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Mon Nov-30-09 05:05 AM
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| 7. Also, show the left some respect by not trying to SELL it |
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We aren't republicans, so words about 9/11, al-qaeda boogeymen, terrorists hate us because we are free, dead or alive, finish the job, will not change 1 person's mind. The bloodthirsty chickenhawks of the center and right are ALREADY sold. So show us some respect for once and don't attempt to sell it to us.
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| -An Open Letter to President Obama from Michael Moore |
unapatriciated |
Nov-30-09 04:45 AM |
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Michael Moore under the bus by the corporocrats in 3--2---1 n/t |
AllentownJake |
Nov-30-09 04:48 AM |
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He has been under that bus and resurrected many a time here. |
unapatriciated |
Nov-30-09 05:00 AM |
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His bus status changes from one moment to the next. n/t |
QC |
Nov-30-09 08:07 AM |
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Schrodinger's Bus Wheels? |
boppers |
Nov-30-09 11:16 PM |
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k&r |
Swamp Rat |
Nov-30-09 04:49 AM |
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the k and the r |
SpiralHawk |
Nov-30-09 04:52 AM |
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K and R |
ClayZ |
Nov-30-09 04:53 AM |
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Hope |
Little Star |
Nov-30-09 04:55 AM |
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+1 ...K&R |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Nov-30-09 07:53 PM |
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Also, show the left some respect by not trying to SELL it |
optimator |
Nov-30-09 05:05 AM |
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+1 'Don't attempt to sell it to us' |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-30-09 01:57 PM |
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I expect President Obama to frame it |
Enthusiast |
Dec-01-09 05:14 AM |
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If you're dead set on... |
snake in the grass |
Nov-30-09 05:17 AM |
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I'll just leave this here. |
Jkid |
Nov-30-09 05:27 PM |
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I agree, Snake. But it's the collateral damage here at home that I'm worried about. |
bertman |
Nov-30-09 09:22 PM |
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I worry about that too, but... |
snake in the grass |
Dec-01-09 06:25 AM |
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"There never was a good war, or a bad peace"...Benjamin Franklin |
sad sally |
Dec-01-09 04:16 PM |
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+1 |
roody |
Nov-30-09 10:33 PM |
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Brief history of Afghanistan by Adam Ritscher. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Nov-30-09 05:59 AM |
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Glad you posted that. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Nov-30-09 06:26 AM |
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The US does have a tendency towards tunnel vision when it comes to the rest of the world. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Nov-30-09 07:33 AM |
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Second dixiegrrrl's comments. |
bertman |
Nov-30-09 09:33 PM |
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Obama promised during the campaign that he would increase the number of troops in Afghanistan |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 06:13 AM |
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"War of Necessity" |
Firstzar |
Nov-30-09 06:19 AM |
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does that mean you HAVE to agree with the stance? |
Djinn |
Nov-30-09 06:51 AM |
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No, but it is disingenuous to suggest that Obama supporters would become |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 07:49 AM |
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The party is a coalition |
AllentownJake |
Nov-30-09 08:05 AM |
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The lack of a viable "no war choice" shows you which part of the coalition is stronger |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 09:44 AM |
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The 25% that has no problem voting GOP |
AllentownJake |
Nov-30-09 09:51 AM |
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Obama got over 50% of the delegates |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 08:09 PM |
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Yes, many moneyed "blue dogs" are invested in the War Machine's private corporations |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-30-09 09:53 AM |
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If most Democrats believed that conspiracy theory BS, Obama never would have won the nomination |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 08:11 PM |
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Withdrawing is the ONLY choice. Congress has NOT declared war. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-30-09 09:51 AM |
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Does It Matter If Things Have Changed Since The Campaign?? More Than Ever |
ChiciB1 |
Nov-30-09 09:01 PM |
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exactly. n/t |
OhioBlue |
Nov-30-09 10:30 PM |
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The "disillusioned cycnics" thoght it wrong then and thus have not chnaged. |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-30-09 08:36 AM |
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So, they must have been quite cynical to vote for a candidate who did not share their views |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 09:48 AM |
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I think the expression was in 2008 |
AllentownJake |
Nov-30-09 10:05 AM |
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Obama didn't become the nominee by accident |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 11:14 AM |
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He sure did while hammering his only viable opponents |
AllentownJake |
Nov-30-09 11:15 AM |
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He stated that the war in Iraq was a mistake and that the war in Afghanistan, although poorly waged, |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 08:17 PM |
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I was among his supporters |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-30-09 02:20 PM |
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What specifically am I rewriting about history? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 08:20 PM |
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He was remarkably non specific. |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-30-09 08:44 PM |
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Freddie, Obama won on hope, youth, diplomacy and the economy, stupid |
Mithreal |
Dec-01-09 03:41 AM |
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And Now It Will Be "His War!" And The Election Is Over! None Of Us Dared |
ChiciB1 |
Nov-30-09 09:10 PM |
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He's already increased the troops, putting an additional 24 000 of them there. |
truedelphi |
Nov-30-09 07:10 PM |
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Apperently he does not believe that the notion of that war is flawed |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-30-09 08:08 PM |
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So? "Yes, We Can" or "I Got This"? Can't stand the folks who |
Mithreal |
Dec-01-09 03:29 PM |
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I am happy to say that I did not donate a penny to him. |
roody |
Nov-30-09 10:35 PM |
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You are still an asshole! |
JanMichael |
Nov-30-09 10:40 PM |
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Obama also said he was against DUMB wars. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-30-09 10:43 PM |
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I'm sure that's what got him elected... |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-30-09 11:56 PM |
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Despite rhetoric, any & all US presidents are hired/installed to be the next "war president." |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 06:18 AM |
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President Kill has no interest in hippie talk. |
Karmadillo |
Nov-30-09 06:33 AM |
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So who should we believe: Michael Moore or Pres. Obama? |
QC |
Nov-30-09 08:38 AM |
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That is a little over-simplistic, aye. The FACT is that al Qaeda is no longer in Afghanistan. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-30-09 09:49 AM |
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Well, let's see... |
Dr. Strange |
Nov-30-09 10:44 AM |
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LMFAO! |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-30-09 11:18 AM |
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Michael Moore |
blindpig |
Nov-30-09 11:29 AM |
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Yes, but he's certainly not as dreamy as you know who! n/t |
QC |
Nov-30-09 02:18 PM |
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Let them eat Job Summits! |
Karmadillo |
Nov-30-09 04:54 PM |
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Could someone tinker with QC's picture? |
DerekG |
Nov-30-09 05:15 PM |
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done |
wuushew |
Nov-30-09 11:33 PM |
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Much obliged, wuushew |
DerekG |
Dec-01-09 12:31 AM |
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I would dearly love to see that as an OP |
Prism |
Dec-01-09 01:56 PM |
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wow - quite excellent. perfectly captures the moment. |
scentopine |
Dec-01-09 10:28 PM |
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How about believing history |
tinrobot |
Nov-30-09 11:07 PM |
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Was just reading an astonishing comment about a report on the BBC . . . |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 12:20 AM |
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This will be the final nail of hubris |
Jakes Progress |
Nov-30-09 09:59 AM |
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Repubs are Counting On Obama Increasing Troops To Ensure Can't Lose Status For Them... |
Blackhatjack |
Nov-30-09 10:30 AM |
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Do you mean his hard decisions |
Kid Dynamite |
Nov-30-09 05:36 PM |
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Its no secret Bush/Cheney destroyed everything and now Repubs are blaming Obama for it... |
Blackhatjack |
Dec-01-09 12:51 PM |
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kick |
babydollhead |
Nov-30-09 10:39 AM |
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K&R |
AVID |
Nov-30-09 11:33 AM |
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Obama can do what he wants. He made history. All the magazines say so. n/t |
newtothegame |
Nov-30-09 12:36 PM |
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K&R for MM. |
bvar22 |
Nov-30-09 01:13 PM |
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Kick! |
QC |
Nov-30-09 01:30 PM |
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It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. |
mod mom |
Nov-30-09 01:50 PM |
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It ain't just the generals we hate, Michael. |
robertpaulsen |
Nov-30-09 02:11 PM |
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final nail |
branders seine |
Nov-30-09 05:04 PM |
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# 90 rec . . . |
Krashkopf |
Nov-30-09 08:03 PM |
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Excellent! |
Clear Blue Sky |
Nov-30-09 09:33 PM |
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War - The Stimulus Package for the Rest of Us |
scentopine |
Nov-30-09 09:34 PM |
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Cannot stand the word caucasian |
thegoodfight |
Dec-01-09 12:50 AM |
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You know you are right - my fingers were flying, its quite awkward -nt |
scentopine |
Dec-01-09 08:25 PM |
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+1 |
dreamnightwind |
Dec-01-09 12:55 AM |
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President Obama, if you're hellbent on listening to the generals, here are two you should |
bertman |
Nov-30-09 09:49 PM |
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Allegedly, Eisenhower's original speech script was written... |
woodcarver |
Nov-30-09 11:05 PM |
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As I hear it ... it was the MIIC . . . including "Intelligence Complex" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 12:23 AM |
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Connected to the CIA? Even if true, unsure what it means. |
Mithreal |
Dec-01-09 05:03 AM |
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If not "connected to" the CIA certainly influenced heavily by it. As is every President |
bertman |
Dec-01-09 11:15 AM |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Nov-30-09 09:59 PM |
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K&R |
bluesmail |
Nov-30-09 10:08 PM |
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but EVIL lurks everywhere and we need to point big guns at herdsmen! |
mullard12ax7 |
Nov-30-09 10:37 PM |
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Great letter-but Moore forgot to ask Obama to give that so called "peace prize" back. nt |
earth mom |
Nov-30-09 11:13 PM |
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Amazing that you can run two wars and get the "peace prize" . . .!!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 12:25 AM |
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The kicker is: 100,000 troops to chase 100 al Qaeda members in Afghanistan & 300 in Pakistan |
earth mom |
Dec-01-09 01:02 AM |
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Plus US/CIA created Taliban/Al Qaeda . .. financed it . . . used it to bait |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 01:53 AM |
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Democratic Kick. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-30-09 11:26 PM |
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Thanks for posting this... |
MrMickeysMom |
Nov-30-09 11:59 PM |
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Comments from . . . |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 12:13 AM |
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And just a PS on the second comment . . . "What did we do?" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 01:57 AM |
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Nice try, Michael -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-09 12:17 AM |
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Could someone please post one of those lists of all the great things Obama has done because I'm |
garybeck |
Dec-01-09 12:50 AM |
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It may be a mistake to think common sense or the rule of law have anything to do with this. |
omega minimo |
Dec-01-09 01:01 AM |
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Come on people! It's a CHESS MOVE! |
leftstreet |
Dec-01-09 01:02 AM |
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Vulcan chess, no less! n/t |
QC |
Dec-01-09 07:46 AM |
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Well said! I totally agree with you. |
earcandle |
Dec-01-09 01:18 AM |
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I'm confused... |
dreamnightwind |
Dec-01-09 01:29 AM |
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this post is pure distilled awesomeness |
bring_em_home_bush |
Dec-01-09 03:18 PM |
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Thank you, that made my day! eom |
dreamnightwind |
Dec-03-09 12:26 AM |
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Silly Michael |
Autonomy |
Dec-01-09 01:43 AM |
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It seems to be the only campaign promise |
rollingrock |
Dec-01-09 02:12 AM |
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Untrue |
Autonomy |
Dec-01-09 10:06 AM |
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I've thought about the Afghanistan |
Enthusiast |
Dec-01-09 05:25 AM |
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I Agree |
yellowwood |
Dec-01-09 05:38 AM |
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Oy you too Mike? |
Egnever |
Dec-01-09 05:52 AM |
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So the generals are always for the war? |
treestar |
Dec-01-09 11:17 AM |
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