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| 5. I don't see this as "escalation", if sending in 40,000 troops will enable us |
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to end this stupid endeavor.
What do you guys want - just turn out the lights and go home? It does not work that way - If the war ended yesterday, it would take at least a year to get everyone out and would onel stop US from fighting. The people there would go right on.
This war in Afghanistan is actually legitimate compared to the farce in Iraq.
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| -do you support escalation of the war against Afghanistan? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:18 PM |
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Oppose (nt) |
bigwillq |
Nov-30-09 12:18 PM |
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Shit no, I do not support it. |
tekisui |
Nov-30-09 12:20 PM |
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Unrec for loaded question nt |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-30-09 12:21 PM |
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would you please offer suggestions for improvement? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:23 PM |
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Unrec for asking questions |
Oregone |
Nov-30-09 12:26 PM |
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LOL! |
Kaleva |
Nov-30-09 02:07 PM |
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Clearly you don't understand the situation in the Middle East... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 12:33 PM |
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ahh-- is this the basis for your objection below? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:36 PM |
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I don't yet know his reasons or plan... nor do you... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 03:32 PM |
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I don't make a hobby out of Obama bashing but there is enough information |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 03:48 PM |
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You don't know for sure that this is what's happening... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 05:47 PM |
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If that happens I'll eat my keyboard. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 07:54 PM |
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You might have to dip it in chocolate.... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 08:18 PM |
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But that's exactly what I said and what others have predicted. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 08:57 PM |
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the poll asks whether DUers support escalation or not-- irrespective of Obama's... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 03:49 PM |
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Bullshit... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 05:45 PM |
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It's not a war "against" Afghanistan, and it's not "escalation" |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-30-09 01:00 PM |
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well, the additional troops are going SOMEWHERE... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 01:14 PM |
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How is sending 34,000 additional troops "not an escalation"? |
Flaneur |
Nov-30-09 02:04 PM |
#47 |
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When it's a calculated plan to get us out once and for all... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 03:34 PM |
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ahh-- the "fucking for virginity" argument.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 04:28 PM |
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Bullshit... bullshit... bullshit, with a side of extra crispy straw man... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 05:48 PM |
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Hear, hear! |
Individualist |
Nov-30-09 08:21 PM |
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"we are not there to dispose of the government" |
Oregone |
Nov-30-09 02:29 PM |
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Plus we haven't heard Obama speak to this... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 03:31 PM |
#60 |
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the poll is to solicit DUers opinions, not Obama's.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 03:53 PM |
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Sorry, the poll is bullshit... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 05:43 PM |
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good idea-- let's give those arguments a week or so to sink in... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 04:41 PM |
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I'm down... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 05:42 PM |
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no worries-- I'll PM in a week or so.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 05:52 PM |
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Right. It's really ending the war, de-escalation and bringing the troops home! War is Peace! |
Better Believe It |
Nov-30-09 03:35 PM |
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The dishonesty, it burns. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 03:39 PM |
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Since the President calls it a 'war' over and over, I think we can call it a 'war'. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-30-09 03:42 PM |
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we haven't 'declared' war against any nation since '41. |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-01-09 06:00 AM |
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Nail meet hammar |
Caretha |
Dec-01-09 07:29 AM |
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Rec against douchebags |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 09:46 PM |
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+1 (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Dec-06-09 07:37 PM |
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would the folks voting "Other" please explain their meaning? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:21 PM |
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I don't see this as "escalation", if sending in 40,000 troops will enable us |
old mark |
Nov-30-09 12:23 PM |
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you think the additional troops will end the war? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:27 PM |
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I do. I also think it will make troops in country marginally safer. |
quiller4 |
Nov-30-09 05:27 PM |
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yes, it's time to turn out the lights and leave |
unabelladonna |
Nov-30-09 01:31 PM |
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I agree with you there, but it won't happen that way. |
old mark |
Nov-30-09 01:35 PM |
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escalations are always to 'end the war'. |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-01-09 06:02 AM |
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I oppose and always have opposed. |
enlightenment |
Nov-30-09 12:23 PM |
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Wonder how many escalation supporters would answer honestly, your question? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-30-09 12:41 PM |
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yes, it would be... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:42 PM |
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True. |
enlightenment |
Nov-30-09 02:09 PM |
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It's also "consistent" with McCains campaign statements. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-30-09 12:23 PM |
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an excellent point.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:24 PM |
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Oppose militarization, period |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 12:24 PM |
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+1 n/t |
malaise |
Nov-30-09 05:07 PM |
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But, but...he made a campaign PROMISE! |
Oregone |
Nov-30-09 12:25 PM |
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I can't say that I do or do not support it. |
Cant trust em |
Nov-30-09 12:27 PM |
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thank you.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:29 PM |
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Yes, Obama made history in November 2008. He can do whatever he wants. n/t |
newtothegame |
Nov-30-09 12:27 PM |
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No |
BeFree |
Nov-30-09 12:28 PM |
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Yeah... we should outlaw sarees just in case... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 12:32 PM |
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You are assuming that Al Qaeda would reuse old tactics. |
MilesColtrane |
Nov-30-09 12:33 PM |
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So |
BeFree |
Nov-30-09 12:35 PM |
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1) Nobody knows. |
MilesColtrane |
Nov-30-09 01:38 PM |
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War against Afghanistan? |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 12:29 PM |
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please clarify.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 12:34 PM |
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There is no war against Afghanistan... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 03:30 PM |
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Try telling that to the Afghans. |
Flaneur |
Nov-30-09 03:33 PM |
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Pointless statement... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 03:36 PM |
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Do you think our "smart" bombs only hit al Qaida "strongholds" |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 03:41 PM |
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This kind of thing helps no one... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-30-09 05:40 PM |
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That's a distinction without a difference. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 08:19 PM |
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then WHERE are we spending all that money and sending all those troops to die? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 04:02 PM |
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Absolutely do NOT support, and nothing he says will change that. |
closeupready |
Nov-30-09 12:34 PM |
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No. |
chill_wind |
Nov-30-09 12:34 PM |
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No troops. Bring them home. |
immoderate |
Nov-30-09 12:51 PM |
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I oppose all wars that are not in ACTUAL defense of the United States of America |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-30-09 12:53 PM |
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Thank you. Me too. Exactly. |
Sparky 1 |
Nov-30-09 09:55 PM |
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Other: I'm waiting to hear what Obama's strategy will be before I make my mind up |
Turborama |
Nov-30-09 01:05 PM |
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have you seen this post? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 01:09 PM |
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Yes I have and that's why I said "definitive" |
Turborama |
Nov-30-09 01:39 PM |
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No, no, a thousand times, no. |
StarfarerBill |
Nov-30-09 01:06 PM |
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The USA resembles NAZI Germany more and more every day. |
Octafish |
Nov-30-09 01:19 PM |
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There's great potential for learning here, although I have my doubts... |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 01:32 PM |
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we're running about 5 to 1 in opposition to escalating the war, so far.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 01:29 PM |
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Strong support? From what I have seen since I've been here, DU is strongly anti- the Afghanistan war |
Turborama |
Nov-30-09 01:47 PM |
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I've had a number of discussions recently in which DUers expressed... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 01:50 PM |
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Poll results here can be trusted as much as any on line poll. |
Kaleva |
Nov-30-09 02:13 PM |
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is there another way to guage the sentiment of DUers...? |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 02:19 PM |
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Given the margin, I'd say the poll is pretty suggestive as you say. |
Kaleva |
Nov-30-09 02:52 PM |
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I don't see sending additional and necessary troops as escalation |
quiller4 |
Nov-30-09 01:34 PM |
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he is not limited to the options presented to him--he's president. |
yurbud |
Nov-30-09 02:01 PM |
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unless all the options are genuinely bad.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 02:12 PM |
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like Vietnam. Nixon continued the war for five more years then took the deal North offered LBJ |
yurbud |
Nov-30-09 02:58 PM |
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an excellent analogy, IMO.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 04:06 PM |
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It is a pretty simple word with a pretty clear meaning. |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-01-09 06:03 AM |
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OPPOSE. |
Soylent Brice |
Nov-30-09 02:24 PM |
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I'm for immediate withdrawal of our troops there. Not being able to |
Vidar |
Nov-30-09 02:37 PM |
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Oppose. |
redwitch |
Nov-30-09 02:59 PM |
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We're not fighting a "war against Afghanistan". We prop up the bogus government of Afghanistan. |
laststeamtrain |
Nov-30-09 03:32 PM |
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I disagree.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 04:11 PM |
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Right on, Mike. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-09 03:39 PM |
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War is Terrorism with a Bigger Budget |
leftstreet |
Nov-30-09 03:43 PM |
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"Politics is the shadow cast by big business over society." — John Dewey |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 03:55 PM |
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Thoroughly and completely oppose, Professor Mike |
Nikki Stone1 |
Nov-30-09 03:48 PM |
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FUCK NO! ...damn it all to hell ...fuckin stupid ass mutha fuckas |
L0oniX |
Nov-30-09 04:02 PM |
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still running nearly six to one opposed, with 1000 views, 138 votes, and 80 replies.... |
mike_c |
Nov-30-09 04:22 PM |
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OPPOSE |
Eyerish |
Nov-30-09 04:54 PM |
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Excellent question |
rollingrock |
Nov-30-09 05:31 PM |
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Hell No! |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Nov-30-09 08:22 PM |
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Self delete... |
Cid_B |
Nov-30-09 09:43 PM |
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Oppose strongly! |
donheld |
Nov-30-09 10:32 PM |
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i'm with you |
barbtries |
Dec-01-09 02:09 AM |
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dup |
yodoobo |
Dec-01-09 03:25 AM |
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Other - I Support Obama's decision |
yodoobo |
Dec-01-09 03:25 AM |
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whatever you are smoking, please pass me some |
Skittles |
Dec-01-09 03:28 AM |
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I chose "other" ... |
gleaner |
Dec-01-09 04:16 AM |
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Go back to basic English... |
hayu_lol |
Dec-01-09 06:58 AM |
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Thanks for your concern .... |
gleaner |
Dec-01-09 06:09 PM |
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War! Good God you all. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. |
RedCloud |
Dec-01-09 07:32 AM |
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War means tears to thousands of mothers eyes |
DesertRat |
Dec-02-09 09:34 PM |
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-- |
mdmc |
Dec-06-09 06:55 PM |
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Oppose, unless the 30k troops are used to help facilitate an immediate withdrawal. |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-06-09 07:01 PM |
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good to see this..i was beginning to think du had become an unrecognizable site.. |
xiamiam |
Dec-06-09 07:06 PM |
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