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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #75
79. Oy. I thought I was a "naive, single-issue" voter.
I suggest you research a whole lot of politicians and how their stances on issues have changed - or not - over the years.

Let me know when you find Mr. or Ms. Perfect. I haven't seen one yet. At least not one whose been able to get elected to office.

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  -Has Kucinich ever explained his pro-war vote? XemaSab  Dec-02-09 11:48 AM   #0 
  - Yes: "Man, that was one NASTY ass hangover." n/t  HopeHoops   Dec-02-09 11:51 AM   #1 
  - "The alien's made me do it" ?  Mudoria   Dec-02-09 11:52 AM   #2 
  - He changed his mind? Like he did re: his anti-choice votes?  redqueen   Dec-02-09 11:53 AM   #3 
  - Shhh... Gods don't change their minds.  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:05 PM   #9 
     - I'm to the point now that I'm embarrassed I ever took the guy seriously.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:08 PM   #15 
  - "Oh No You Did-Unt!"  NYC_SKP   Dec-02-09 11:55 AM   #4 
  - You should know by now that DK is never questioned.  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:01 PM   #5 
  - Sanders and McKinney too?  Chulanowa   Dec-02-09 12:02 PM   #6 
  - Before that, you could say that you thought we needed more troops in Afghanistan  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:04 PM   #8 
     - Haha...  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:08 PM   #16 
     - Yeah, funny how that happened.  Chulanowa   Dec-02-09 02:31 PM   #111 
        - "whiter than an irishman's thighs"  redqueen   Dec-02-09 02:35 PM   #112 
           - A long long time ago in a city far, far away...  Chulanowa   Dec-02-09 03:00 PM   #117 
              - God, what a depressing post.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 03:06 PM   #118 
              - I may just do that  Chulanowa   Dec-02-09 03:08 PM   #119 
                 - If you do this, look up what a "magic negro" is  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 04:33 PM   #125 
                    - I'm well aware  Chulanowa   Dec-02-09 10:29 PM   #141 
                       - You mean that Asians and Native Americans  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 11:19 PM   #142 
              - What?  MilesColtrane   Dec-02-09 03:48 PM   #120 
              - Wow  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 04:32 PM   #124 
  - He was Pro-Life then, so it was ok to kill brown ppl on the other side of the world.  berni_mccoy   Dec-02-09 12:03 PM   #7 
  - That was such a fucked up time in the US  Oregone   Dec-02-09 12:05 PM   #10 
  - And this is supposed to justify what exactly?  mmonk   Dec-02-09 12:06 PM   #11 
  - Just how indefensible Obama has become...  Junkdrawer   Dec-02-09 12:07 PM   #14 
     - +1  Individualist   Dec-02-09 12:09 PM   #19 
     - +infinity and beyond!  KG   Dec-02-09 12:24 PM   #39 
  - You just don't understand politics  HughMoran   Dec-02-09 12:07 PM   #12 
  - ***cue the cricketts**  Bobbie Jo   Dec-02-09 12:07 PM   #13 
  - Crow-eating, recovering-Anti-Choice, UFO-Warmonger  berni_mccoy   Dec-02-09 12:09 PM   #18 
     - !  Bobbie Jo   Dec-02-09 12:13 PM   #25 
     - How many points for hitting all those terms?  rudy23   Dec-02-09 12:13 PM   #26 
        - Yeah...that was at least a $30 post.  Bobbie Jo   Dec-02-09 12:18 PM   #33 
        - LOL!  berni_mccoy   Dec-02-09 01:59 PM   #106 
  - Here is the text of the vote  Zodiak   Dec-02-09 12:08 PM   #17 
  - Additional detail.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:36 PM   #49 
     - I read that  Zodiak   Dec-02-09 12:48 PM   #58 
     - You mean the statement I posted in post #20? That statement?  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:42 PM   #98 
        - That would be the statement, yes.  Zodiak   Dec-02-09 02:27 PM   #110 
           - Actually, I'm not really arguing anything.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 02:48 PM   #115 
              - on that I definitely agree n/t  Zodiak   Dec-02-09 04:25 PM   #123 
     - Since it says "He" and is referring directly to B*sh does that mean  harun   Dec-02-09 01:30 PM   #93 
        - It says "the president."  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:44 PM   #100 
           - It says that "he" determines planned  harun   Dec-02-09 01:53 PM   #105 
              - "So what? any president can determine any nation planned it and go to war with anyone for ever?"  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 02:51 PM   #116 
  - Yes, he did. ETA - he said so the day of the vote. Sept 14, press release  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:09 PM   #20 
  - Why didn't Barbara Lee vote for it? n/t  orwell   Dec-02-09 12:14 PM   #27 
  - According to a quote I found on google news from that time frame,  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:20 PM   #35 
     - Doesn't that sound more responsible than Kucinich?  orwell   Dec-02-09 12:31 PM   #43 
        - Barbara Lee never painted her opposition in terms of Bush being a sociopath.  Selatius   Dec-02-09 12:34 PM   #46 
        - He was still anti-choice at the time, that speaks to his judgment as well.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:35 PM   #48 
        - And Obama had Rick Warren give the Inaugural Invocation.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:45 PM   #55 
           - I made my point.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:06 PM   #74 
              - Thanks for putting thoughts in my head that don't exist.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:16 PM   #83 
                 - No, that is not the world I'm looking for.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:18 PM   #86 
                    - Really?  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:24 PM   #91 
                       - Hero.... lol.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:26 PM   #92 
                          - You, too.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:36 PM   #97 
                             - LOL  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:43 PM   #99 
                                - Just keeping up with the traffic...  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:47 PM   #102 
        - 420 Yeas. Why are you zeroing in on but one of them?  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:41 PM   #52 
           - Maybe because the other 419 aren't being held up as models of purity...  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:54 PM   #66 
              - Neither is Kucinich; though you'd have to get your jerking knee out  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:00 PM   #70 
                 - If I hid all of the "DK is a saint!" threads there wouldn't be much to see on here 75% of the time.  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 01:13 PM   #80 
                    - Find one that has my name attached to it. n/t  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:18 PM   #85 
  - Oh please...  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:16 PM   #29 
  - "...he knew what he was voting for." Crystal ball? Tarot cards?  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:22 PM   #37 
     - Barbara Lee saw a problem with it.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:26 PM   #41 
     - During her campaign for president, you mean?  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:31 PM   #42 
        - She didn't ever pretend she hadn't given permission.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:33 PM   #44 
           - Yeah, being asked to account for your votes on the national stage  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:49 PM   #60 
              - I dunno... was she ever so completely anti-choice as Kucinich was?  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:07 PM   #75 
                 - Oy. I thought I was a "naive, single-issue" voter.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:12 PM   #79 
                    - I'm not a single issue voter. I'm citing that as an example.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:15 PM   #82 
                       - No, you're a "looking for perfection" voter. Have fun with that. n/t  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:17 PM   #84 
                          - Reading comprehension. Look into it. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:18 PM   #87 
                             - Persuasive writing...  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:30 PM   #94 
     - That's what I love about posturing...  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:34 PM   #45 
        - It's called politics. It's a game. It's a deadly game.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:55 PM   #67 
           - I'll explain it the same way.  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 01:03 PM   #72 
              - Those are the only options you can think of.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:10 PM   # 
                 - As far as I know, I wasn't a congressman in 2001.  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 01:19 PM   #89 
                    - I guess he's a liar, too? Or you just didn't bother to read his statement?  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:35 PM   #96 
  - You're putting forth facts, context, and depth. I'm not sure this thread is seeking that.  mmonk   Dec-02-09 12:17 PM   #30 
  - Hategasm thread  Echo In Light   Dec-02-09 12:18 PM   #32 
  - Ayup.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:05 PM   #73 
  - Yeah, I know. A little ol' fly in the ointment, am I. n/t  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:23 PM   #38 
  - The OP had enough resolve to find the roll call for H J RES 64  G_j   Dec-02-09 12:35 PM   #47 
     - Consider it the "fox news," ubiquitous question mark in action.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 01:03 PM   #71 
        - Hit and run.  bananas   Dec-02-09 02:36 PM   #113 
           - Good observation. I was busy posting information and didn't notice.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 02:46 PM   #114 
           - I'm home sick today  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 04:48 PM   #129 
  - that was easy  G_j   Dec-02-09 12:19 PM   #34 
  - Or counting on the laziness of others. n/t  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 12:25 PM   #40 
  - That sounds like he knew exactly what he was voting for  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 04:37 PM   #127 
     - He voted to hunt and prosecute; if he's to be taken at his word.  Cerridwen   Dec-02-09 04:50 PM   #130 
  - It was October 2001 for fucks sake  Sebastian Doyle   Dec-02-09 12:11 PM   #21 
  - Hadn't read the PNAC blueprint, nor the PA when that was signed into law  Echo In Light   Dec-02-09 12:13 PM   #24 
  - It's the same war  treestar   Dec-02-09 01:08 PM   #76 
  - I don't see any inconsistency here.  Romulox   Dec-02-09 12:11 PM   #22 
  - See my journal entries about how branding us w/ and bashing Kucinich is the DLC's long term strategy  rudy23   Dec-02-09 12:13 PM   #23 
  - I seriously doubt the DLC gives a flying patootie about Kucinich  tonysam   Dec-02-09 12:48 PM   #59 
     - Exactly. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:51 PM   #63 
     - They sure care about those who would pressure them from the left.  rudy23   Dec-02-09 11:47 PM   #143 
  - Maybe he wanted to get Osama bin Laden? The vote was taken 14 Sept. 2001.  Selatius   Dec-02-09 12:14 PM   #28 
  - Shhhh if you tell people the reason we were in Afghanistan  walldude   Dec-02-09 12:38 PM   #50 
  - Everybody wanted to kick their asses then.  apnu   Dec-02-09 12:42 PM   #53 
     - not everybody- I was one that didn't- and was quite vocal about it  Bluerthanblue   Dec-02-09 01:46 PM   #101 
     - edit- dupe.  Bluerthanblue   Dec-02-09 01:48 PM   #103 
  - This will sink. Don't ever question St. Kucinich! nt  ecstatic   Dec-02-09 12:17 PM   #31 
  - This is an interesting exercise in straining our gnats but swallowing camels.  JVS   Dec-02-09 12:21 PM   #36 
  - I love the patented DU Vocal Minority Double Standard:  Ignis   Dec-02-09 12:40 PM   #51 
  - Please... nobody has a problem with anyone criticizing Obama's choices.  redqueen   Dec-02-09 12:43 PM   #54 
     - "nobody has a problem with anyone criticizing Obama's choices"  Ignis   Dec-02-09 01:10 PM   #78 
        - No, I'll concede now that there are probably equal numbers of assholes  redqueen   Dec-02-09 01:15 PM   #81 
           - So you think this OP is entirely fair and above-board?  Ignis   Dec-02-09 01:51 PM   #104 
              - Am I calling Kucinich names, or making fun of his religion?  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 04:56 PM   #132 
                 - Only if you gave every other (D) Rep the same treatment.  Ignis   Dec-02-09 05:03 PM   #135 
                    - Consistently pro-peace?  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 05:14 PM   #139 
                       - Sorry, I don't speak "Nuh-uh!" (nt)  Ignis   Dec-02-09 05:19 PM   #140 
  - Funny thing: The more Obama screws up, the more the Kucinich bashing team comes out  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-02-09 12:46 PM   #56 
  - Cause and Effect  Echo In Light   Dec-02-09 12:48 PM   #57 
  - A few of us criticize BOTH equally.  tonysam   Dec-02-09 12:49 PM   #61 
  - What did Obama screw up? That's just your opinion nt  ecstatic   Dec-02-09 12:50 PM   #62 
  - It's not "just my opinion" that he's mostly continuing Bush's worst policies  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-02-09 12:54 PM   #65 
     - It is just your shrill opinion. nt  ecstatic   Dec-02-09 01:19 PM   #88 
        - Not when it comes to Afghanistan  subsuelo   Dec-02-09 03:55 PM   #121 
        - "shrill" ...Nice, any other dog whistles in your bag?  Ignis   Dec-02-09 05:05 PM   #136 
  - The funny part is that they actually think this makes Obama look better.  JVS   Dec-02-09 12:52 PM   #64 
  - More like, the more DK worshipers come out to lavish praises on their hero...  LostInAnomie   Dec-02-09 12:57 PM   #68 
  - When did the DK worshippers come out?  PVnRT   Dec-02-09 01:24 PM   #90 
     - Oh, you meant real posts on DU, not just in their heads?  Ignis   Dec-02-09 05:07 PM   #137 
     - They've been hitting this meme since July.  rudy23   Dec-02-09 11:51 PM   #144 
  - Absolutely!  Individualist   Dec-02-09 01:09 PM   #77 
  - I consider myself a true progressive  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 05:01 PM   #134 
  - They see their delusion/desire crumbling and they are understandably concerned.  Greyhound   Dec-02-09 02:17 PM   #109 
  - Obama has screwed up?  XemaSab   Dec-02-09 04:57 PM   #133 
     - By not undoing the Bush policies he could have undone with an executive order  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-02-09 05:09 PM   #138 
  - On December 8th, 1941, Jeanette Rankin casts sole vote against WWII  Ozymanithrax   Dec-02-09 12:58 PM   #69 
  - yes, often  Enrique   Dec-02-09 01:32 PM   #95 
  - Quick, somebody send Him an enlistment link.  Tigermoose   Dec-02-09 02:04 PM   #107 
  - Yes, as shown upthread.  Greyhound   Dec-02-09 02:09 PM   #108 
  - Dennis only became a "progressive" just before he jumped into the 2004 prez race.  Odin2005   Dec-02-09 04:07 PM   #122 
  - voting yes on that one was right  dusmcj   Dec-02-09 04:36 PM   #126 
  - Why would he need to?  Political Heretic   Dec-02-09 04:42 PM   #128 
  - He doesn't and he's never said he did  DemBones DemBones   Dec-02-09 04:55 PM   #131 
  - I think part of what it explains, and without having to ask; is the level of very serious...  bridgit   Dec-03-09 12:23 AM   #145 
  - yes...at the time he believed the government just like the rest of us did..  winyanstaz   Dec-03-09 12:32 AM   #146 
 

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