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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:53 AM
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3. I remember it clear as day - it was reported in the news and promptly ignored everywhere
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 07:53 AM by ThomWV
They never - NEVER - refused to hand him over. They demanded proof that he was responsible for 9/11 and Bush said he would not be pushed around by demands from anyone. He wanted war and he wanted it right now. He got it.

I head it when Obama said that too - and it really fried my ass.
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  -Taliban Did Not Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden JohnyCanuck  Dec-05-09 07:13 AM   #0 
  - "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)  SpiralHawk   Dec-05-09 07:14 AM   #1 
  - "Sneer." - xVP Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheney (R)  SpiralHawk   Dec-05-09 07:16 AM   #2 
  - I remember it clear as day - it was reported in the news and promptly ignored everywhere  ThomWV   Dec-05-09 07:53 AM   #3 
  - Considering how they didn't make the offer until the war was already underway...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:14 PM   #72 
     - Then you agree with the belligerent ass policy of George Bush.  ThomWV   Dec-05-09 12:46 PM   #83 
        - Let's look at the facts, then you can tell me how legitimate you think the offers really were.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:52 PM   #86 
           - Maybe so, but I would love to hear of the reason behind  truedelphi   Dec-05-09 08:04 PM   #110 
  - Disingenuous much?  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:09 AM   #4 
  - Here's Obama's quote:  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 08:15 AM   #5 
  - yes, I threw something at the tv  WhiteTara   Dec-05-09 08:20 AM   #7 
  - Like I said - disengenuous and apologies for the poor put-upon innocent Taliban  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:23 AM   #9 
  - Who's being disingenuous? I quote Obama - you invoke words he never said. n/t  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 08:28 AM   #10 
  - This is disingenuous "Taliban Did Not Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden"  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:35 AM   #12 
     - I leave it to readers of this thread...  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 08:48 AM   #14 
        - Obama was correct  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:51 AM   #16 
           - You seem to lack reading comprehension  rollingrock   Dec-05-09 11:11 AM   #50 
              - Who in God's name would you expect them to hand him over to?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:17 PM   #75 
  - wait  bigtree   Dec-05-09 08:28 AM   #11 
  - I never misquoted Obama - the OP was an apology for the Taliban  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:37 AM   #13 
     - I don't see it as an apology for the Taliban  bigtree   Dec-05-09 08:51 AM   #15 
        - more Taliban apologies  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:53 AM   #17 
        - oh  bigtree   Dec-05-09 08:55 AM   #18 
        - la la la "I can't hear bigtree" la la la...  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 08:56 AM   #19 
        - "The Taliban didn't attack America." apology #1  jpak   Dec-05-09 08:57 AM   #20 
        - they didn't  bigtree   Dec-05-09 08:58 AM   #22 
        - His World is crumbling.  bvar22   Dec-05-09 10:43 AM   #46 
        - "The Taliban didn't attack America." True Statement...  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 09:00 AM   #23 
        - No, they just harbored and abetted OBL and AQ before and after 9/11  jpak   Dec-05-09 09:05 AM   #28 
           - Bin Laden wasn't a guest of the Taliban...It was the Northern Alliance...  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 09:17 AM   #32 
              - You may want to recheck your facts?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:23 PM   #78 
              - Bullshit, in 2001 the Northern Alliance was besieged by the Taliban and AQ assassinated its leader  jpak   Dec-05-09 03:07 PM   #102 
        - They didn't. Nasty as they are.  aquart   Dec-05-09 09:00 AM   #24 
        - Do you think you can silence people with such smears? nt  spoony   Dec-05-09 11:31 AM   #57 
        - Apology #2  jpak   Dec-05-09 09:03 AM   #26 
           - A small band of thugs knew  bigtree   Dec-05-09 09:04 AM   #27 
              - Yeah - and the rest of the fucking non-thug Taliban were busy blowing up Buddha statues  jpak   Dec-05-09 09:10 AM   #29 
                 - That's not what the authorization to use military force in Afghanistan is about  bigtree   Dec-05-09 09:33 AM   #33 
                    - The Taliban never made any sincere offers to turn OBL over to anyone  jpak   Dec-05-09 09:41 AM   #38 
                       - the 'victim' thing is your own invention  bigtree   Dec-05-09 09:54 AM   #42 
                          - Yemen and germany was where the planning took place  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 11:21 AM   #55 
        - Whoa!  timtom   Dec-05-09 11:39 AM   #63 
        - You sound like Hannity.  Forkboy   Dec-06-09 11:50 AM   #116 
        - Crying over spilt milk.  TicketyBoo   Dec-05-09 11:46 AM   #67 
        - the question goes to the heart of our 'war' against the Taliban, I think  bigtree   Dec-05-09 11:51 AM   #69 
           - Again,  TicketyBoo   Dec-05-09 12:07 PM   #70 
              - I think it's still relevant because of the posture we're taking NOW  bigtree   Dec-05-09 12:15 PM   #74 
                 - But Obama has made his decision.  TicketyBoo   Dec-05-09 08:38 PM   #111 
        - Perhaps, but the other possibility is that it was simply a stall tactic  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:19 PM   #77 
  - What's the name for this logical fallacy?  JackRiddler   Dec-05-09 01:25 PM   #93 
  - As the head of the government of the United States, Obama wasn't speaking...  MilesColtrane   Dec-05-09 09:10 AM   #30 
  - Comprehend much?  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 08:57 AM   #21 
  - It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now  jpak   Dec-05-09 09:13 AM   #31 
  - You're not very bright, are you?  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 09:38 AM   #36 
     - what a stupid post  jpak   Dec-05-09 09:42 AM   #39 
        - I'm glad you're finally realizing how stupid your post was..  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 09:44 AM   #41 
  - Let's take a few facts into consideration here  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:41 PM   #81 
     - The one MAJOR fact that you left out, either purposely or out of ignorance...  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 01:59 PM   #94 
        - So let me make sure I understand your position  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 02:15 PM   #95 
           - You're the one who seems to have a problem understanding facts..  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 02:30 PM   #97 
              - Speaking of reading comprehension  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 02:52 PM   #99 
                 - Yeah, speaking of that...  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 03:50 PM   #103 
                    - We may have to agree to disagree, I'm very firm in my belief on this one.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 04:11 PM   #104 
                       - I guess we will have to do that...  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-05-09 04:53 PM   #105 
  - No, Obama was NOT correct  ixion   Dec-05-09 09:01 AM   #25 
  - Actually  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:43 PM   #82 
  - word games that what we should expect  ThomThom   Dec-05-09 11:32 AM   #59 
  - Nicely put.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:15 PM   #73 
  - thanks for finding the source of info  WhiteTara   Dec-05-09 08:19 AM   #6 
  - SoS Clinton said it the other day, as well  bigtree   Dec-05-09 08:20 AM   #8 
  - I thought Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden too.  philly_bob   Dec-05-09 09:36 AM   #34 
  - Essentially, they did.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:47 PM   #84 
  - " for trial in a country other than the US" -- Sorry, but that was not a serious offer  HamdenRice   Dec-05-09 09:36 AM   #35 
  - did the Taliban even have bin-Laden  bigtree   Dec-05-09 09:39 AM   #37 
  - Yep. Just like Saddam pretended to have WMD in the years before invasion...  Junkdrawer   Dec-05-09 09:44 AM   #40 
  - Probably not in a position, correct. The picture people have of the relationship here is bizarre  HamdenRice   Dec-05-09 10:19 AM   #43 
     - the one thing I would take issue with  bigtree   Dec-05-09 10:40 AM   #45 
        - I agree to a certain extent  HamdenRice   Dec-05-09 10:54 AM   #48 
  - And you know that how?  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 11:15 AM   #51 
  - Not sure I understand your question. It's in the OP  HamdenRice   Dec-05-09 11:38 AM   #61 
     - The thing is, the Taliban was between the devil and the deep blue sea.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 11:47 AM   #68 
        - There was a third way out  HamdenRice   Dec-05-09 12:07 PM   #71 
           - I don't think they had that option.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 12:17 PM   #76 
  - The offer I like best is their first one, that *they* try him for us under Islamic Laq  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 12:53 PM   #87 
  - jpak, get over it  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Dec-05-09 10:30 AM   #44 
  - Taliban made another offer today  bigtree   Dec-05-09 10:46 AM   #47 
  - This is our government lying their asses off and right in our face.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 11:17 AM   #53 
  - While this indicates a possible opening  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 01:01 PM   #91 
     - I just thought it was interesting  bigtree   Dec-05-09 01:06 PM   #92 
  - At that time, I would have refused to turn him over too....  bvar22   Dec-05-09 11:02 AM   #49 
  - Dude, he went on tape and said he did it.. They fucked up  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 11:17 AM   #52 
     - They misudged the hurry Rumsfeld was in to get to Iraq.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 11:20 AM   #54 
     - OBL and the taliban should have been the focus  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 11:27 AM   #56 
        - Omg, we agree on something.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 11:31 AM   #58 
           - Yep. A ground war on their turf is not advantageous to the us  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 11:36 AM   #60 
     - That was long after the formation of the Bush lynch mob.  bvar22   Dec-05-09 11:39 AM   #62 
     - OBL and crew were on the CIA / NSA grid  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 11:42 AM   #65 
        - If they were "on the grid"...  bvar22   Dec-05-09 12:28 PM   #79 
           - Bill also authorized lethal operations  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 12:34 PM   #80 
              - Full On Invasion and Decades long hostile Occupation...  bvar22   Dec-05-09 02:54 PM   #101 
                 - Yep. Killing the right people could  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 10:51 PM   #113 
     - no he did not  ThomThom   Dec-05-09 11:41 AM   #64 
     - que tape...  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 11:44 AM   #66 
        - I did not hear him say he participated in the event in any way.  ThomThom   Dec-06-09 12:54 PM   #118 
           - The legal system covers war and police action (like korea and vietnam). The legal system  Pavulon   Dec-06-09 04:56 PM   #120 
     - Oh, please... not the "he confessed on tape" bullshit  Sebastian Doyle   Dec-05-09 07:32 PM   #109 
        - Who was it? And please dont post some MIHOP shit...(nt)  Pavulon   Dec-06-09 10:22 AM   #114 
           - MIHOP, LIHOP, or the ridiculous "official story" are irrelevant  Sebastian Doyle   Dec-06-09 12:03 PM   #117 
              - Clearly...  Pavulon   Dec-06-09 04:52 PM   #119 
  - But, we refuse to hand over our war criminals to Italy.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-05-09 12:49 PM   #85 
  - Or to Venezuela. Or to Bolivia.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 12:56 PM   #88 
  - Well, Bolivia, Venezuela, and Italy are wimps and won't invade us.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-05-09 01:00 PM   #90 
  - Swing and a miss..(nt)  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 12:57 PM   #89 
     - And the Pavulon team fails to hit the ball in the second inning.  readmoreoften   Dec-05-09 06:20 PM   #107 
        - I am sure gwb will be sent to stand trial in a foreign country...  Pavulon   Dec-05-09 10:49 PM   #112 
  - Reading DU is these days is like watching a train wreck or a car crash  emulatorloo   Dec-05-09 02:20 PM   #96 
  - That's a great example of the facts people believe they know.  EFerrari   Dec-05-09 02:43 PM   #98 
  - I guess I don't know what you mean by "didn't have the authority"  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-05-09 02:54 PM   #100 
  - The administration 'pulled it out' as justification for their latest escalation  bigtree   Dec-05-09 07:27 PM   #108 
  - Yes, no one seems to remember that. /nt  readmoreoften   Dec-05-09 06:17 PM   #106 
  - kick  yurbud   Dec-06-09 10:44 AM   #115 

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