| -If you believe Pit Bulls are inherently dangerous animals, & you support BSL to ban them |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:24 PM |
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I can pull my 9 lb rat terrier off my ankle. |
donco6 |
Nov-29-09 10:28 PM |
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If you were a responsible dog owner who trained them properly you wouldn't have to. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:30 PM |
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The world is full of irresponsible dog owners. |
donco6 |
Nov-29-09 10:33 PM |
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I don't believe that it is in the breed, but more in the owners of the breed.... |
LakeSamish706 |
Nov-29-09 10:41 PM |
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not always |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:32 AM |
#164 |
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Nope. |
donco6 |
Nov-30-09 04:06 PM |
#341 |
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my ex's undisciplined terriesr shattered cat's leg, bit kid in face and on penis |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:37 PM |
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but they should have kids? |
ThomThom |
Nov-30-09 01:50 PM |
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BUT SOCIETY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COUNT ON --- |
smalll |
Nov-30-09 12:09 AM |
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Ban all dogs of what size? Serious question. |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:17 AM |
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Name removed |
Nov-30-09 12:30 AM |
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Stop compensating for your misanthropy with love of pitbulls. |
smalll |
Nov-30-09 12:33 AM |
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Can we extend that to Dick Cheney? |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Nov-30-09 12:33 AM |
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Why not? We count on people to be responsible car drivers |
Bonn1997 |
Nov-30-09 04:49 AM |
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agree |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 05:46 AM |
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Can you pull your 9# rat terrier off a little girl's throat? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:16 PM |
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The problem isn't the dog breed - it's the irresponsible owner. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:21 PM |
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I know, was hoping donco might like to tell me more of his/her hatred of large dogs |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:32 PM |
#55 |
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+1 |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Nov-30-09 12:31 AM |
#101 |
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Agreed |
meow2u3 |
Nov-30-09 10:24 AM |
#210 |
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Training proves premeditation. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:25 PM |
#234 |
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I don't support any bans. |
donco6 |
Nov-30-09 09:02 AM |
#182 |
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What I'm saying is simple. |
donco6 |
Nov-30-09 04:03 PM |
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Very true. |
flvegan |
Dec-01-09 01:49 AM |
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get a "Moses" |
thenooch |
Nov-30-09 12:47 AM |
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Actually, most pure-bred pit bulls aren't anywhere near that big, maybe 40-50 lbs. |
nomorenomore08 |
Nov-30-09 01:19 AM |
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Then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able |
lukasahero |
Nov-30-09 08:04 AM |
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Should we ban all large dogs? My brothers girlfriend has a 110 newfie |
EndersDame |
Nov-30-09 08:55 AM |
#180 |
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That was my question as well. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 12:21 PM |
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If it's 90lb |
guitar man |
Nov-30-09 09:51 AM |
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It is and always has been the owners that are the problem with pets.... |
LakeSamish706 |
Nov-29-09 10:28 PM |
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You and your facts! |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 10:28 PM |
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My friend owns 3 very large pit bulls |
rcrush |
Nov-29-09 10:30 PM |
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That's what the always say about the latest pitbull that rips the face off some baby -- |
smalll |
Nov-30-09 12:37 AM |
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Rather like this one: Family Pit Bull Kills 11-Month Old Child in Eastpointe |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:59 AM |
#120 |
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So much for "it's always some bad owner's fault." |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 01:17 AM |
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It never ceases to amaze me how some can't accept the simplest of concepts |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:22 AM |
#128 |
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"He's never done anything like this before!" |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 01:26 AM |
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And as has been mentioned in many of the cases reported in the Portland area |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 02:13 AM |
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Until we start charging dog owners criminally, we won't be able to stop this carnage. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 02:18 AM |
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I'm not entirely comfortable with removing the scienter in some of these cases |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 02:34 AM |
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exactly - and here is one further case from just a few days ago |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:35 AM |
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You mean like this...? |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 01:29 AM |
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Sometimes the problem lies with the individual dog |
meow2u3 |
Nov-30-09 10:45 AM |
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Cite your source for that quote, please. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-30-09 07:58 AM |
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That's what they always say about the latest pitbull that rips the face off some baby -- |
smalll |
Nov-30-09 12:37 AM |
#107 |
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That wasn't particularly worth repeating. Or editing. nt |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:44 AM |
#112 |
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here's another - just a couple of days ago |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:37 AM |
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I am sure this family felt the same way a week ago |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:33 AM |
#165 |
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thank you |
dana_b |
Nov-29-09 10:30 PM |
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I have a really bad pitbull phobia. But that's my problem, not theirs |
EFerrari |
Nov-29-09 10:32 PM |
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Thank you very much. You, as always, demonstrate the good sense to |
Greyhound |
Nov-30-09 12:25 AM |
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Sorry these dogs are trained to be violent. |
rwheeler31 |
Nov-29-09 10:32 PM |
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The vast majority are trained to be pets, and are not violent. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:36 PM |
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Any protection breed walking loose is a concern, and I'm a Rottie person. |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 10:54 PM |
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BTW, if you go to the big dog park, all of these breeds will surprise you. I play with a Presa... |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 10:57 PM |
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I don't think you should allow your kids to be outside with ANY dog loose. |
GOPisEvil |
Nov-29-09 11:11 PM |
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Even more, they are BRED to be violent -- |
smalll |
Nov-30-09 12:12 AM |
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The vast majority are BRED to be pets, and are not violent. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:20 AM |
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Thanks for your sane approach and courage to speak it. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 01:23 AM |
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Who does the training? |
EndersDame |
Nov-30-09 08:55 AM |
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I know of several |
marketcrazy1 |
Nov-29-09 10:33 PM |
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I looked to see if I could find any news stories about deadly attacks by basset hounds. |
noamnety |
Nov-29-09 10:34 PM |
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Because virtualy any dog involved in an attack that has four legs is described as a "Pit Bull". |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:38 PM |
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The pit bull's owner was walking it, and it broke its leash. |
noamnety |
Nov-29-09 10:44 PM |
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As I suspected, the elderly neighbor was the expert witness consulted for the breed identification. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:01 PM |
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"even though the newspaper identifies it as a pit bull"Therein lies a BIG problem, here's some picts |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:26 PM |
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The media always jumps on stories about pit bull or Rottweiler attacks. |
RebelOne |
Nov-30-09 06:41 AM |
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It used to be Shepherds and Dobies |
lukasahero |
Nov-30-09 12:32 PM |
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Some facts about pit bulls: |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 10:54 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-29-09 11:02 PM |
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Links? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:06 PM |
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Oh, watch out. |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 11:13 PM |
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Thats covered in page 4-5 of my first link. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:27 PM |
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Here's a hint for you: it's not the bite- but the severity of injuries |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:19 AM |
#86 |
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Pages 6-7 |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:54 AM |
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38.5% were regarded as serious (requiring medical attention) ! |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:10 AM |
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This result was not statistically significant. {Because the designation of "Pit Bull" in the report |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 01:27 AM |
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Actually, your point re: the 4 related breeds strengthens the argument against these types of animal |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 02:06 AM |
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#'s for a group of 4 is > #s for a group of 1, therefore any 1 of that group of 4 is > than that |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 03:08 AM |
#151 |
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WTF are you talking about? |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 03:13 PM |
#317 |
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Read it again. Others are single, "pit bull" is a grouping of 4. Read it again |
uppityperson |
Dec-01-09 03:47 AM |
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Without a source, those are not any "facts" but an opion. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:14 PM |
#39 |
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Did you forget to link to the article that is from?... |
SidDithers |
Nov-29-09 11:16 PM |
#41 |
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You know, people do get involved in other things and forget to add the link every now and again |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 11:21 PM |
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That's why I asked if you had forgotten...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-29-09 11:27 PM |
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Yes, it is a breed created to fight to the death, and achieve it quickly. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 11:52 PM |
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Accurate - if you ignore about 400 yrs of breeding history. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:07 AM |
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Statistical validity is not the media's job. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:06 AM |
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My brother has a Pit Bull and it is a sweetheart n/t |
doc03 |
Nov-29-09 10:34 PM |
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Would be nice if we could just ban irresponsible pet owners instead |
cowcommander |
Nov-29-09 10:35 PM |
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+ 1000000 |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 02:49 AM |
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My guess is that Pits are probably the most inbred dogs around right now |
Gman |
Nov-29-09 10:35 PM |
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So, a few dogs cause problems when they get inbred & abused - genocide is a solution? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:43 PM |
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Yep |
Gman |
Nov-30-09 08:19 AM |
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Then, we should get rid of Chows, Labs, Rottis, Huskys & Poodles too. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:47 AM |
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So, based on your "guess" we should execute them all? |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 10:44 PM |
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Yeah, but the homeowners insurance folks are making trouble. |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 10:59 PM |
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Gun ownership is a right, and we regulate their ownership much more closely. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 11:56 PM |
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I think that all pit bulls should be fused into a single, huge pit bull |
Orrex |
Nov-29-09 10:48 PM |
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We need to ban pitbulls, guns, and pitbulls with guns - then utopia will be here.... |
The Straight Story |
Nov-29-09 10:50 PM |
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How about guns that shoot Pit Bulls? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:09 PM |
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Thank you! People are so woefully ignorant. |
camio |
Nov-29-09 10:51 PM |
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Pit Bulls have gotten a really unfair rap |
sweetroxie |
Nov-29-09 10:54 PM |
#24 |
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I had a pit bull terrier as a pig dog... |
shaayecanaan |
Nov-29-09 10:54 PM |
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But they are "just oversized drooling kittens" |
Strelnikov_ |
Nov-29-09 11:03 PM |
#32 |
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My mother had a Silky |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:17 PM |
#43 |
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Yep, you heard it hear. |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-30-09 08:17 AM |
#175 |
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Givin no training - yes. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:49 AM |
#194 |
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"There is no documented case that a single, spayed/neutered American Pit Bull Terrier,..." |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:12 PM |
#37 |
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Fair few weasel words there... |
shaayecanaan |
Nov-29-09 11:44 PM |
#63 |
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Anecdotal reports are worthless, because 90% of the time the breed is misidentified. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:55 PM |
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Exactly what I was seeing. The report has everything so qualified as to not |
Better Today |
Nov-30-09 12:04 AM |
#74 |
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And most news reports on the issue are so broad as to be meaningless. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:24 AM |
#92 |
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I guess peer reviewed research doesn't count in fatalities and maulings |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:12 AM |
#81 |
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Peer reviewed? |
flvegan |
Nov-30-09 12:25 AM |
#95 |
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A link to "CDC has rescinded every last bit of opinion" |
Better Today |
Nov-30-09 12:43 AM |
#111 |
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Not a problem. |
flvegan |
Nov-30-09 01:38 AM |
#135 |
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That's a criticism of study methodology (data gathering) |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:44 AM |
#136 |
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They admit to using "media accounts". That alone tells us this report is |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:17 AM |
#158 |
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If the methodology is faulty the conclusion fails. |
JoeyT |
Nov-30-09 06:30 AM |
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Correct. A study with flawed methodology stinks of a political agenda. |
TZ |
Nov-30-09 02:06 PM |
#274 |
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If the problem is data gathering/methodology... then the problem |
CBR |
Nov-30-09 12:41 PM |
#238 |
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And ill-conceived "reports' like this are used to push through equally ill-conceived BSL bans. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 01:44 PM |
#266 |
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Your argument: since perfect and infallibly discrete data doesn't exist- we can't even acknoledge |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 03:21 PM |
#324 |
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You bastard!!! I |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-29-09 11:05 PM |
#33 |
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I love how Petey attacked and killed all the Little Rascals. |
GOPisEvil |
Nov-29-09 11:14 PM |
#40 |
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AKC American Staffordshire Terrier vs. UKC American Pit Bull Terrier specs |
meow2u3 |
Nov-30-09 10:37 AM |
#213 |
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The ankle biters are the mean ones around here |
Irishonly |
Nov-29-09 11:17 PM |
#44 |
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One of my sisters had a pit bull who was one of the most gentle |
SeattleGirl |
Nov-29-09 11:17 PM |
#45 |
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Just spent the day visiting L.A. city shelters...so many Pit Bulls. I love them! |
astonamous |
Nov-29-09 11:19 PM |
#46 |
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Hope you enjoy lawsuits, too |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 11:29 PM |
#53 |
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Which feeds the misinformed hype. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:36 PM |
#57 |
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You're promoting an inherently dangerous breed- and every senseble objective person knows it |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 11:59 PM |
#73 |
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There's probably a reason you aren't an underwriter or landlord. |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:04 AM |
#75 |
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Wouldn't want to be an underwriter- boring as hell- but I've reported to many |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:24 AM |
#93 |
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Being in public health, I think law is more cynical. But then I'm not a lawyer |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:40 AM |
#109 |
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Working on women's and family health policy issues during the Bush Administration |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:48 AM |
#115 |
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I have worked on that, and many other things. We are cynical, but still think |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:54 AM |
#118 |
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Just subtlety |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:07 AM |
#123 |
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Are you a dog expert? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:28 AM |
#99 |
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I know how to distinguish credible material and analyze matters like this objectively |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:36 AM |
#104 |
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Apparently not, since your keep referring to the CDC report that's been discredited & withdrawn. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 01:03 AM |
#122 |
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Errr- no, it hasn't been withdrawn |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:37 AM |
#134 |
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The CDC's Dog Bite Fact Sheet (rev Apr 1, 2008) disgrees with you |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 11:05 AM |
#217 |
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How many times are you going to use that same rationalization? |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:59 PM |
#245 |
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And how many times will you use the same biased, misleading & discredited hearsay? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 01:57 PM |
#271 |
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You can fuss and holler all you want- make all sorts of ridiculous claims |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 05:14 PM |
#365 |
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So, the CDC, the Humane Society, the AVA, every reputable peer-reviewed study |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 05:46 PM |
#371 |
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Here are some ACTUAL studies on the effectiveness of BSL |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 05:49 PM |
#372 |
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You can cite all of the sophistry that you like- pit bulls are on the way out |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 06:44 PM |
#385 |
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Melodramatically overreact much? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:47 PM |
#386 |
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Just letting you know what's going to happen |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 07:04 PM |
#392 |
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It's official. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 07:05 PM |
#393 |
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Serious questions. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 09:05 PM |
#396 |
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So.. you think that he American Bar, The ASPCA, MSU's college of Law and an independant researcher |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 07:03 PM |
#390 |
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I think your study doesn't adress the issue |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 09:19 PM |
#397 |
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www.dogbitelaw.com can't POSSIBLY be biased in any way |
dropkickpa |
Dec-01-09 07:02 AM |
#409 |
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my empirical evidence... |
treygoba66 |
Nov-29-09 11:26 PM |
#50 |
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And just how did you identify these dogs? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:32 PM |
#56 |
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.. |
Strelnikov_ |
Nov-29-09 11:41 PM |
#61 |
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And just how did YOU identify these dogs? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:47 PM |
#64 |
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They looked just like this dog. |
Strelnikov_ |
Nov-29-09 11:48 PM |
#66 |
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And this one |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:13 AM |
#82 |
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No. They looked like this one. n/t |
Strelnikov_ |
Nov-30-09 12:15 AM |
#83 |
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They came with labels? Wow! |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:22 AM |
#90 |
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I don't understand your comment. n/t |
Strelnikov_ |
Nov-30-09 12:25 AM |
#94 |
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Look at your post "they look like this" |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:27 AM |
#98 |
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No idea if people label their dogs as to breed. Spray paint? |
Strelnikov_ |
Nov-30-09 12:37 AM |
#105 |
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My sister... |
kirby |
Nov-29-09 11:31 PM |
#54 |
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And what sort of training did your sister engage in with the mother dog? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:37 PM |
#60 |
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But the poster did not say |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-30-09 08:35 AM |
#177 |
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And what training occured? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:45 AM |
#192 |
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That I do not know... |
kirby |
Nov-30-09 10:04 AM |
#201 |
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Every dog needs to be trained by it's owner. Period. No exceptions. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:28 AM |
#211 |
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Well, I would say that my |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-01-09 06:11 AM |
#404 |
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Not even Pomeranians are an exception. Complacency and a false sense of security with any breed can |
PeaceNikki |
Dec-01-09 06:27 AM |
#407 |
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All Pomeranians are not created equal. |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-01-09 11:00 AM |
#416 |
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Maybe a PET LICENSE should be required... |
kirby |
Nov-30-09 10:30 AM |
#212 |
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I wouldn't be opposed to that. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:03 PM |
#225 |
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They used to require a license here |
TicketyBoo |
Dec-01-09 06:14 AM |
#405 |
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Thanks for telling of an incident of an unprovoked attack by a family "pet." |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 12:11 AM |
#79 |
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What's unnatural is expecting it to always do that, no matter the circumstances. |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:20 AM |
#88 |
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I used to own a collie-lab and one of her sons by a beagle |
hfojvt |
Nov-30-09 02:17 AM |
#145 |
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"There is no documented case that a single, spayed/neutered American Pit Bull Terrier,..." |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 11:36 PM |
#58 |
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StBernard stalked me once, scared the crap out of me |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:43 PM |
#62 |
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I have no doubt there are exceptions to all preconceptions, my bad. Generally |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 11:52 PM |
#69 |
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I was a kid, thought StBernards were Rescue dogs, safe ones, this one |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 11:54 PM |
#70 |
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Learn the difference between a "family" dog and a "resident" dog. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 11:47 PM |
#65 |
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No, there are many family dogs living indoors with the family, that are not single |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 11:50 PM |
#67 |
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Look at the sentance immediatly before the one you've cherry-picked. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:18 AM |
#85 |
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results from a "positive and humane" upbringing |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:58 AM |
#170 |
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No toddler should be left alone with ANY dog, EVER. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:16 AM |
#185 |
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particularly this breed |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 11:25 AM |
#223 |
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Particularly ANY breed. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:10 PM |
#228 |
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why would that surprise me |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 12:30 PM |
#236 |
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Well, you're not calling for the mass sterilization & elimination of any groups of people |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:51 PM |
#242 |
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I am not calling for mass sterilization and elimination of dogs in general |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:27 PM |
#252 |
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What dogs? Molossers? Terriers? Mastiffs? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:02 PM |
#273 |
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I applaud you for the wise course you've chosen with your animals. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 12:20 AM |
#87 |
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I guess your myopathy is only limited to Pit Bulls, huh? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:40 AM |
#108 |
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Sure. doncha know, wolf hyrbrids are a WiseChoie of Pet, much more so than |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:46 AM |
#113 |
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Thank you for your applause, I do try to be an excellent, careful owner for |
Better Today |
Nov-30-09 12:51 AM |
#116 |
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You're very wise to group the big animal with more family friendly dogs. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 01:11 AM |
#125 |
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all the pit bulls I've ever known have been overly-loving |
Skittles |
Nov-30-09 12:05 AM |
#76 |
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K&R. Here's an interesting site for the terminally frightened. |
Greyhound |
Nov-30-09 12:23 AM |
#91 |
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And another..., and another. |
uppityperson |
Nov-30-09 12:26 AM |
#97 |
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Picture > 1000 words |
travelingtypist |
Nov-30-09 12:42 AM |
#110 |
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+1000 |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:58 AM |
#119 |
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They sure are: (warning- very graphic) |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:59 AM |
#140 |
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That post should be required viewing for pit bull advocates. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 02:12 AM |
#142 |
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I've seen even worse ones than that... |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 02:19 AM |
#147 |
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Again, no proof of the breed. |
JoeyT |
Nov-30-09 06:34 AM |
#161 |
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Any large dog is capable of doing the same type of damage. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 08:53 AM |
#179 |
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All I can tell you is that I have the most adorable, 8# Shitzu |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Nov-30-09 01:02 AM |
#121 |
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Great post. Kick and Rec. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-30-09 01:32 AM |
#133 |
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You gotta love the story upthread re: Dad who used his gun on the pit bull that killed his baby |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:51 AM |
#137 |
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Seriously go see a doctor. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-30-09 02:16 AM |
#144 |
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Can we ban Jack Russels? |
Prophet 451 |
Nov-30-09 01:55 AM |
#138 |
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Right on |
jasperilla |
Nov-30-09 01:57 AM |
#139 |
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You know what causes MOST dogs to attack most of the time? |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 02:38 AM |
#149 |
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Yes - a natural propensity to attack, bad owners, and the opportunity to attack. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 03:34 AM |
#152 |
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And every dog has a "natural propensity to attack" |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:31 AM |
#189 |
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this darned 18-month old little girl should have known better |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:53 AM |
#168 |
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Oooo, you should totally spam this thread with that link!! That would be cool. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 07:58 AM |
#169 |
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just want to make sure EVERYONE knows what happened to this little girl |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:59 AM |
#172 |
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The breed makes no difference. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:55 AM |
#197 |
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sure it does - if not, why are the majority of these attacks attributable to pit bulls |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 11:25 AM |
#222 |
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If the animal has four legs and a tail, the media attributes it to a pit bull. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:05 PM |
#226 |
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isn't that just a little bit of a stretch . . . |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:35 PM |
#259 |
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Not really. How many "news" reports do you see about all those 90-lb Pit Bulls running around? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:07 PM |
#275 |
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I honestly cannot remember any that described a breed and it's weight |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:11 PM |
#280 |
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No. Not a stretch. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:10 PM |
#279 |
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read the subject line - "if an animal has four legs and a tail" - the media attributes it to a |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:21 PM |
#288 |
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Just as coloring every "Pit Bull type" dog a man-eating monster is. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 03:14 PM |
#318 |
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you are starting to lose it my friend |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:17 PM |
#322 |
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You don't like one generalization, but you're perfectly happy promoting another. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 03:51 PM |
#334 |
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It's the parents' responsibility to watch their kids until the kids |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 01:20 PM |
#249 |
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The constant propogation of media hype, irrational fear and the need to make a "boogie man" |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 01:23 PM |
#251 |
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When I was grooming dogs, it was the cocker spaniels who went nuts |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 01:43 PM |
#265 |
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oops - dupe |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:30 PM |
#254 |
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yep - as I said - that 18-month old should have known better |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:30 PM |
#255 |
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No dog should be left unattended with a toddler or an infant. Ever. No exceptions. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 01:41 PM |
#261 |
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why do you assume I do not understand that |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:42 PM |
#263 |
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oh yeah - there was this mentioned from the article |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:44 PM |
#267 |
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I keep bringing it up because you obviously don't understand it. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:10 PM |
#277 |
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well - I have never seen a dog leashed inside a house |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:12 PM |
#282 |
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No. You're 100% wrong Training and proper supervision. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:13 PM |
#284 |
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and you know of course that this dog was improperly trained |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:23 PM |
#289 |
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Umm... anyone with an IQ larger than the temperature in Wisconsin today can deduct that. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:28 PM |
#292 |
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please tell me what you see in the article that I am missing that |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:39 PM |
#297 |
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It would not have happened if the child was properly supervised and the dog properly trained. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:40 PM |
#298 |
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please tell me EXACTLY how this dog was improperly trained or improperly supervised |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:43 PM |
#299 |
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It would not have happened if the child was properly supervised and the dog properly trained. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:43 PM |
#300 |
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exactly as I thought . . . there is NOTHING pointing to improper traininig or supervision |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:45 PM |
#302 |
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The dog was "the baby" of the house. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 04:49 PM |
#360 |
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I agree I was at the dog park and this mom let her little brat kick dogs! |
EndersDame |
Nov-30-09 09:04 AM |
#183 |
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That kid is cruising for a serious bruising. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 01:23 PM |
#250 |
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Sometimes it's the kids' fault, sometimes the dog just gets worked up |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-30-09 09:20 AM |
#187 |
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Please call Animal Control and report the dog. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 09:44 AM |
#191 |
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Well, got a call back, she says the dog was vaccinated |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-30-09 01:13 PM |
#248 |
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Owner's responsability. They should have the vacc tag on the dog & proof of vacc readily available. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:00 AM |
#199 |
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I am quite nervous about pit bulls |
Chemisse |
Nov-30-09 05:58 AM |
#155 |
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+1000 |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 09:23 AM |
#188 |
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It seems most of the pit bull stories you hear |
Chemisse |
Nov-30-09 04:50 PM |
#362 |
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Some of the owners of such dogs have them as an aesthetic extension of their macho assholery |
Echo In Light |
Nov-30-09 06:12 AM |
#157 |
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True. And that applies to women, as well as men, owners. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 01:32 PM |
#256 |
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We need to NOT use emotion to influence public policy |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:26 AM |
#159 |
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Quiet, You! |
BakedAtAMileHigh |
Nov-30-09 08:36 AM |
#178 |
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yeah - no ticking time bomb here - great family dogs - "signal like other dogs" |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 07:30 AM |
#163 |
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The breed makes no difference. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:03 AM |
#200 |
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of course it does - and the public is becoming more aware with each vicious attack |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 11:26 AM |
#224 |
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Unbiased studies prove otherwise. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:19 PM |
#230 |
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go tell it to this 18-month old |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 12:27 PM |
#235 |
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I don't believe that at all. |
LWolf |
Nov-30-09 08:04 AM |
#173 |
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The owner needs to control the dog. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:05 AM |
#202 |
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That would be nice. |
LWolf |
Dec-02-09 07:05 AM |
#417 |
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I will say it most pit bulls I know are friendly than most small dogs |
EndersDame |
Nov-30-09 09:15 AM |
#184 |
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Small dogs can be dangerous to larger dogs too. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 02:59 PM |
#309 |
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Man effed up the canine gene pool... |
Dappleganger |
Nov-30-09 09:19 AM |
#186 |
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Also unfortunately, bad upbringing can subvert the breeding of ANY dog. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:08 AM |
#203 |
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That is my only concern with any dog |
Blasphemer |
Nov-30-09 10:18 AM |
#207 |
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If they only attacked their owner.... |
cark |
Nov-30-09 09:42 AM |
#190 |
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Don't forget that some of the strongest "advocates" are often puppy mill breeders. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-30-09 09:57 AM |
#198 |
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It's a fashion among SOME to have a badass dog. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:17 AM |
#205 |
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Worthless Breeds |
cark |
Nov-30-09 01:48 PM |
#269 |
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Damn those worthless dogs! |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:49 PM |
#303 |
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You say that like you think a golden retriever would never attack anyone. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 03:05 PM |
#312 |
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Sometimes they get their owner too. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 10:18 AM |
#206 |
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hmm "freeperish denial", "assholes"? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 10:21 AM |
#208 |
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The breed makes no difference. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 10:24 AM |
#209 |
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Now show me some stories of those breeds taking down and killing an adult. That's my point. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 10:51 AM |
#215 |
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Yeah, keep using the media stories of sensationalism to hype up the irrational fear. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 10:54 AM |
#216 |
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That's such a crock of shit. I'm talking about fatalities of, specifically, adults. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 11:05 AM |
#218 |
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Um... no, it's a fact. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 11:08 AM |
#219 |
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Then you should be able to produce SEVERAL links to stories about .. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 11:18 AM |
#220 |
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Shut up?? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 12:15 PM |
#229 |
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Basically- yeah- you're promoting dangerous and sometimes deadlyy brhavior |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 12:46 PM |
#240 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-30-09 12:48 PM |
#241 |
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What? It's *almost* noon on the West Coast. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:56 PM |
#243 |
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I don't feel the need to insult folks- just counteract those advocating dangerous practices |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:06 PM |
#246 |
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Yes, you've been a real peach. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 01:09 PM |
#247 |
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Uninformed media hype |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:07 PM |
#227 |
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I don't get this place. Collectively DU doesn't trust the media, but on this topic they choose to |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 12:21 PM |
#231 |
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Because you don't understand- and refuse to accept how the media works |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:33 PM |
#257 |
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You keep pointing to individual stories. That's not statistical data. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:00 PM |
#272 |
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LOL. I wonder how much more of my time I should waste on your bullshit links. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 12:23 PM |
#233 |
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They're the same kind of media reports as those refering to "Pit Bulls" |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 12:46 PM |
#239 |
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You are not making any sense at this point. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 12:57 PM |
#244 |
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If you deny the plain evidence laid in front of you, you're hopeless. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:52 PM |
#305 |
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LOL. We agree on that. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-30-09 06:53 PM |
#388 |
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1 out of every 3 dogs in the shelter I volunteer in is a Pit Bull |
meow2u3 |
Nov-30-09 09:53 AM |
#196 |
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one more case of these playful little guys and their high-energy fun |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:34 PM |
#258 |
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Yep, its tragic when dog owners don't supervise their dog properly. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:55 PM |
#307 |
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the dog was raised from birth - slept with the owner |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:07 PM |
#313 |
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Treated like a baby - and got jealous when a new baby showed up. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 03:58 PM |
#337 |
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the new baby was 18 months old |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:14 PM |
#345 |
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You think any dog should just "know" not to defend its position in the pack |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 07:04 PM |
#391 |
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I think they're beautiful dogs |
Bryn |
Nov-30-09 10:09 AM |
#204 |
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All someone has to do is volunteer in an animal shelter, if they really want to be informed. |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 11:22 AM |
#221 |
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tell this 18-month old about their beauty |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:41 PM |
#262 |
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Why don't you tell my younger sister |
TZ |
Nov-30-09 02:10 PM |
#278 |
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of course they can . . . and I surely feel sorry for your younger sister |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:17 PM |
#286 |
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You should post that as a reply to EVERY comment on this thread. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:12 PM |
#281 |
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why are you trying to make this personal???????????????? |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:25 PM |
#291 |
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Why do you feel it necessary to propogate irrational fear????????????? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:30 PM |
#293 |
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I think all of denial I see in this thread is creepy |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:36 PM |
#295 |
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You're fear-mongering. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:39 PM |
#296 |
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and I see the denial as irrational and illogical . . . .and creepy |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:44 PM |
#301 |
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To believe one breed of dog possesses all of the negative traits associated with the species |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 04:09 PM |
#342 |
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you are now starting to make up stuff |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:15 PM |
#347 |
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Are you kidding? That's the ENTIRE idea that Pit Bull bans are based upon. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 05:58 PM |
#373 |
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your denial of facts is so obvious - like the RWers, you will continue to |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 06:08 PM |
#374 |
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Facts. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:12 PM |
#377 |
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The facts don't support BSL laws. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 06:25 PM |
#379 |
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your analogy is ludicrous |
DrDan |
Dec-01-09 07:51 AM |
#414 |
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The page was unavailable. Is it safe to assume it was pics of a PB attack on a baby? |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 03:35 PM |
#327 |
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I never said that - why make up crap |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:41 PM |
#329 |
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Really? REALLY???? Do you really want to go there? |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 03:48 PM |
#332 |
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show me where I said to ban all dogs |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:50 PM |
#333 |
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Look at your last post. You said that pit bulls have earned their reputation |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 03:55 PM |
#336 |
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yes they have - now show me where I said to ban all dogs |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:13 PM |
#344 |
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Uh - who accused you of saying that? |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 04:20 PM |
#349 |
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you |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:23 PM |
#351 |
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I guess you don't understand the expression "by your metric". |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 04:26 PM |
#353 |
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I certainly do - and speaking of backpedalling - I guess we are seeing a bit of it now |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:30 PM |
#355 |
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Get back to me after you've learned some reading comprehension skills. Kthxbai. |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 04:35 PM |
#357 |
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did I ever say get rid of all dogs? |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:25 PM |
#352 |
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You want to get rid of one race of dogs - the Pit Bull |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 05:36 PM |
#369 |
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I had two pitbulls and they were the best dogs ever. Very protective. |
bamacrat |
Nov-30-09 01:29 PM |
#253 |
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yep - here is proof of their gentle temperamant |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:39 PM |
#260 |
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Is that the 3rd or 4th time you've posted that link? |
ceile |
Nov-30-09 01:42 PM |
#264 |
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I think EVERYONE should be aware of the vicious attack on this 18-month old |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 01:46 PM |
#268 |
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I think everyone should be aware of the family poodle |
TZ |
Nov-30-09 02:12 PM |
#283 |
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oh really - so all dogs have the same strength as a pit bull |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:13 PM |
#285 |
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It's not only about strength. n/t |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 02:54 PM |
#306 |
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of course it is not ONLY strength |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:03 PM |
#311 |
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Bullshit. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-30-09 03:10 PM |
#314 |
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so - these dogs are not stronger than most other breeds? |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:15 PM |
#320 |
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This is Wendy. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 05:11 PM |
#364 |
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There are a TON of breeds stronger than any pit. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 05:18 PM |
#366 |
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Dude, seriously, have you ever SEEN a Mastiff? |
lukasahero |
Nov-30-09 07:00 PM |
#389 |
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A mastiff? Isn't that some sort of big rock or something? |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 07:41 PM |
#395 |
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I have |
DrDan |
Dec-01-09 04:56 AM |
#402 |
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Every one of those assertions is false. THEY ARE LIES. |
baldguy |
Dec-01-09 07:26 AM |
#410 |
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He quoted a 13 year old article |
PeaceNikki |
Dec-01-09 07:30 AM |
#411 |
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HA!! HA!! HA!! Keep exploring that site and you will see that WHOLE article refuted with facts |
PeaceNikki |
Dec-01-09 07:33 AM |
#412 |
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Nice find |
lukasahero |
Dec-01-09 08:54 AM |
#415 |
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And everyone should be aware that its the worst kind of disingenuousness |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 02:58 PM |
#308 |
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WHAT????? |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 03:12 PM |
#316 |
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It's simply ghoulish to post it repeatedly. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 04:21 PM |
#350 |
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yeah - that little girl did not really get bitten |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:28 PM |
#354 |
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Nobody ever said that pit bulls are not capable of violence. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 04:33 PM |
#356 |
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your continued claim of "fear mongering" is really quite funny |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 04:39 PM |
#358 |
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A single event is not scientific proof that they are "vicious animals". |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 04:40 PM |
#359 |
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nor will all the anecdotal evidence attempting to "prove" how harmless these |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 06:11 PM |
#376 |
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Facts about BSL |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:13 PM |
#378 |
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How about cats, they kill babies too. |
bamacrat |
Nov-30-09 02:18 PM |
#287 |
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banning this breed is not wrong - imo |
DrDan |
Nov-30-09 02:24 PM |
#290 |
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Opinions are like assholes. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 02:32 PM |
#294 |
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Only if one doesn't like them |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 02:51 PM |
#304 |
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Yes, the world will be filled with rainbows and unicorns and lillipops. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 03:12 PM |
#315 |
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One thing it won't be in Australia- is full of pitbulls |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 03:37 PM |
#328 |
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Point me to a single study that shows BSL is effective. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 03:53 PM |
#335 |
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You remind me of people who refuse to solve all sorts of problems |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 04:50 PM |
#361 |
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Seriously, point me to any study that shows BSL is effective. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 04:52 PM |
#363 |
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Here are some studies on BSL |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 05:42 PM |
#370 |
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Also. Point me to a single study that shows BSL is effective. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 03:15 PM |
#319 |
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Dude. They've banned Pit Bulls |
TZ |
Nov-30-09 03:16 PM |
#321 |
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Eventually, as policies are adopted uniformly, enforced and awareness is increased |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 03:28 PM |
#325 |
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The bans in Australia began in 1995. They have proven ineffective. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 06:33 PM |
#380 |
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You'll just pull anything out of your ass, won't you? |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 06:37 PM |
#381 |
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Point me to a single study that shows BSL is effective. G'head. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:41 PM |
#382 |
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No, it's called compiling relevant documents and *READING*. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 06:44 PM |
#384 |
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It's called confirmation bias and an inability to think objectively |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 06:49 PM |
#387 |
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So, the SPCA, Michigan State University, the ABA, the National Canine Research Council, |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 07:36 PM |
#394 |
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Cats kill babies? |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-30-09 03:17 PM |
#323 |
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Yeah if they sleep in the crib with them sometimes they will lay on the babies face.... |
bamacrat |
Dec-01-09 01:46 AM |
#399 |
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Old wives' tale. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-01-09 07:37 AM |
#413 |
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I wonder if a Toy Fox Terrier has ever killed anyone? |
Vickers |
Nov-30-09 02:07 PM |
#276 |
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Again, it's tragic - and thankfully rare - but it does happen. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 03:30 PM |
#326 |
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Not a Jack Russell, a Toy Fox Terrier. |
Vickers |
Nov-30-09 03:45 PM |
#330 |
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My mothers 9-lb Silky attacked & killed a 15-lb cat |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 04:15 PM |
#346 |
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This sounds like any pro hand gun post |
Johonny |
Nov-30-09 03:00 PM |
#310 |
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Yorkies are "safe" - *IF* properly trained. |
baldguy |
Nov-30-09 04:02 PM |
#338 |
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I've had a Pomeranian attack me once |
MrScorpio |
Nov-30-09 03:46 PM |
#331 |
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This thread gets more and more entertaining. |
flvegan |
Nov-30-09 04:03 PM |
#339 |
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Epic, even. |
BeachBaby |
Nov-30-09 04:13 PM |
#343 |
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Yeap. |
janx |
Nov-30-09 04:17 PM |
#348 |
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I can't believe it's still going on! |
dana_b |
Nov-30-09 05:28 PM |
#368 |
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My neighbor has the sweetest pitbull. |
AllieB |
Nov-30-09 05:18 PM |
#367 |
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My Am Staff is also afraid of loud noises and my 2 cats. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-30-09 06:09 PM |
#375 |
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My next door neighbor had one of those... |
janx |
Nov-30-09 06:43 PM |
#383 |
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This is what I do to Pit bulls. |
roody |
Nov-30-09 10:01 PM |
#398 |
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Yes |
yellowwood |
Dec-01-09 05:56 AM |
#403 |
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Pit bulls are used as psychiatric service dogs to assist severe depressives. |
DailyGrind51 |
Dec-01-09 06:18 AM |
#406 |
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Fear-driven bans are always a bad idea. |
chrisa |
Dec-01-09 06:48 AM |
#408 |