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Mon Nov-30-09 01:19 PM
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| 21. Agreed. It's time to think about a third party that represents traditional |
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Dem platforms if those who run as Democrats continue to abandon them.
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| -Forty percent of Democrats say they ‘probably won’t vote’ in 2010 |
jgraz |
Nov-30-09 01:04 PM |
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Geez! This will kill us |
Taverner |
Nov-30-09 01:05 PM |
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No, bad policy will kill us |
notesdev |
Nov-30-09 01:33 PM |
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We didn't intend to send Republicans to Congress, we aren't about |
BR_Parkway |
Nov-30-09 01:06 PM |
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Well they didn't ask me. |
Frosty1 |
Nov-30-09 01:06 PM |
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They didn't call me either. The Ba$tards! |
TheDebbieDee |
Nov-30-09 01:12 PM |
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+100 |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Nov-30-09 01:37 PM |
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Maybe they should try giving Dems something to vote for other than "not as bad". |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-30-09 01:07 PM |
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They really aren't even giving us 'not as bad' anymore. |
FiveGoodMen |
Nov-30-09 01:10 PM |
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Too true. The proverbial dime has shrunk to less than a nickel. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-30-09 01:22 PM |
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Holy shit you might be on to something! nt |
anonymous171 |
Nov-30-09 05:36 PM |
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No more lesser of two evils votes from me. |
VMI Dem |
Nov-30-09 01:09 PM |
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Agreed. It's time to think about a third party that represents traditional |
Lorien |
Nov-30-09 01:19 PM |
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me either. I will vote |
dana_b |
Nov-30-09 02:00 PM |
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Claiming you won't vote is one way to express disgust about the... |
polichick |
Nov-30-09 01:10 PM |
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So, not voting and allowing people who DEFINITELY won't listen to you back into power is the way |
4lbs |
Nov-30-09 01:12 PM |
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I said it's how they express disgust to pollsters - doesn't mean they won't vote. nt |
polichick |
Nov-30-09 01:15 PM |
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THANK YOU, I AGREE |
katanalori |
Nov-30-09 01:22 PM |
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We already have people who definitely won't listen to us |
Individualist |
Nov-30-09 01:23 PM |
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clearly it's not-- but neither is electing people who don't listen regardless... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 01:32 PM |
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Well if I had to guess, I'd say that the purpose is to make Dem leaders afraid |
Lyric |
Nov-30-09 02:02 PM |
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Don't try putting it upon us. |
Winterblues |
Nov-30-09 03:40 PM |
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the bunch in now definitely won't listen |
mitchtv |
Nov-30-09 03:48 PM |
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Yes, but after the same results again and again, you have to... |
rfranklin |
Nov-30-09 01:12 PM |
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True. After 30+ years of Dem activism, I would become an Independent now... |
polichick |
Nov-30-09 01:17 PM |
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We're a mile wide and an inch thick. |
rucky |
Nov-30-09 01:12 PM |
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They had better start running some real Dems against those Blue Dogs... |
Walk away |
Nov-30-09 01:12 PM |
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+1 |
Lorien |
Nov-30-09 01:16 PM |
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Quite true...Naomi Klein on C-Span today said some very interesting |
whathehell |
Nov-30-09 01:22 PM |
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True |
AndrewP |
Nov-30-09 01:23 PM |
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Do you suppose there's a very real, broad strategy to 'help out' Repubs in order to maintain..... |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 01:24 PM |
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If you know about DLC, you know the answer to your question. |
Individualist |
Nov-30-09 01:32 PM |
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"Mission Accomplished!" |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 01:38 PM |
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I guess the GOP doesn't have a monopoly on teh stoopidz |
slackmaster |
Nov-30-09 01:13 PM |
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or the conformist, sheepish kind. nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-30-09 01:39 PM |
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This is why the republicans want to talk about Afganistan.... |
Tippy |
Nov-30-09 01:13 PM |
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Isn't that actually more than usually vote in mid term elections? nt |
HamdenRice |
Nov-30-09 01:14 PM |
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I will vote but only because my congressman is John Shadegg. Mine is a vote against him not |
saracat |
Nov-30-09 01:15 PM |
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In our system the only way to punish a party that is not serving the people is to |
Ozymanithrax |
Nov-30-09 01:16 PM |
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How would we know the difference (if Rs or Ds are in power)? |
jtrockville |
Nov-30-09 01:21 PM |
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We are considering a health care bill. Republicans would not consider that. |
Ozymanithrax |
Nov-30-09 01:36 PM |
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I disagree. We were considering health INSURANCE reform, but |
jtrockville |
Nov-30-09 02:05 PM |
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This plays right into Obama's hands. He can have his center-right presidency only if |
rudy23 |
Nov-30-09 01:20 PM |
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That will happen when ELECTED Democrats act like Republicans. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Nov-30-09 01:22 PM |
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Expect a manufactured way to 'coax' Americans' eye of that ball!!! |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 01:30 PM |
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Exactly. |
Ganja Ninja |
Nov-30-09 01:42 PM |
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+1 |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-30-09 01:44 PM |
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It gets obvious when the progressives are relegated to the kiddie table after the election |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-30-09 01:37 PM |
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Whether we vote or not, we still end up with Republicans. |
QC |
Nov-30-09 01:38 PM |
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+1 |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-30-09 01:39 PM |
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Obama sure knows how to energize the base with troop increase declarations and all... |
Postman |
Nov-30-09 01:42 PM |
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Lets do a quick review: |
bvar22 |
Nov-30-09 01:42 PM |
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Same policies, different (?) party. |
Individualist |
Nov-30-09 01:46 PM |
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+100000 |
Mari333 |
Nov-30-09 01:57 PM |
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The politics of disappointment |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:43 PM |
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They only vote I am proud of is my vote for Grayson. |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-30-09 01:43 PM |
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Well, if you don't vote in 2010, Grayson will be OUT. |
demodonkey |
Nov-30-09 01:54 PM |
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Or I can just vote for Grayson. nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-30-09 01:54 PM |
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this is exactly what the repigs want us to do. |
bdamomma |
Nov-30-09 01:48 PM |
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Very predictable (and yes it was predicted). |
closeupready |
Nov-30-09 01:51 PM |
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Forty percent of Democrats can go fuck themselves, then |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-09 01:53 PM |
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That's what I said in 1994 |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:56 PM |
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...and still haven't, apparently. |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-09 01:59 PM |
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There is still a way to turn it around and WIN |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 02:21 PM |
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Yep. Older, whiter, more female, home-owning Dems will turn out to vote. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-30-09 02:00 PM |
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Good luck with that. |
jgraz |
Nov-30-09 02:44 PM |
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I didn't say "vote for them." |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-09 02:57 PM |
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You're yelling in the wrong direction |
jgraz |
Nov-30-09 03:27 PM |
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Personally, at some point, I join the ranks of those who don't give a shit. |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-30-09 01:59 PM |
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You think this is the fault of the Democrats who *complain* about Obama? |
jgraz |
Nov-30-09 02:46 PM |
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my job is not always find fault when there's an issue that needs rectifying....... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-30-09 04:22 PM |
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As opposed to just not giving a shit? |
jgraz |
Nov-30-09 04:44 PM |
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Yes, because Bush would never have escalated in Afghanistan. |
closeupready |
Nov-30-09 03:42 PM |
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Which would mean Democratic turnout would be 20 percent HIGHER than usual |
HamdenRice |
Nov-30-09 02:00 PM |
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I think that these numbers are skewed a bit because more people |
WCGreen |
Nov-30-09 02:01 PM |
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I understand their sentiments, but not voting is the LEAST constructive course of action |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-30-09 02:04 PM |
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Great post! I urge you to make it an OP, more people need to read it. |
scarletwoman |
Nov-30-09 05:40 PM |
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Aw shucks! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-30-09 06:02 PM |
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Not voting in 2010 will allow GOP to gerrymander more seats in their favor for the next 10 years... |
demodonkey |
Nov-30-09 02:05 PM |
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Sounds like there's more than one kind of push poll. n/t |
gkhouston |
Nov-30-09 02:06 PM |
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Kinda sheds light on why blue dogs don't bother to stick their necks out |
ecstatic |
Nov-30-09 02:10 PM |
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So this is why they are cowards? |
closeupready |
Nov-30-09 03:50 PM |
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It's probably a vicious cycle |
ecstatic |
Nov-30-09 04:05 PM |
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Probably. |
closeupready |
Nov-30-09 04:12 PM |
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If you're a Democratic precinct chair/organizer, take a peek... |
derby378 |
Nov-30-09 02:14 PM |
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Somehow I can't get excited about voting for Bart Stupak. |
Vidar |
Nov-30-09 02:54 PM |
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You're just not a loyal Democrat. |
jgraz |
Nov-30-09 02:56 PM |
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Holy shit that's awful (but understandable). |
Lord Helmet |
Nov-30-09 03:03 PM |
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Get ready for "WhiteWater II - The ACORN Years" |
zbdent |
Nov-30-09 03:18 PM |
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i fear you are right, if the thugs take back the house, but that is unlikely |
seeinfweggos |
Nov-30-09 05:29 PM |
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I beg to differ ... Obama does not have the "liberal media" on his side ... |
zbdent |
Dec-02-09 05:30 AM |
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The New Math: 81 = 3 X 56. And 168% of Repubs plan to vote. |
hvn_nbr_2 |
Nov-30-09 03:31 PM |
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Related thread |
Danascot |
Nov-30-09 03:44 PM |
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At this point, I'm staying home for the first time in more than 30 years. |
asdjrocky |
Nov-30-09 03:52 PM |
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I'll probably vote dem but It doesn't matter since I live in the South East |
Geek_Girl |
Nov-30-09 03:54 PM |
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thats got to be a tremendous relief |
bkozumplik |
Nov-30-09 04:09 PM |
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It doesn't matter anymore. Both parties are fucked up. Fucking war pigs. |
L0oniX |
Nov-30-09 04:10 PM |
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Agree - there is really no difference. It's all fucking smoke and mirrors nt |
Thickasabrick |
Nov-30-09 05:11 PM |
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I don't think its an enthusiasm gap |
Kid Dynamite |
Nov-30-09 05:10 PM |
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2010 |
Robbins |
Nov-30-09 05:12 PM |
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i am already sizing up candidates in the primaries |
seeinfweggos |
Nov-30-09 05:41 PM |
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I will be voting in local elections, but the national dems can |
Q3JR4 |
Dec-01-09 07:31 PM |
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Who would an actual Democrat vote for anyway? |
branders seine |
Dec-01-09 07:36 PM |
#101 |
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