Hannah Bell
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Tue Dec-08-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 48. lol. us capitalism = the *most* regulated environment on earth - in favor of big capital. |
| -Jared Diamond asks "Will Big Business Save the Earth?" in NYT oped |
kristopher |
Dec-07-09 12:34 AM |
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The epitome of a practical analysis... and the judgement is toward going "green". |
LooseWilly |
Dec-07-09 12:48 AM |
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Mr Diamond is an outstanding researcher. |
Betty Karlson |
Dec-07-09 01:23 AM |
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If Americans do what they need to do to cut consumption where does that leave companies |
ipaint |
Dec-07-09 01:30 AM |
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"If Americans ever get serious...." |
cbdo2007 |
Dec-07-09 08:32 AM |
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More to the point is "Who else could?" Or will... |
TreasonousBastard |
Dec-07-09 01:45 AM |
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only if they destroy the basis of their power, so why would they? |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-07-09 04:13 AM |
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If you read the article he answers that... |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:16 PM |
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"green goals" = corpspeak. expansion of profit depends on expansion of |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 12:39 PM |
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Not always. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:40 PM |
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lol. i notice you give no examples. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 01:04 PM |
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Actually I did, I posted the OP. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 01:33 PM |
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of how profits expand without expanded markets, i.e. more consumption. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 04:26 PM |
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Oh my... |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 04:31 PM |
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that "reduction" = reduced profit for somebody, buddy boy, & an |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 04:43 PM |
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I surrender |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 05:27 PM |
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it's crackpots who think name-calling wins arguments. too bad you got nothing to back up your |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 05:39 PM |
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Wrong |
blindpig |
Dec-08-09 01:34 PM |
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Diamond is out of his mind on this one. |
blindpig |
Dec-07-09 07:56 AM |
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Actually I think it is the part that you don't understand that is the problem... |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:29 PM |
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Government functions as a branch of capitalism |
blindpig |
Dec-08-09 01:11 PM |
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The US is the most unregulated economy on earth. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 01:31 PM |
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In case you didn't notice |
blindpig |
Dec-08-09 02:35 PM |
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lol. us capitalism = the *most* regulated environment on earth - in favor of big capital. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 04:45 PM |
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LOL |
AllentownJake |
Dec-07-09 08:00 AM |
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Word |
XemaSab |
Dec-07-09 11:04 PM |
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Isn't that cute... |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:14 PM |
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I thought "Collapse" was one of the worst written, worst thought out |
XemaSab |
Dec-09-09 08:38 PM |
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Let's see.. Jared Diamond or Allentown Jake |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:12 PM |
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"I'm also intrigued by that characterization." |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Dec-08-09 12:13 PM |
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Diamond's argument/belief is fucking retarded. |
anonymous171 |
Dec-08-09 12:19 PM |
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It's fair to say his argument is both unconventional and demanding in supporting evidence. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-08-09 12:22 PM |
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Well I guess that settles it. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:23 PM |
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What part of this do you think is "fucking retarded." |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Dec-08-09 12:27 PM |
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A should be tweaked |
anonymous171 |
Dec-08-09 12:34 PM |
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Oh great point. Making money is totally different than generating profit. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Dec-08-09 12:37 PM |
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"consciousness" = awareness, not the development of conscience |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:39 PM |
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That lack of moral foundation is what I was taking issue with |
anonymous171 |
Dec-08-09 12:47 PM |
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That is a straw man. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 01:25 PM |
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I read his books carefully |
XemaSab |
Dec-09-09 08:47 PM |
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Diamond is a fine biologist |
blindpig |
Dec-08-09 12:29 PM |
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Actually his "understanding of economic systems" is excellent. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:32 PM |
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Corporations exist solely for profits. |
blindpig |
Dec-08-09 01:14 PM |
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What an absurd post. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 01:26 PM |
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corporations are in business for some reason other than profit? news to me, & everyone else in the |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 04:46 PM |
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Eugene Odum preached this for years. |
GoCubsGo |
Dec-07-09 08:23 AM |
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CEOs aren't the problem. The Corporate System is. |
anonymous171 |
Dec-08-09 12:17 PM |
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You clearly have never read Diamond's work |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:21 PM |
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Diamond's "Collapse" is required reading for anyone interested in environmental degredation. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-08-09 12:19 PM |
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Yep, the two are really important. |
sofa king |
Dec-08-09 12:24 PM |
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Yep. |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 12:35 PM |
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So many replies, and so few people have read Collapse. |
Ignis |
Dec-08-09 03:10 PM |
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An opposing view |
blindpig |
Dec-08-09 03:25 PM |
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yeah, you just keep waiting for that Marxist revolution... |
kristopher |
Dec-08-09 04:34 PM |
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lol. you just keep waiting for your "regulated ethical capitalism," too. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-09 04:48 PM |
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Is he the guy that played Screech or the guy that sang "Cracklin' Rosie"? |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-08-09 04:48 PM |
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