - and your a fool to think that everyone wants to live in NYC  vadawg   Dec-09-09 05:23 PM   #71 
                             - but you are the fool who assumed thatanyone frm NYC 'd be willing to move to nowhere  bettyellen   Dec-09-09 05:37 PM   #80 
                    - yeah it is that easy if youhave a plan and you stick to it, who says you have to live in the choice  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:53 PM   #49 
                       - Yeah. Just having a plan and sticking to it. The rest are lucky ducks, right? n/t  Pithlet   Dec-09-09 04:54 PM   #52 
                          - lol okay then you just keep working to your plan and ill stick to mine..  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:56 PM   #55 
                             - lol yep im sure your plan is working out fine after all this is the internet  Pithlet   Dec-09-09 05:05 PM   #59 
     - Some dippy landlord (and I know, there are many) may be getting  EFerrari   Dec-09-09 04:11 PM   #19 
     - It takes a lot of money to go find another place  LisaM   Dec-09-09 06:54 PM   #87 
  - I think renters should be able to write off rent on income taxes  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:17 PM   #20 
     - You do realize that if rent were deductible there would be no home owners, right?  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 04:24 PM   #22 
        - Equity appreciation.  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:28 PM   #27 
        - What? Where in the world did you come up with that from?  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 04:32 PM   #28 
        - easy, when you own your own property then you can pretty much do as you like  vadawg   Dec-09-09 04:35 PM   # 
        - Really? I'm going to try a little hunting in front of my house and see what happens  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:25 PM   #74 
        - Prices will stabalize at a market price  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:35 PM   #32 
           - And how exactly is this making your argument that rent should be tax deductible? nt  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 04:37 PM   #35 
        - Not much equity appreciation going on these days so good luck with that  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:14 PM   #67 
        - The property taxes paid by homeowners fund a lot of the services in their area to which renters have  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 04:34 PM   #30 
        - Property taxes are indirectly paid by the renter. n/t  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 04:36 PM   #33 
           - And utility bills are either directly or indirectly paid, depending on the agreement.  Zynx   Dec-09-09 04:38 PM   #36 
           - To an extent but I guarantee you a renter paying the same amount in rent as a homeowner's mortgage  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 04:44 PM   #41 
        - you realize if your tax breaks disappeared the market would adjust and buying would be more affordab  bettyellen   Dec-09-09 04:51 PM   #45 
           - I get zero tax breaks for my residence. Nada.  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 04:55 PM   #53 
           - The early years of a mortgage there is some tax benefit when the payments are, mostly, interest  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:02 PM   #57 
           - either your residence is paid off or you need an accountant-because you shld get a break on interest  bettyellen   Dec-09-09 05:04 PM   #58 
              - Yes, my home is paid for with no mortgage.  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-09-09 05:31 PM   #78 
           - Well, my parents didn't help me. I bought my home in 2005 and I was 50 years old  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:00 PM   #56 
  - Renters are very disrespected in this economy  LisaM   Dec-09-09 03:34 PM   #7 
  - Everyone is very disrespected in this economy except the guys who stole all the money, set up this  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 04:52 PM   #46 
  - I agree. I think more should be done about that.  Pithlet   Dec-09-09 05:11 PM   #65 
  - If home ownership opens up, renters will be helped by decreased  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-09-09 03:35 PM   #8 
  - True. nt  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 04:27 PM   #26 
  - Ah, the "Trickle-Down" Theory of Renting.  Toasterlad   Dec-09-09 05:26 PM   #75 
     - I have seen them go down, once or twice - usually when the economy  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-10-09 09:57 AM   #92 
  - The guy who owns your building will get help....  LeftHander   Dec-09-09 04:02 PM   #16 
  - Renters are slackers just one rung above welfare recipients to some folks.  kestrel91316   Dec-09-09 05:07 PM   #61 
  - It's bizarre because most people rent.  EFerrari   Dec-09-09 05:12 PM   #66 
  - I noticed that too--some great deals for homeowners. But if you're trying to  mistertrickster   Dec-09-09 05:11 PM   #64 
  - If you're trying to get a good job so you can save your home, you're pretty SOL these days, too nt  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:28 PM   #76 
  - Or savers, those on fixed incomes...  LeftHandPath   Dec-09-09 05:18 PM   #69 
  - Savers and fixed incomes are getting screwed too  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 05:30 PM   #77 
  - No One In This Country Cares About Single, Childless, Non-Homeowners.  Toasterlad   Dec-09-09 05:23 PM   #72 
  - No one in this country cares about most anyone these days. If you're working class, you're screwed  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 05:31 PM   #79 
  - You know what? You really don't know what you are talking about in the least.  tjwash   Dec-09-09 05:52 PM   #81 
  - You do all that so that you can eventually profit, not 'for your  Bluenorthwest   Dec-09-09 06:28 PM   #83 
  - "whining about your own life decisions"  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 06:40 PM   #84 
     - Wrong. In my OP, I did not whine about my life decision  taught_me_patience   Dec-09-09 07:11 PM   #88 
        - Ok, whining cause people who did make that decision aren't being helped  laughingliberal   Dec-09-09 07:16 PM   #90 
  - So you are in the rental business for the opportunity to lose money?  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-10-09 10:03 AM   #93 
  - When I was renting and my water heater went out I picked up the  Synicus Maximus   Dec-09-09 07:15 PM   #89 

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