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Wed Dec-02-09 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #26 |
| 33. Yeah...that was at least a $30 post. |
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...but I guarantee if you got a dollar for every "DLC" usage per post, you could retire today.  |
| -Has Kucinich ever explained his pro-war vote? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 11:48 AM |
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Yes: "Man, that was one NASTY ass hangover." n/t |
HopeHoops |
Dec-02-09 11:51 AM |
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"The alien's made me do it" ? |
Mudoria |
Dec-02-09 11:52 AM |
#2 |
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He changed his mind? Like he did re: his anti-choice votes? |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 11:53 AM |
#3 |
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Shhh... Gods don't change their minds. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:05 PM |
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I'm to the point now that I'm embarrassed I ever took the guy seriously. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:08 PM |
#15 |
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"Oh No You Did-Unt!" |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-02-09 11:55 AM |
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You should know by now that DK is never questioned. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:01 PM |
#5 |
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Sanders and McKinney too? |
Chulanowa |
Dec-02-09 12:02 PM |
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Before that, you could say that you thought we needed more troops in Afghanistan |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:04 PM |
#8 |
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Haha... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:08 PM |
#16 |
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Yeah, funny how that happened. |
Chulanowa |
Dec-02-09 02:31 PM |
#111 |
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"whiter than an irishman's thighs" |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 02:35 PM |
#112 |
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A long long time ago in a city far, far away... |
Chulanowa |
Dec-02-09 03:00 PM |
#117 |
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God, what a depressing post. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 03:06 PM |
#118 |
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I may just do that |
Chulanowa |
Dec-02-09 03:08 PM |
#119 |
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If you do this, look up what a "magic negro" is |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 04:33 PM |
#125 |
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I'm well aware |
Chulanowa |
Dec-02-09 10:29 PM |
#141 |
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You mean that Asians and Native Americans |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 11:19 PM |
#142 |
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What? |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-02-09 03:48 PM |
#120 |
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Wow |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 04:32 PM |
#124 |
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He was Pro-Life then, so it was ok to kill brown ppl on the other side of the world. |
berni_mccoy |
Dec-02-09 12:03 PM |
#7 |
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That was such a fucked up time in the US |
Oregone |
Dec-02-09 12:05 PM |
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And this is supposed to justify what exactly? |
mmonk |
Dec-02-09 12:06 PM |
#11 |
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Just how indefensible Obama has become... |
Junkdrawer |
Dec-02-09 12:07 PM |
#14 |
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+1 |
Individualist |
Dec-02-09 12:09 PM |
#19 |
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+infinity and beyond! |
KG |
Dec-02-09 12:24 PM |
#39 |
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You just don't understand politics |
HughMoran |
Dec-02-09 12:07 PM |
#12 |
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***cue the cricketts** |
Bobbie Jo |
Dec-02-09 12:07 PM |
#13 |
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Crow-eating, recovering-Anti-Choice, UFO-Warmonger |
berni_mccoy |
Dec-02-09 12:09 PM |
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! |
Bobbie Jo |
Dec-02-09 12:13 PM |
#25 |
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How many points for hitting all those terms? |
rudy23 |
Dec-02-09 12:13 PM |
#26 |
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Yeah...that was at least a $30 post. |
Bobbie Jo |
Dec-02-09 12:18 PM |
#33 |
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LOL! |
berni_mccoy |
Dec-02-09 01:59 PM |
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Here is the text of the vote |
Zodiak |
Dec-02-09 12:08 PM |
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Additional detail. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:36 PM |
#49 |
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I read that |
Zodiak |
Dec-02-09 12:48 PM |
#58 |
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You mean the statement I posted in post #20? That statement? |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:42 PM |
#98 |
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That would be the statement, yes. |
Zodiak |
Dec-02-09 02:27 PM |
#110 |
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Actually, I'm not really arguing anything. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 02:48 PM |
#115 |
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on that I definitely agree n/t |
Zodiak |
Dec-02-09 04:25 PM |
#123 |
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Since it says "He" and is referring directly to B*sh does that mean |
harun |
Dec-02-09 01:30 PM |
#93 |
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It says "the president." |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:44 PM |
#100 |
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It says that "he" determines planned |
harun |
Dec-02-09 01:53 PM |
#105 |
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"So what? any president can determine any nation planned it and go to war with anyone for ever?" |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 02:51 PM |
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Yes, he did. ETA - he said so the day of the vote. Sept 14, press release |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:09 PM |
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Why didn't Barbara Lee vote for it? n/t |
orwell |
Dec-02-09 12:14 PM |
#27 |
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According to a quote I found on google news from that time frame, |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:20 PM |
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Doesn't that sound more responsible than Kucinich? |
orwell |
Dec-02-09 12:31 PM |
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Barbara Lee never painted her opposition in terms of Bush being a sociopath. |
Selatius |
Dec-02-09 12:34 PM |
#46 |
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He was still anti-choice at the time, that speaks to his judgment as well. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:35 PM |
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And Obama had Rick Warren give the Inaugural Invocation. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:45 PM |
#55 |
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I made my point. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:06 PM |
#74 |
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Thanks for putting thoughts in my head that don't exist. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:16 PM |
#83 |
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No, that is not the world I'm looking for. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:18 PM |
#86 |
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Really? |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:24 PM |
#91 |
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Hero.... lol. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:26 PM |
#92 |
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You, too. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:36 PM |
#97 |
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LOL |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:43 PM |
#99 |
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Just keeping up with the traffic... |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:47 PM |
#102 |
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420 Yeas. Why are you zeroing in on but one of them? |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:41 PM |
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Maybe because the other 419 aren't being held up as models of purity... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:54 PM |
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Neither is Kucinich; though you'd have to get your jerking knee out |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:00 PM |
#70 |
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If I hid all of the "DK is a saint!" threads there wouldn't be much to see on here 75% of the time. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 01:13 PM |
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Find one that has my name attached to it. n/t |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:18 PM |
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Oh please... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:16 PM |
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"...he knew what he was voting for." Crystal ball? Tarot cards? |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:22 PM |
#37 |
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Barbara Lee saw a problem with it. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:26 PM |
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During her campaign for president, you mean? |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:31 PM |
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She didn't ever pretend she hadn't given permission. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:33 PM |
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Yeah, being asked to account for your votes on the national stage |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:49 PM |
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I dunno... was she ever so completely anti-choice as Kucinich was? |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:07 PM |
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Oy. I thought I was a "naive, single-issue" voter. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:12 PM |
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I'm not a single issue voter. I'm citing that as an example. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:15 PM |
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No, you're a "looking for perfection" voter. Have fun with that. n/t |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:17 PM |
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Reading comprehension. Look into it. (nt) |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:18 PM |
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Persuasive writing... |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:30 PM |
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That's what I love about posturing... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:34 PM |
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It's called politics. It's a game. It's a deadly game. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:55 PM |
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I'll explain it the same way. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 01:03 PM |
#72 |
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Those are the only options you can think of. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:10 PM |
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As far as I know, I wasn't a congressman in 2001. |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 01:19 PM |
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I guess he's a liar, too? Or you just didn't bother to read his statement? |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:35 PM |
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You're putting forth facts, context, and depth. I'm not sure this thread is seeking that. |
mmonk |
Dec-02-09 12:17 PM |
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Hategasm thread |
Echo In Light |
Dec-02-09 12:18 PM |
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Ayup. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:05 PM |
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Yeah, I know. A little ol' fly in the ointment, am I. n/t |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:23 PM |
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The OP had enough resolve to find the roll call for H J RES 64 |
G_j |
Dec-02-09 12:35 PM |
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Consider it the "fox news," ubiquitous question mark in action. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 01:03 PM |
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Hit and run. |
bananas |
Dec-02-09 02:36 PM |
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Good observation. I was busy posting information and didn't notice. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 02:46 PM |
#114 |
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I'm home sick today |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 04:48 PM |
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that was easy |
G_j |
Dec-02-09 12:19 PM |
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Or counting on the laziness of others. n/t |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 12:25 PM |
#40 |
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That sounds like he knew exactly what he was voting for |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 04:37 PM |
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He voted to hunt and prosecute; if he's to be taken at his word. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-02-09 04:50 PM |
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It was October 2001 for fucks sake |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-02-09 12:11 PM |
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Hadn't read the PNAC blueprint, nor the PA when that was signed into law |
Echo In Light |
Dec-02-09 12:13 PM |
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It's the same war |
treestar |
Dec-02-09 01:08 PM |
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I don't see any inconsistency here. |
Romulox |
Dec-02-09 12:11 PM |
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See my journal entries about how branding us w/ and bashing Kucinich is the DLC's long term strategy |
rudy23 |
Dec-02-09 12:13 PM |
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I seriously doubt the DLC gives a flying patootie about Kucinich |
tonysam |
Dec-02-09 12:48 PM |
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Exactly. (nt) |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:51 PM |
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They sure care about those who would pressure them from the left. |
rudy23 |
Dec-02-09 11:47 PM |
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Maybe he wanted to get Osama bin Laden? The vote was taken 14 Sept. 2001. |
Selatius |
Dec-02-09 12:14 PM |
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Shhhh if you tell people the reason we were in Afghanistan |
walldude |
Dec-02-09 12:38 PM |
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Everybody wanted to kick their asses then. |
apnu |
Dec-02-09 12:42 PM |
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not everybody- I was one that didn't- and was quite vocal about it |
Bluerthanblue |
Dec-02-09 01:46 PM |
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edit- dupe. |
Bluerthanblue |
Dec-02-09 01:48 PM |
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This will sink. Don't ever question St. Kucinich! nt |
ecstatic |
Dec-02-09 12:17 PM |
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This is an interesting exercise in straining our gnats but swallowing camels. |
JVS |
Dec-02-09 12:21 PM |
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I love the patented DU Vocal Minority Double Standard: |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 12:40 PM |
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Please... nobody has a problem with anyone criticizing Obama's choices. |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 12:43 PM |
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"nobody has a problem with anyone criticizing Obama's choices" |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 01:10 PM |
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No, I'll concede now that there are probably equal numbers of assholes |
redqueen |
Dec-02-09 01:15 PM |
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So you think this OP is entirely fair and above-board? |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 01:51 PM |
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Am I calling Kucinich names, or making fun of his religion? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 04:56 PM |
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Only if you gave every other (D) Rep the same treatment. |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 05:03 PM |
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Consistently pro-peace? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 05:14 PM |
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Sorry, I don't speak "Nuh-uh!" (nt) |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 05:19 PM |
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Funny thing: The more Obama screws up, the more the Kucinich bashing team comes out |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-02-09 12:46 PM |
#56 |
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Cause and Effect |
Echo In Light |
Dec-02-09 12:48 PM |
#57 |
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A few of us criticize BOTH equally. |
tonysam |
Dec-02-09 12:49 PM |
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What did Obama screw up? That's just your opinion nt |
ecstatic |
Dec-02-09 12:50 PM |
#62 |
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It's not "just my opinion" that he's mostly continuing Bush's worst policies |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-02-09 12:54 PM |
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It is just your shrill opinion. nt |
ecstatic |
Dec-02-09 01:19 PM |
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Not when it comes to Afghanistan |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-09 03:55 PM |
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"shrill" ...Nice, any other dog whistles in your bag? |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 05:05 PM |
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The funny part is that they actually think this makes Obama look better. |
JVS |
Dec-02-09 12:52 PM |
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More like, the more DK worshipers come out to lavish praises on their hero... |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-02-09 12:57 PM |
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When did the DK worshippers come out? |
PVnRT |
Dec-02-09 01:24 PM |
#90 |
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Oh, you meant real posts on DU, not just in their heads? |
Ignis |
Dec-02-09 05:07 PM |
#137 |
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They've been hitting this meme since July. |
rudy23 |
Dec-02-09 11:51 PM |
#144 |
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Absolutely! |
Individualist |
Dec-02-09 01:09 PM |
#77 |
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I consider myself a true progressive |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 05:01 PM |
#134 |
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They see their delusion/desire crumbling and they are understandably concerned. |
Greyhound |
Dec-02-09 02:17 PM |
#109 |
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Obama has screwed up? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 04:57 PM |
#133 |
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By not undoing the Bush policies he could have undone with an executive order |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-02-09 05:09 PM |
#138 |
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On December 8th, 1941, Jeanette Rankin casts sole vote against WWII |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-02-09 12:58 PM |
#69 |
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yes, often |
Enrique |
Dec-02-09 01:32 PM |
#95 |
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Quick, somebody send Him an enlistment link. |
Tigermoose |
Dec-02-09 02:04 PM |
#107 |
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Yes, as shown upthread. |
Greyhound |
Dec-02-09 02:09 PM |
#108 |
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Dennis only became a "progressive" just before he jumped into the 2004 prez race. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-02-09 04:07 PM |
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voting yes on that one was right |
dusmcj |
Dec-02-09 04:36 PM |
#126 |
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Why would he need to? |
Political Heretic |
Dec-02-09 04:42 PM |
#128 |
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He doesn't and he's never said he did |
DemBones DemBones |
Dec-02-09 04:55 PM |
#131 |
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I think part of what it explains, and without having to ask; is the level of very serious... |
bridgit |
Dec-03-09 12:23 AM |
#145 |
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yes...at the time he believed the government just like the rest of us did.. |
winyanstaz |
Dec-03-09 12:32 AM |
#146 |
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