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Wed Dec-09-09 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 67. Not much equity appreciation going on these days so good luck with that |
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My state is #2 in foreclosures and #1 in negative equity.
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| -I don't see any plan to help renters |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 03:24 PM |
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If it helps |
Robb |
Dec-09-09 03:26 PM |
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depends mate, i sold on the high end and just happened across the place i wanted on the low end |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 03:58 PM |
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Doesn't all the stimulus spending not directly involved with homeownership... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Dec-09-09 03:26 PM |
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So you're admitting home owners get thousands in direct benefits |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 03:40 PM |
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I wouldn't refer to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act as trickle-down scraps. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Dec-09-09 03:45 PM |
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home owners get full benefit of that PLUS have their home purchase subsidized by renters |
bettyellen |
Dec-09-09 04:54 PM |
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Few homeowners have gotten any help and there are far more who need it than will ever get it |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 04:40 PM |
#38 |
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I outlined five ways homeowners are getting direct taxpayer help |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:56 PM |
#54 |
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Then feel free to jump right in here with us and get all these goodies for yourself |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:19 PM |
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poor working people always get the shaft ($ for clunkers) |
mdmc |
Dec-09-09 03:27 PM |
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well there is that new law allowing renters of foreclosed homes... |
grasswire |
Dec-09-09 03:28 PM |
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Renters pay less, and they carry NO vulnerability. |
Buzz Clik |
Dec-09-09 03:30 PM |
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You'll be taken to court if you break your lease, though.... n/t |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 03:35 PM |
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Most leases have the penalties of breaking the lease built into the contract. |
Buzz Clik |
Dec-09-09 06:53 PM |
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Renters pay more in my opinion |
EndersDame |
Dec-09-09 05:07 PM |
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Yes, in the long run renters are generally better off. They have short term flexibility, like now. |
Buzz Clik |
Dec-09-09 06:52 PM |
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What are renters losing in the housing crash/current economy? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 03:34 PM |
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Their homes when their landlords go belly up. |
EFerrari |
Dec-09-09 03:36 PM |
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True enough there |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 03:56 PM |
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My mom went through this debacle with WaMu |
EFerrari |
Dec-09-09 04:09 PM |
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Really only criminal if there is no advanced warning IMHO. |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 04:00 PM |
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So homeowners get thousands in benefits |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:06 PM |
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and we get a shitload of risk and debt...legal responsibilty of property... |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 04:21 PM |
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So you really believe that the thousands in subsidies that homeowners receive |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:25 PM |
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Yes. completely fair. From someone who has both rented and bought. |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 04:26 PM |
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I'm just sticking up for DU renters |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:33 PM |
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We do give a shit. You just don't seem to understand that owning a home is actually harder. |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 04:35 PM |
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lol you think the renters care about the homeowners either |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:37 PM |
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Homeowners. Not landlords. n/t |
Pithlet |
Dec-09-09 04:52 PM |
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definitely. renters don't pay property tax, for one thing. |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 04:40 PM |
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Renters don't pay directly, but of course we end up paying |
kiva |
Dec-09-09 05:11 PM |
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no- renters pay rent. the landlord pays property taxes. |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 05:18 PM |
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And does the landlord factor in the cost of taxes into the rent |
kiva |
Dec-09-09 05:24 PM |
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the area housing market determines the rent, not the owner's expenses. |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 05:54 PM |
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Yep. |
Pithlet |
Dec-09-09 04:26 PM |
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I commented to my wife just how screwed we'd be if we had to move. |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 04:42 PM |
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dude secret is to buy in various markets then you have the mobility |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:43 PM |
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Easy if you have the liquid assets to do so. |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 04:45 PM |
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yup but thats why its a long term plan and then at least your kids can have the options |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:46 PM |
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Funny...my parents didn't seem to give too much of a shit. |
YOY |
Dec-09-09 10:06 PM |
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Yeah, it's just that easy. /sarcasm |
Pithlet |
Dec-09-09 04:49 PM |
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80% of first time buyer have parents that help w/ downpayment- hence the easy peasey entitlement |
bettyellen |
Dec-09-09 04:52 PM |
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lol yeah because saving and going without and buying property is so hard |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:54 PM |
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you're a fool if you think buying property in the NYC area is so easy. not all of us wanna live in |
bettyellen |
Dec-09-09 05:07 PM |
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and your a fool to think that everyone wants to live in NYC |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 05:23 PM |
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but you are the fool who assumed thatanyone frm NYC 'd be willing to move to nowhere |
bettyellen |
Dec-09-09 05:37 PM |
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yeah it is that easy if youhave a plan and you stick to it, who says you have to live in the choice |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:53 PM |
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Yeah. Just having a plan and sticking to it. The rest are lucky ducks, right? n/t |
Pithlet |
Dec-09-09 04:54 PM |
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lol okay then you just keep working to your plan and ill stick to mine.. |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:56 PM |
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lol yep im sure your plan is working out fine after all this is the internet |
Pithlet |
Dec-09-09 05:05 PM |
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Some dippy landlord (and I know, there are many) may be getting |
EFerrari |
Dec-09-09 04:11 PM |
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It takes a lot of money to go find another place |
LisaM |
Dec-09-09 06:54 PM |
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I think renters should be able to write off rent on income taxes |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:17 PM |
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You do realize that if rent were deductible there would be no home owners, right? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 04:24 PM |
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Equity appreciation. |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:28 PM |
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What? Where in the world did you come up with that from? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 04:32 PM |
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easy, when you own your own property then you can pretty much do as you like |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 04:35 PM |
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Really? I'm going to try a little hunting in front of my house and see what happens |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:25 PM |
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Prices will stabalize at a market price |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:35 PM |
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And how exactly is this making your argument that rent should be tax deductible? nt |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 04:37 PM |
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Not much equity appreciation going on these days so good luck with that |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:14 PM |
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The property taxes paid by homeowners fund a lot of the services in their area to which renters have |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 04:34 PM |
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Property taxes are indirectly paid by the renter. n/t |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 04:36 PM |
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And utility bills are either directly or indirectly paid, depending on the agreement. |
Zynx |
Dec-09-09 04:38 PM |
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To an extent but I guarantee you a renter paying the same amount in rent as a homeowner's mortgage |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 04:44 PM |
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you realize if your tax breaks disappeared the market would adjust and buying would be more affordab |
bettyellen |
Dec-09-09 04:51 PM |
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I get zero tax breaks for my residence. Nada. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 04:55 PM |
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The early years of a mortgage there is some tax benefit when the payments are, mostly, interest |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:02 PM |
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either your residence is paid off or you need an accountant-because you shld get a break on interest |
bettyellen |
Dec-09-09 05:04 PM |
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Yes, my home is paid for with no mortgage. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Dec-09-09 05:31 PM |
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Well, my parents didn't help me. I bought my home in 2005 and I was 50 years old |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:00 PM |
#56 |
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Renters are very disrespected in this economy |
LisaM |
Dec-09-09 03:34 PM |
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Everyone is very disrespected in this economy except the guys who stole all the money, set up this |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 04:52 PM |
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I agree. I think more should be done about that. |
Pithlet |
Dec-09-09 05:11 PM |
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If home ownership opens up, renters will be helped by decreased |
RaleighNCDUer |
Dec-09-09 03:35 PM |
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True. nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 04:27 PM |
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Ah, the "Trickle-Down" Theory of Renting. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 05:26 PM |
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I have seen them go down, once or twice - usually when the economy |
RaleighNCDUer |
Dec-10-09 09:57 AM |
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The guy who owns your building will get help.... |
LeftHander |
Dec-09-09 04:02 PM |
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Renters are slackers just one rung above welfare recipients to some folks. |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-09-09 05:07 PM |
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It's bizarre because most people rent. |
EFerrari |
Dec-09-09 05:12 PM |
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I noticed that too--some great deals for homeowners. But if you're trying to |
mistertrickster |
Dec-09-09 05:11 PM |
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If you're trying to get a good job so you can save your home, you're pretty SOL these days, too nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:28 PM |
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Or savers, those on fixed incomes... |
LeftHandPath |
Dec-09-09 05:18 PM |
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Savers and fixed incomes are getting screwed too |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 05:30 PM |
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No One In This Country Cares About Single, Childless, Non-Homeowners. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 05:23 PM |
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No one in this country cares about most anyone these days. If you're working class, you're screwed |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 05:31 PM |
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You know what? You really don't know what you are talking about in the least. |
tjwash |
Dec-09-09 05:52 PM |
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You do all that so that you can eventually profit, not 'for your |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-09-09 06:28 PM |
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"whining about your own life decisions" |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 06:40 PM |
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Wrong. In my OP, I did not whine about my life decision |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-09-09 07:11 PM |
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Ok, whining cause people who did make that decision aren't being helped |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 07:16 PM |
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So you are in the rental business for the opportunity to lose money? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Dec-10-09 10:03 AM |
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When I was renting and my water heater went out I picked up the |
Synicus Maximus |
Dec-09-09 07:15 PM |
#89 |
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