Warren Stupidity
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Wed Dec-09-09 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #40 |
| 55. " Lamont was endorsed as the candidate." |
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eh, well, Lamont's support from the Washington Establishment Democrats was lukewarm at best. They f'ing hate us, they hate our candidates in the primaries, they sabotage everything we do, and despise the fact that they have to pay even minimal lip service to our goals and aspirations. We are the problem in their view.
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| -"Members are expected . . . to support Democratic candidates.. ." |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 08:44 AM |
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I'm there with you |
michreject |
Dec-09-09 08:47 AM |
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K&R |
lamp_shade |
Dec-09-09 08:48 AM |
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There are some things that cannot be discussed at DU |
mdmc |
Dec-09-09 08:49 AM |
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And this is my problem. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:03 AM |
#54 |
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You are complaining about "whiners" |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Dec-09-09 12:45 PM |
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*grin* |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:06 PM |
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rofl EPIC WIN |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 01:52 PM |
#142 |
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conservatives use the word "whining" |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:05 PM |
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"Conservatives" aren't wrong about everything |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:06 PM |
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What are they right about? |
Forkboy |
Dec-09-09 02:28 PM |
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where do you discuss them? the rest of us will join you and leave the paid DLC shills |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 01:26 PM |
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This HCR is just a beginning--people have to realize that |
Kingofalldems |
Dec-09-09 08:50 AM |
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This is an insurance bill not HCR |
dflprincess |
Dec-09-09 01:19 PM |
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I like that too, though that's the kind of outcome I'd expect if Dems had a narrow majority |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:07 PM |
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have you noticed that Dems are giving us table scraps and corporation filet mignon? |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:07 PM |
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You've posted this twice in GD |
MadHound |
Dec-09-09 08:59 AM |
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maybe he should post on www.democraticmainstream.com |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:11 PM |
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I certainly am "generally supportive of progressive ideals" and |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-09-09 09:01 AM |
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but not politicians - "..are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals" |
msongs |
Dec-09-09 09:01 AM |
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Not to mention the ones who are genuinely unable to discern that they are rightward>>>>> |
Echo In Light |
Dec-09-09 09:51 AM |
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there are no candidates to support at this time. |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 09:10 AM |
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When people advocated not voting or voting 3rd party, to me that is not supporting the democrats |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:12 AM |
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you're welcome to your interpretation- but you don't own the site... |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 09:18 AM |
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No, I'm going with the rules of the democratic underground dear |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:19 AM |
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you're the one that seems unhappy. why would i go anywhere..? |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 09:23 AM |
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Sure there are! |
FailingParachute |
Dec-09-09 09:46 AM |
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Um, seriously, I'm not that stupid to play into your word tricks |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:48 AM |
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If nobody speaks up against the crapfest in washington |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 10:01 AM |
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Separate the two ideas here - people are taking my one concept and trying to merge it into another |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 10:19 AM |
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Please point out where in the rules |
arcadian |
Dec-09-09 10:40 AM |
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" Lamont was endorsed as the candidate." |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 11:03 AM |
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Refreshing to hear LynneSin n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:19 AM |
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The better news is we're entitled to raise this legitimate point. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:01 AM |
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so alert the mods and stop posing as one |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 11:04 AM |
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Posing as one? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:35 AM |
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You are giving us stern lectures about how we should behave |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 01:03 PM |
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Nope. Not going to stop. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:08 PM |
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Nope. The time to raise this issue is now. n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:03 AM |
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I understand your sentiments, and to some degree share them, |
existentialist |
Dec-09-09 09:11 AM |
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I'm not good at taking the high road. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:51 AM |
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Sorry but I am not a Democratic Party sports team fanatic. |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 09:12 AM |
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me either. |
diamidue |
Dec-09-09 11:58 AM |
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Well Said diamidue! The majority of Dems seem to be |
aaronbav |
Dec-09-09 12:38 PM |
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GREAT post Cary |
kctim |
Dec-09-09 09:17 AM |
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Do you mean peopl like these guys? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-09-09 09:21 AM |
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Kudos. |
StillHopingForChange |
Dec-09-09 09:40 AM |
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+1 |
L0oniX |
Dec-09-09 10:15 AM |
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None of these say, "Don't vote" or "Not voting". So you make the OP's Point. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-09-09 11:51 AM |
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What part of "..to take a part with either would be unworthy.." don't you get? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-09-09 12:47 PM |
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I voted against a democrat in 2008 |
AllentownJake |
Dec-09-09 09:45 AM |
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Did you actively campaign against the Democratic PA Attorney general here at DU? |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:56 AM |
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I think a thread on a PA statwide race would sink in 2008 pretty fast |
AllentownJake |
Dec-09-09 10:04 AM |
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Obama has some great wins and some "OMG WTF" moments too |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 10:12 AM |
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Sometimes the best choice is not to support a particular democrat |
AllentownJake |
Dec-09-09 10:32 AM |
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You are so wise |
goclark |
Dec-09-09 10:52 AM |
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And Bernie caucuses with the Democrats |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:22 AM |
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I'm sorry you've been offended. However, the outrage lately has |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-09-09 09:53 AM |
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Then support those that run against them in the primaries |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:57 AM |
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If there are no current obvious challengers,the only way lay ground for that is to condemn them NOW. |
closeupready |
Dec-09-09 10:06 AM |
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Why? |
FailingParachute |
Dec-09-09 10:18 AM |
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Oh whatever |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 10:20 AM |
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I didn't expect much, based upon your beliefs in fairy tales |
FailingParachute |
Dec-09-09 11:17 AM |
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You know absolutely nothing about me |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 12:59 PM |
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See, you're wrong. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:32 AM |
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BECAUSE this is democratic underground, not democratic mainstream? |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:18 PM |
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"Generally". nt |
Javaman |
Dec-09-09 09:59 AM |
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Alert is your friend |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-09-09 10:00 AM |
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Tough Noogies |
BakedAtAMileHigh |
Dec-09-09 10:02 AM |
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Moot point. There are no candidates. |
closeupready |
Dec-09-09 10:03 AM |
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Our representatives no longer fear us. |
Tailormyst |
Dec-09-09 10:12 AM |
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Now that's some cognitive dissonance, these days. |
Morning Dew |
Dec-09-09 10:13 AM |
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So work to get them out of office. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:06 AM |
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It is an important distinction. |
Morning Dew |
Dec-09-09 01:27 PM |
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You do what you can do. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:42 PM |
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Hear!! hear!!! and huzzah! |
jpak |
Dec-09-09 10:14 AM |
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"progressive ideals" so uhm where are all these right of center asscarrots coming from? |
L0oniX |
Dec-09-09 10:14 AM |
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+1.......well said. |
bvar22 |
Dec-09-09 11:12 AM |
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The problem is not with the rank and file Democrats acting like Democrats, |
Vinca |
Dec-09-09 10:16 AM |
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+1 |
Ganja Ninja |
Dec-09-09 10:23 AM |
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By all means let the witch hunts begin. |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-09-09 10:21 AM |
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Don't mind the purists |
leftynyc |
Dec-09-09 10:24 AM |
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Good point, but why not call them out? n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:13 PM |
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You should not be offended or surprised |
kctim |
Dec-09-09 10:36 AM |
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It is the same tactic as "conservatives" use |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:17 AM |
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I guess this is a step-up from calling them bigots. nt |
Umbral |
Dec-09-09 10:54 AM |
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What do you want us to do? This needed to be a PM to Skinner. |
spoony |
Dec-09-09 10:54 AM |
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You don't like it that I express my point of view. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:23 AM |
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Uhhhh your entire OP was complaining about people expressing their point of view! |
spoony |
Dec-09-09 11:45 AM |
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Wrong. In my OP I questioned whether people like you violate forum rules |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:52 PM |
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Odd, that was the accusation I was going to make of you based on your rather |
Raineyb |
Dec-09-09 01:23 PM |
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to which candidate do you refer? |
branders seine |
Dec-09-09 10:56 AM |
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Remember Ford(blue dog), the Nelsons, Lieberman, Landrieu |
hayu_lol |
Dec-09-09 11:04 AM |
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I foresee a lot of tombstones in the next 11 months |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-09-09 11:02 AM |
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I'm pissed, too. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 11:05 AM |
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Who has abused you, and how have they abused you? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:33 AM |
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Plenty of posters. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 11:45 AM |
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You don't think you have been throwing tantrums? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:05 PM |
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I completely support the Democratic Party Platform. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 12:46 PM |
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Oh, don't forget that we want a pony and belong to the 'teabag left' |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 12:40 PM |
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Oh, I don't want a pony. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 12:56 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-09-09 01:11 PM |
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I have not advocated a boycott of Dems |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 01:37 PM |
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The Rule Is Contradictory. You Can't Support Both Progressive Ideals AND Most Democratic Candidates |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 11:37 AM |
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Whether you have more integrity or are smarter than I am is debatable |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:41 AM |
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How On Earth Does That Make Your Point? |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 11:51 AM |
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When you proclaim that people who endorse Democrats. . . |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:09 PM |
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Hah. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 12:15 PM |
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You keep trying to change the subject |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:00 PM |
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Perhaps You Should Read "Fun With Dick and Jane" a Few More Times |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 01:59 PM |
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"we are allowed to discuss the many shortcomings of the Democratic party" |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 02:20 PM |
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It's getting out of hand |
treestar |
Dec-09-09 11:38 AM |
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The should unite with Freepers |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:43 AM |
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If freepers are lurking - then maybe they will start to learn what a |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-09-09 11:43 AM |
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And speaking of mods, it would be nice if a few of them weighed in. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:46 AM |
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Query. How do you propose to prove that we don't or didn't support a candidate on election day? |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-09-09 11:50 AM |
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I never suggested any such thing. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:57 AM |
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K&R and I must have been channeling you this morning... |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-09-09 11:49 AM |
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It's very frustrating to come here as a solid Democrat and progressive, |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:54 AM |
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If the center ever decided to go after the right the way the do the left.... |
Forkboy |
Dec-09-09 12:00 PM |
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Tombstone the progressives and enshrine the DLC? |
debbierlus |
Dec-09-09 11:59 AM |
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"Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals" |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-09-09 12:08 PM |
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How does this give you license to abuse Democrats here? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:11 PM |
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aw, poor widdle mainstream Democrat |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 12:14 PM |
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+1,000,000. |
closeupready |
Dec-09-09 12:52 PM |
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I think there's a great chance that people like you will give us Sarah Palin. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:13 PM |
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"People like you" |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 01:49 PM |
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Why am I getting abused here for supporting Democrats, and |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:56 PM |
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Because this is just attack-the-liberals flamebait |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 02:00 PM |
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That was written back when Democrats were thought to be supportive of progressive ideals. nt |
Lex |
Dec-09-09 12:14 PM |
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Yay Ben Nelson! |
rucky |
Dec-09-09 12:16 PM |
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LOL! |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-09 02:17 PM |
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Thank you for this post, you certainly speak for me also! |
watercolors |
Dec-09-09 12:20 PM |
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I was brought up to support the Catholic church |
Prism |
Dec-09-09 12:47 PM |
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How is "My party right or wrong" any less sheepish than "My country right or wrong"? |
Raineyb |
Dec-09-09 01:30 PM |
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Is there an election is the offing? |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-09-09 12:46 PM |
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what the fuck is a mainstream democrat? so ban me. |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:04 PM |
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By mainstream I simply mean that I support Dems over Republicans |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:46 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-09-09 01:08 PM |
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The problem with liberals is we have this weird fixation on the TRUH. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-09-09 01:11 PM |
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Yeah, the TRUH really hurts, doesn't it? |
HughMoran |
Dec-09-09 01:18 PM |
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Teh TRUH cans sets u free |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:45 PM |
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Is the OP "generally supportive of progressive ideals"? |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:12 PM |
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Bullshit. n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:23 PM |
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You are unable to consider the question, answer it, address the POV? |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:33 PM |
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I admit that I am intolerant of ignorant and abusive nonsense. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:50 PM |
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You are behaving exactly like what you're whining about in the OP |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:04 PM |
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I have done nothing to undermine the Democratic Party. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:12 PM |
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You are talking to individual posters as if you've lumped everyone together in your mind |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:18 PM |
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What agenda? It would seem that the agenda you're upholding |
Raineyb |
Dec-09-09 01:14 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-09-09 01:37 PM |
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So you lecture others about being abusive... |
Bjorn Against |
Dec-09-09 01:56 PM |
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supporting progressive ideals and Democratic candidates are NOT the same thing |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 01:25 PM |
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What about undermining the Democratic Party? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:39 PM |
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what about elected Democrats undermining the progressive ideals of the party? |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 01:55 PM |
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It is true that the Democratic party moves ever further to the |
LiberalAndProud |
Dec-09-09 01:34 PM |
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This is the irony here |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:38 PM |
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The irony here |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:51 PM |
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That's an excellent question |
leftstreet |
Dec-09-09 01:56 PM |
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Fine, but why should this be allowed here? n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:01 PM |
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One reason to allow it is to prevent an echo chamber of mindless clones who think in lockstep |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:08 PM |
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You're changing the subject. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:00 PM |
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You are avoiding the subject |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:15 PM |
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Bullshit again. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:22 PM |
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Now you're projecting even more? This is crazy. Buh Bye |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:25 PM |
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And in the middle of writing that, I just got push-polled. |
LiberalAndProud |
Dec-09-09 01:51 PM |
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could you define ''mainstream Democrat''? Also, this is a DISCUSSION BOARD if we all always... |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:05 PM |
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I did that earlier. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:15 PM |
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"I intended to bother people." |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:16 PM |
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What's wrong with that? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:19 PM |
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#162 |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:26 PM |
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"I intended to bother people" |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 02:22 PM |
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which reply was that? did you have more detail? You didn't give any policy positions except to say |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:20 PM |
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This isn't relevant yurbud |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:25 PM |
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We want better Democrats, not pseudo-democrats! |
RedCloud |
Dec-09-09 02:10 PM |
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Again, politics is the art of the possible. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:17 PM |
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In a democracy it's also the art of candidates persuading people to vote for them. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-09-09 02:24 PM |
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Not the point Tierra_y_Libertad |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:28 PM |
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Me too. |
LiberalAndProud |
Dec-09-09 02:21 PM |
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'Scuze me there, Sparky. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-09 02:20 PM |
#168 |
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Do we get a ring with that purity test? nt |
tsuki |
Dec-09-09 02:26 PM |
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We're locking this. |
pinto |
Dec-09-09 02:29 PM |
#181 |