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| 29. Moot point. There are no candidates. |
| -"Members are expected . . . to support Democratic candidates.. ." |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 08:44 AM |
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I'm there with you |
michreject |
Dec-09-09 08:47 AM |
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K&R |
lamp_shade |
Dec-09-09 08:48 AM |
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There are some things that cannot be discussed at DU |
mdmc |
Dec-09-09 08:49 AM |
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And this is my problem. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:03 AM |
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You are complaining about "whiners" |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Dec-09-09 12:45 PM |
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*grin* |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:06 PM |
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rofl EPIC WIN |
vadawg |
Dec-09-09 01:52 PM |
#142 |
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conservatives use the word "whining" |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:05 PM |
#111 |
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"Conservatives" aren't wrong about everything |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:06 PM |
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What are they right about? |
Forkboy |
Dec-09-09 02:28 PM |
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where do you discuss them? the rest of us will join you and leave the paid DLC shills |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 01:26 PM |
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This HCR is just a beginning--people have to realize that |
Kingofalldems |
Dec-09-09 08:50 AM |
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This is an insurance bill not HCR |
dflprincess |
Dec-09-09 01:19 PM |
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I like that too, though that's the kind of outcome I'd expect if Dems had a narrow majority |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:07 PM |
#155 |
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have you noticed that Dems are giving us table scraps and corporation filet mignon? |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:07 PM |
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You've posted this twice in GD |
MadHound |
Dec-09-09 08:59 AM |
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maybe he should post on www.democraticmainstream.com |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:11 PM |
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I certainly am "generally supportive of progressive ideals" and |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-09-09 09:01 AM |
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but not politicians - "..are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals" |
msongs |
Dec-09-09 09:01 AM |
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Not to mention the ones who are genuinely unable to discern that they are rightward>>>>> |
Echo In Light |
Dec-09-09 09:51 AM |
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there are no candidates to support at this time. |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 09:10 AM |
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When people advocated not voting or voting 3rd party, to me that is not supporting the democrats |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:12 AM |
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you're welcome to your interpretation- but you don't own the site... |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 09:18 AM |
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No, I'm going with the rules of the democratic underground dear |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:19 AM |
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you're the one that seems unhappy. why would i go anywhere..? |
dysfunctional press |
Dec-09-09 09:23 AM |
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Sure there are! |
FailingParachute |
Dec-09-09 09:46 AM |
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Um, seriously, I'm not that stupid to play into your word tricks |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:48 AM |
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If nobody speaks up against the crapfest in washington |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 10:01 AM |
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Separate the two ideas here - people are taking my one concept and trying to merge it into another |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 10:19 AM |
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Please point out where in the rules |
arcadian |
Dec-09-09 10:40 AM |
#47 |
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" Lamont was endorsed as the candidate." |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 11:03 AM |
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Refreshing to hear LynneSin n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:19 AM |
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The better news is we're entitled to raise this legitimate point. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:01 AM |
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so alert the mods and stop posing as one |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 11:04 AM |
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Posing as one? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:35 AM |
#69 |
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You are giving us stern lectures about how we should behave |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 01:03 PM |
#109 |
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Nope. Not going to stop. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:08 PM |
#158 |
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Nope. The time to raise this issue is now. n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:03 AM |
#56 |
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I understand your sentiments, and to some degree share them, |
existentialist |
Dec-09-09 09:11 AM |
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I'm not good at taking the high road. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:51 AM |
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Sorry but I am not a Democratic Party sports team fanatic. |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-09-09 09:12 AM |
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me either. |
diamidue |
Dec-09-09 11:58 AM |
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Well Said diamidue! The majority of Dems seem to be |
aaronbav |
Dec-09-09 12:38 PM |
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GREAT post Cary |
kctim |
Dec-09-09 09:17 AM |
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Do you mean peopl like these guys? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-09-09 09:21 AM |
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Kudos. |
StillHopingForChange |
Dec-09-09 09:40 AM |
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+1 |
L0oniX |
Dec-09-09 10:15 AM |
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None of these say, "Don't vote" or "Not voting". So you make the OP's Point. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-09-09 11:51 AM |
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What part of "..to take a part with either would be unworthy.." don't you get? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-09-09 12:47 PM |
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I voted against a democrat in 2008 |
AllentownJake |
Dec-09-09 09:45 AM |
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Did you actively campaign against the Democratic PA Attorney general here at DU? |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:56 AM |
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I think a thread on a PA statwide race would sink in 2008 pretty fast |
AllentownJake |
Dec-09-09 10:04 AM |
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Obama has some great wins and some "OMG WTF" moments too |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 10:12 AM |
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Sometimes the best choice is not to support a particular democrat |
AllentownJake |
Dec-09-09 10:32 AM |
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You are so wise |
goclark |
Dec-09-09 10:52 AM |
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And Bernie caucuses with the Democrats |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:22 AM |
#65 |
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I'm sorry you've been offended. However, the outrage lately has |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-09-09 09:53 AM |
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Then support those that run against them in the primaries |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 09:57 AM |
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If there are no current obvious challengers,the only way lay ground for that is to condemn them NOW. |
closeupready |
Dec-09-09 10:06 AM |
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Why? |
FailingParachute |
Dec-09-09 10:18 AM |
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Oh whatever |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 10:20 AM |
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I didn't expect much, based upon your beliefs in fairy tales |
FailingParachute |
Dec-09-09 11:17 AM |
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You know absolutely nothing about me |
LynneSin |
Dec-09-09 12:59 PM |
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See, you're wrong. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:32 AM |
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BECAUSE this is democratic underground, not democratic mainstream? |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:18 PM |
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"Generally". nt |
Javaman |
Dec-09-09 09:59 AM |
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Alert is your friend |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-09-09 10:00 AM |
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Tough Noogies |
BakedAtAMileHigh |
Dec-09-09 10:02 AM |
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Moot point. There are no candidates. |
closeupready |
Dec-09-09 10:03 AM |
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Our representatives no longer fear us. |
Tailormyst |
Dec-09-09 10:12 AM |
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Now that's some cognitive dissonance, these days. |
Morning Dew |
Dec-09-09 10:13 AM |
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So work to get them out of office. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:06 AM |
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It is an important distinction. |
Morning Dew |
Dec-09-09 01:27 PM |
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You do what you can do. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:42 PM |
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Hear!! hear!!! and huzzah! |
jpak |
Dec-09-09 10:14 AM |
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"progressive ideals" so uhm where are all these right of center asscarrots coming from? |
L0oniX |
Dec-09-09 10:14 AM |
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+1.......well said. |
bvar22 |
Dec-09-09 11:12 AM |
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The problem is not with the rank and file Democrats acting like Democrats, |
Vinca |
Dec-09-09 10:16 AM |
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+1 |
Ganja Ninja |
Dec-09-09 10:23 AM |
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By all means let the witch hunts begin. |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-09-09 10:21 AM |
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Don't mind the purists |
leftynyc |
Dec-09-09 10:24 AM |
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Good point, but why not call them out? n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:13 PM |
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You should not be offended or surprised |
kctim |
Dec-09-09 10:36 AM |
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It is the same tactic as "conservatives" use |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:17 AM |
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I guess this is a step-up from calling them bigots. nt |
Umbral |
Dec-09-09 10:54 AM |
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What do you want us to do? This needed to be a PM to Skinner. |
spoony |
Dec-09-09 10:54 AM |
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You don't like it that I express my point of view. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:23 AM |
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Uhhhh your entire OP was complaining about people expressing their point of view! |
spoony |
Dec-09-09 11:45 AM |
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Wrong. In my OP I questioned whether people like you violate forum rules |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:52 PM |
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Odd, that was the accusation I was going to make of you based on your rather |
Raineyb |
Dec-09-09 01:23 PM |
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to which candidate do you refer? |
branders seine |
Dec-09-09 10:56 AM |
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Remember Ford(blue dog), the Nelsons, Lieberman, Landrieu |
hayu_lol |
Dec-09-09 11:04 AM |
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I foresee a lot of tombstones in the next 11 months |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-09-09 11:02 AM |
#53 |
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I'm pissed, too. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 11:05 AM |
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Who has abused you, and how have they abused you? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:33 AM |
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Plenty of posters. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 11:45 AM |
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You don't think you have been throwing tantrums? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:05 PM |
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I completely support the Democratic Party Platform. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 12:46 PM |
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Oh, don't forget that we want a pony and belong to the 'teabag left' |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 12:40 PM |
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Oh, I don't want a pony. |
Hatchling |
Dec-09-09 12:56 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-09-09 01:11 PM |
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I have not advocated a boycott of Dems |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 01:37 PM |
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The Rule Is Contradictory. You Can't Support Both Progressive Ideals AND Most Democratic Candidates |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 11:37 AM |
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Whether you have more integrity or are smarter than I am is debatable |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:41 AM |
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How On Earth Does That Make Your Point? |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 11:51 AM |
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When you proclaim that people who endorse Democrats. . . |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:09 PM |
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Hah. |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 12:15 PM |
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You keep trying to change the subject |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:00 PM |
#108 |
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Perhaps You Should Read "Fun With Dick and Jane" a Few More Times |
Toasterlad |
Dec-09-09 01:59 PM |
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"we are allowed to discuss the many shortcomings of the Democratic party" |
laughingliberal |
Dec-09-09 02:20 PM |
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It's getting out of hand |
treestar |
Dec-09-09 11:38 AM |
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The should unite with Freepers |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:43 AM |
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If freepers are lurking - then maybe they will start to learn what a |
Thickasabrick |
Dec-09-09 11:43 AM |
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And speaking of mods, it would be nice if a few of them weighed in. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:46 AM |
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Query. How do you propose to prove that we don't or didn't support a candidate on election day? |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-09-09 11:50 AM |
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I never suggested any such thing. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:57 AM |
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K&R and I must have been channeling you this morning... |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-09-09 11:49 AM |
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It's very frustrating to come here as a solid Democrat and progressive, |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 11:54 AM |
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If the center ever decided to go after the right the way the do the left.... |
Forkboy |
Dec-09-09 12:00 PM |
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Tombstone the progressives and enshrine the DLC? |
debbierlus |
Dec-09-09 11:59 AM |
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"Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals" |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-09-09 12:08 PM |
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How does this give you license to abuse Democrats here? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 12:11 PM |
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aw, poor widdle mainstream Democrat |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 12:14 PM |
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+1,000,000. |
closeupready |
Dec-09-09 12:52 PM |
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I think there's a great chance that people like you will give us Sarah Palin. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:13 PM |
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"People like you" |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 01:49 PM |
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Why am I getting abused here for supporting Democrats, and |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:56 PM |
#145 |
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Because this is just attack-the-liberals flamebait |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 02:00 PM |
#150 |
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That was written back when Democrats were thought to be supportive of progressive ideals. nt |
Lex |
Dec-09-09 12:14 PM |
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Yay Ben Nelson! |
rucky |
Dec-09-09 12:16 PM |
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LOL! |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-09 02:17 PM |
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Thank you for this post, you certainly speak for me also! |
watercolors |
Dec-09-09 12:20 PM |
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I was brought up to support the Catholic church |
Prism |
Dec-09-09 12:47 PM |
#103 |
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How is "My party right or wrong" any less sheepish than "My country right or wrong"? |
Raineyb |
Dec-09-09 01:30 PM |
#128 |
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Is there an election is the offing? |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-09-09 12:46 PM |
#101 |
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what the fuck is a mainstream democrat? so ban me. |
sui generis |
Dec-09-09 01:04 PM |
#110 |
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By mainstream I simply mean that I support Dems over Republicans |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:46 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-09-09 01:08 PM |
#113 |
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The problem with liberals is we have this weird fixation on the TRUH. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-09-09 01:11 PM |
#114 |
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Yeah, the TRUH really hurts, doesn't it? |
HughMoran |
Dec-09-09 01:18 PM |
#120 |
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Teh TRUH cans sets u free |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:45 PM |
#136 |
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Is the OP "generally supportive of progressive ideals"? |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:12 PM |
#117 |
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Bullshit. n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:23 PM |
#124 |
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You are unable to consider the question, answer it, address the POV? |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:33 PM |
#129 |
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I admit that I am intolerant of ignorant and abusive nonsense. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:50 PM |
#139 |
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You are behaving exactly like what you're whining about in the OP |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:04 PM |
#152 |
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I have done nothing to undermine the Democratic Party. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:12 PM |
#160 |
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You are talking to individual posters as if you've lumped everyone together in your mind |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:18 PM |
#166 |
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What agenda? It would seem that the agenda you're upholding |
Raineyb |
Dec-09-09 01:14 PM |
#119 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-09-09 01:37 PM |
#131 |
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So you lecture others about being abusive... |
Bjorn Against |
Dec-09-09 01:56 PM |
#147 |
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supporting progressive ideals and Democratic candidates are NOT the same thing |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 01:25 PM |
#125 |
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What about undermining the Democratic Party? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:39 PM |
#134 |
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what about elected Democrats undermining the progressive ideals of the party? |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 01:55 PM |
#144 |
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It is true that the Democratic party moves ever further to the |
LiberalAndProud |
Dec-09-09 01:34 PM |
#130 |
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This is the irony here |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 01:38 PM |
#133 |
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The irony here |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 01:51 PM |
#140 |
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That's an excellent question |
leftstreet |
Dec-09-09 01:56 PM |
#146 |
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Fine, but why should this be allowed here? n/t |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:01 PM |
#151 |
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One reason to allow it is to prevent an echo chamber of mindless clones who think in lockstep |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:08 PM |
#157 |
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You're changing the subject. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:00 PM |
#149 |
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You are avoiding the subject |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:15 PM |
#162 |
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Bullshit again. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:22 PM |
#173 |
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Now you're projecting even more? This is crazy. Buh Bye |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:25 PM |
#175 |
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And in the middle of writing that, I just got push-polled. |
LiberalAndProud |
Dec-09-09 01:51 PM |
#141 |
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could you define ''mainstream Democrat''? Also, this is a DISCUSSION BOARD if we all always... |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:05 PM |
#153 |
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I did that earlier. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:15 PM |
#161 |
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"I intended to bother people." |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:16 PM |
#163 |
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What's wrong with that? |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:19 PM |
#167 |
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#162 |
omega minimo |
Dec-09-09 02:26 PM |
#178 |
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"I intended to bother people" |
Neecy |
Dec-09-09 02:22 PM |
#172 |
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which reply was that? did you have more detail? You didn't give any policy positions except to say |
yurbud |
Dec-09-09 02:20 PM |
#169 |
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This isn't relevant yurbud |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:25 PM |
#176 |
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We want better Democrats, not pseudo-democrats! |
RedCloud |
Dec-09-09 02:10 PM |
#159 |
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Again, politics is the art of the possible. |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:17 PM |
#165 |
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In a democracy it's also the art of candidates persuading people to vote for them. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-09-09 02:24 PM |
#174 |
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Not the point Tierra_y_Libertad |
Cary |
Dec-09-09 02:28 PM |
#180 |
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Me too. |
LiberalAndProud |
Dec-09-09 02:21 PM |
#171 |
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'Scuze me there, Sparky. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-09 02:20 PM |
#168 |
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Do we get a ring with that purity test? nt |
tsuki |
Dec-09-09 02:26 PM |
#177 |
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We're locking this. |
pinto |
Dec-09-09 02:29 PM |
#181 |
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