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I'm wrong. I understand you don't want debate.
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| -Will you be ashamed? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:27 AM |
#0 |
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Unrec for unempirical histrionics |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-29-09 01:33 AM |
#1 |
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No, you won't. These things are happening *NOW*. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:38 AM |
#3 |
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So, it's happening *NOW*, but you're warning me about 50 years from now |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-29-09 01:44 AM |
#8 |
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Empty? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:49 AM |
#10 |
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Please, Doctor. Do you know with whom you are debating? |
Greyhound |
Nov-29-09 04:09 AM |
#17 |
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In case you don't know, Doc, you're arguing with one named after a fictional football player who... |
11 Bravo |
Nov-30-09 09:14 PM |
#179 |
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Well... isn't that sumpin' |
The Doctor. |
Dec-06-09 07:40 PM |
#203 |
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EMPTY? what world are you living in? |
sojourner |
Nov-29-09 10:10 AM |
#59 |
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It's bringing them out nicely. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:13 AM |
#64 |
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i know. posted on a different topic and could not believe number of DUers who came out . |
sojourner |
Nov-29-09 10:21 AM |
#68 |
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I guess I'm not a good enough person not to wish them harm, then. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:25 PM |
#186 |
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I'm FURIOUS. They've helped destroy my son's future. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:24 PM |
#185 |
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Even if we do something it won't look the as it does now. Be real. |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 02:29 AM |
#13 |
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I'm childless, therefore grandchildless. You WILL forget that. |
NoSheep |
Nov-29-09 01:37 AM |
#2 |
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This IS to the freepers. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:40 AM |
#5 |
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I guess you do! btw, your subject line didn't warn me you were talking to freepers. |
NoSheep |
Nov-29-09 01:44 AM |
#7 |
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Sorry... I thought the part about the denialists was enough. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:46 AM |
#9 |
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No need - There's enough denialists on DU |
Dead_Parrot |
Nov-29-09 03:18 AM |
#16 |
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I'm shocked at the numbers just in this thread. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:53 AM |
#52 |
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I think it's a safe assumption that you are speaking to us because you put it on |
tavalon |
Nov-29-09 03:04 AM |
#15 |
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Apologies... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:16 AM |
#21 |
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Yes. |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 09:40 AM |
#43 |
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Is that a joke? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:42 AM |
#46 |
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It's not a joke. |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 10:04 AM |
#54 |
  -
Did you really just ask that? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:15 AM |
#66 |
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Yes. I think you should post this at FR, since that's where your audience is. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 10:46 AM |
#84 |
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So there are no trolls or deniers on DU, huh. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:15 AM |
#163 |
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they walk among us. they 'claim' democratic values but they drank the kool-aid |
sojourner |
Nov-29-09 10:13 AM |
#63 |
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I don't know about that... |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 02:08 AM |
#12 |
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+1 |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-30-09 11:27 PM |
#187 |
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I'll forget this op rather quickly. |
emilyg |
Nov-29-09 01:38 AM |
#4 |
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Soooo... you don't believe Climate Change and the deniers are a problem? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:41 AM |
#6 |
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What OP? |
obliviously |
Nov-29-09 09:49 AM |
#51 |
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Well, if the "they" you speak of are 20 somethings. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-29-09 02:07 AM |
#11 |
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Right now, today, I am much more concerned about shame regarding HCR and the issue |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 03:01 AM |
#14 |
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it's fairly guaranteed, then |
MH1 |
Dec-02-09 08:11 PM |
#196 |
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Nope. It is what it is and it shall be what it becomes. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 04:13 AM |
#18 |
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This is an example of why the undecideds will break against global warming action. So over the top |
timeforpeace |
Nov-29-09 05:21 AM |
#19 |
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If someone makes up their mind based on a post like this, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:24 AM |
#23 |
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If your OP was directed at freepers |
Morning Dew |
Nov-29-09 12:41 PM |
#115 |
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It is. They're here. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:49 PM |
#121 |
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Maybe a little geological perspective will help you. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 09:00 AM |
#20 |
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Interesting. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:20 AM |
#22 |
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I see. "Scientifically literate", but no clue about Geology. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 09:41 AM |
#45 |
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'No clue' indeed. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:48 AM |
#50 |
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The earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. Rapid geological events take place over thousands or |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 10:43 AM |
#81 |
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Wow. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:53 AM |
#87 |
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LOL. Cognitive dissonance much? |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 11:17 AM |
#97 |
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So because YOU can't find an example of what's occurring now ever |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:23 AM |
#101 |
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It appears that your concept of 'scientific literacy' means calling those that use facts ignorant. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 11:48 AM |
#107 |
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LMAO! Wow. No, I call people that IGNORE the facts 'ignorant'. The way you've just |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:33 PM |
#111 |
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I'm providing actual facts and data to support my position, and all you are |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 01:29 PM |
#126 |
  -
Yet not one of those 'facts and data' addresses the point. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 05:50 PM |
#143 |
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Just as I thought. You got nothin'. No facts. Just jackin' your jaw. How pathetic. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 05:56 PM |
#145 |
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According to your graphs, I'm exactly right. Thanks. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:38 AM |
#169 |
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Blah blah blah. Where's the evidence of an anomaly? Just saying it doesn't make it so. |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 10:03 PM |
#182 |
  -
Ok, got it... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:13 PM |
#183 |
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So you don't have evidence of an anomaly then? You keep posturing and spouting off, but no data... |
Edweird |
Dec-04-09 05:41 PM |
#197 |
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No, you're not. At all. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:29 PM |
#188 |
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"fucking liar"? Prove it! |
Edweird |
Dec-02-09 07:59 PM |
#194 |
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That's what I thought. Here's 420k years of ice samples |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 02:43 PM |
#131 |
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Sorry, but your graph isn't convincing me to change my mind about climate change. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:31 PM |
#136 |
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Yeah, I know. It's only geology and all that. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 05:00 PM |
#139 |
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Calm down, please. I have done nothing of the sort. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 05:07 PM |
#140 |
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I'm calm :) |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 05:38 PM |
#142 |
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I'm not out to attack anyone who puts up a scientifically based rationale for questioning the OP |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 05:54 PM |
#144 |
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That's the thing. If you only focus on the last 50-100-200 years, you're not getting the whole |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 06:01 PM |
#146 |
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Sure, but how else can a graph emphasize the changes brought about |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 06:06 PM |
#147 |
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The graph shows CO2 rise followed by temperature rise, with a fall in both |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 06:20 PM |
#150 |
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The argument you are making is ridiculous. Essentially you are arguing that since |
Imperialism Inc. |
Nov-29-09 09:37 PM |
#155 |
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Sorry, but it takes more than "I'm right and you're wrong because you're stupid" or whatever. |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 01:10 AM |
#158 |
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Well ain't you a one-trick pony. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:24 AM |
#164 |
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When you have some, you know, SCIENCE to support your position, let me know. |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 06:20 PM |
#174 |
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You might want to whip out a dictionary and look up the meaning of ignorant. |
Imperialism Inc. |
Nov-30-09 03:01 PM |
#172 |
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So, where's the evidence? All you're doing is crying about how the science doesn't support your |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 06:10 PM |
#173 |
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The very same |
billh58 |
Nov-29-09 04:21 PM |
#133 |
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delete |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#24 |
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I'm shocked at the number of scientifically illiterate folks here on DU. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:34 AM |
#40 |
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Gosh, nothing like a condescending jerk to cheer people up. |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 09:37 AM |
#42 |
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I don't tolerate willfully ignorant people. If you feel I'm behaving intolerantly, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:47 AM |
#48 |
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Climate Change Deniers; Will you be ashamed? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#25 |
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Projection |
notesdev |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#26 |
  -
What's with defending the deniers? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#29 |
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Absolutely not, and your choice of words is quite offensive |
notesdev |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#32 |
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WTF are you talking about? Why are you talking about the Holocaust now? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#36 |
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He IS a denier |
PaulaFarrell |
Nov-29-09 10:49 AM |
#86 |
  -
Managed to nab a bunch of them here. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:08 AM |
#93 |
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...take a good guess... |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:35 PM |
#137 |
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you already posted this. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#27 |
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A few people couldn't be bothered to recognize toward whom this was directed. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#28 |
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I don't think people here have sympathy for the deniers so much as |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#31 |
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Well then; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:01 AM |
#53 |
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No. I'm saying you didn't put it well. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:07 AM |
#56 |
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Ok, after you've re-written all of |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:19 AM |
#67 |
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What I'd love to know is how you live and what you're doing |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:26 AM |
#71 |
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Change the subject much? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:38 AM |
#78 |
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now you're just babbling idiotically, sweetie. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:45 AM |
#83 |
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??? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:04 AM |
#92 |
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Difference between deny it and the cause of it (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#30 |
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blah blah if you disagree with me you're ignirent blah blah you're illitirit blah blah blah |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#33 |
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That's what funny about deniers; they think this is about identity, not science. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:40 AM |
#44 |
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you may be scientifically literate but you ought to work on your |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#34 |
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I tend to consider my target audience. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#38 |
   -
lol. defensive, huh? good. you should be. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:47 AM |
#49 |
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Wow... another person that can't tell the difference between 'defensive' and 'offensive'. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:08 AM |
#57 |
  -
oh, I can tell the difference. you, oth...... |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:12 AM |
#62 |
  -
Why be so defensive? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:23 AM |
#69 |
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"only hypocrites cannot forgive hypocrisy" |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:29 AM |
#73 |
  -
No, of course you haven't been. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:43 AM |
#80 |
  -
continuing the fail, I see. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:44 AM |
#82 |
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Because you can't be substantive. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:00 AM |
#90 |
  -
let me ask you a substantive question: |
cali |
Nov-29-09 11:11 AM |
#95 |
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Neither. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:18 AM |
#98 |
  -
I disagree, but you've made it clear that your op was ill stated |
cali |
Nov-29-09 11:22 AM |
#100 |
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That might be a fair clarification... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:28 AM |
#103 |
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seems to me that 'B' fits that criteria |
cali |
Nov-29-09 11:33 AM |
#104 |
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Another unknown. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:41 PM |
#116 |
  -
A grammar flame? Really? Quit posting stupid stuff Cali. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:12 AM |
#61 |
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I'll post what I please, dear. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:13 AM |
#65 |
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It's inane and only serves to add "noise" while reducing the level of discourse. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:31 AM |
#74 |
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Here's your science. Have fun. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#35 |
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IS that like, "Don't adjust your TV set."? Cause the big picture is out of your control? |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#37 |
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Time will tell |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 10:42 AM |
#79 |
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It already has; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:12 AM |
#96 |
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A symptom is not a diagnosis |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 11:20 AM |
#99 |
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Oh, because I didn't spend an hour pulling together the THOUSANDS of examples, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:26 AM |
#102 |
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Calling me |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 11:40 AM |
#105 |
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How typical. You're ignorant, not necessarily stupid. Do you know the difference? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:45 PM |
#119 |
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Aha so not agreeing with you |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 02:32 PM |
#130 |
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Uninformed. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:25 PM |
#135 |
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Lovely |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 07:06 PM |
#151 |
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The "dumb" part is something you added, yourself. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 07:21 PM |
#152 |
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If only the science were settled...... |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 07:23 PM |
#153 |
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I take it back. The word I was looking for was "misinformed". |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 07:47 PM |
#154 |
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You have any idea how transparent you are? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 09:48 AM |
#161 |
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So you're right |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-30-09 06:38 PM |
#177 |
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That's what you're not getting... you're not 'debating' at all. |
The Doctor. |
Dec-05-09 10:09 PM |
#198 |
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Is being a |
billh58 |
Nov-29-09 05:28 PM |
#141 |
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Your point is very well taken. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:13 AM |
#165 |
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ClimateOMFGChange was a nice trendy fad, |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 09:33 AM |
#39 |
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A "nice trendy fad" that's "over"? |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:08 AM |
#58 |
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"overwhelming majority of the world's scientists" - nice hyperbole there |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 01:32 PM |
#127 |
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What's so hyperbolic about that? It's true. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:40 PM |
#138 |
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4*C rise will wipe out BILLIONS |
Tejas |
Dec-01-09 08:51 AM |
#193 |
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I honestly don't understand |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 09:37 AM |
#41 |
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Plenty of them; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:11 AM |
#60 |
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Good lord, just read this thread! Denial isn't just a river in Fresno. |
Flaneur |
Nov-29-09 12:29 PM |
#110 |
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I wish this was on paper. I could line a catbox with it! |
obliviously |
Nov-29-09 09:46 AM |
#47 |
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Wow... your mindlessness is impressive. User-name well-chosen! |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:04 AM |
#55 |
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Your OP is spot on. To say that the overwhelmng majority of scientists are wrong, |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:24 AM |
#70 |
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Thanks. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:27 AM |
#72 |
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I wouldn't want to subject my cat to it. |
NaturalHigh |
Dec-05-09 10:38 PM |
#200 |
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+1,000,000,000,000 |
Odin2005 |
Nov-29-09 10:35 AM |
#75 |
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If I had grandchildren, I'd tell them salmon tasted okay, nothing great |
NoPasaran |
Nov-29-09 10:35 AM |
#76 |
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lol. best response of the miserable thread. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:38 AM |
#77 |
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Yeah, all those climate change pushers and their 'holier-than-thou' attitudes! |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:49 AM |
#85 |
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This thread is obvious flamebait |
NoPasaran |
Nov-29-09 10:55 AM |
#88 |
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Funny... the only ones it targeted are AGW *deniers*. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:02 AM |
#91 |
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I'm finding your high dudgeon most amusing. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:55 AM |
#89 |
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Ummm.... really? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:10 AM |
#94 |
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Serious question. What is the optimum temperature for the earth? |
Synicus Maximus |
Nov-29-09 11:47 AM |
#106 |
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the optimium temperature of the earth |
Prometheuspan |
Nov-29-09 12:39 PM |
#114 |
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I think you mean 'optimal' for human-friendly climate. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:56 PM |
#122 |
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I have no children |
varelse |
Nov-29-09 11:59 AM |
#108 |
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They won't be sheltered and protected though |
Lorien |
Nov-29-09 12:36 PM |
#113 |
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In the short term, they will be shielded |
varelse |
Nov-29-09 12:46 PM |
#120 |
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the chicken littles don't care |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 01:35 PM |
#128 |
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Barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm ever llikely to land in the denial camp |
varelse |
Nov-29-09 03:49 PM |
#132 |
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So what are you going to tell your grandchildren? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:48 AM |
#170 |
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ttt |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-29-09 12:00 PM |
#109 |
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I wanted kids but didn't have them because my best friend's father is a |
Lorien |
Nov-29-09 12:35 PM |
#112 |
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Climate Change is real but your predictions are stupid. nt |
anonymous171 |
Nov-29-09 12:42 PM |
#117 |
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They are not 'my' predictions. They are simple projections based on current trends. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:58 PM |
#123 |
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OK, explain how mass famines in the first world are going to become commonplace? |
anonymous171 |
Nov-29-09 12:59 PM |
#124 |
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Right... screw the balance of humanity. We got ours, right? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:21 PM |
#125 |
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If anything, your predictions are understated |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:18 AM |
#159 |
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The REALLY frightening part; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:10 AM |
#162 |
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the solution to the problem being... |
Prometheuspan |
Nov-29-09 12:42 PM |
#118 |
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I don't believe some denialists will be ashamed for two reasons. |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-29-09 01:49 PM |
#129 |
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Nope. |
Iggo |
Nov-29-09 04:23 PM |
#134 |
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I forget what I was going to say |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-29-09 06:09 PM |
#148 |
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No. |
JVS |
Nov-29-09 06:12 PM |
#149 |
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I'm not in denial. I just think it's too late to reverse the changes. |
Kaleva |
Nov-29-09 09:51 PM |
#156 |
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Wouldn't that include changing the behaviors that exacerbate Climate Change? |
omega minimo |
Dec-01-09 01:16 AM |
#190 |
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this post is upsetting for NON deniers too |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Nov-29-09 10:09 PM |
#157 |
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Can you imagine if everyone did as you do? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:21 AM |
#167 |
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no, no family whatsoever.... |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Dec-01-09 07:51 AM |
#192 |
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good job, doc |
Duppers |
Nov-30-09 01:36 AM |
#160 |
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Seriously... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:14 AM |
#166 |
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Since I'm not a climate-change denier... |
derby378 |
Nov-30-09 11:26 AM |
#168 |
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so agree with me or your stupid, is that about right? |
crazyjoe |
Nov-30-09 12:07 PM |
#171 |
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No, that's ignorant. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 09:02 PM |
#178 |
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if the cap fits.. |
G_j |
Nov-30-09 09:20 PM |
#180 |
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"Don't forget this post. Ever." |
Blue-Jay |
Nov-30-09 06:21 PM |
#175 |
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*Ever*!! |
Bluebear |
Nov-30-09 09:22 PM |
#181 |
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Honestly, I don't know how anyone can deny it. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-30-09 06:25 PM |
#176 |
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They better fucking be. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:19 PM |
#184 |
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Or maybe, as we fish for salmon, I will tell them of the flappy armed death cultists of yesteryear. |
Throd |
Nov-30-09 11:55 PM |
#189 |
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No. Because I don't have children. |
REP |
Dec-01-09 02:44 AM |
#191 |
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k & r n/t |
R. P. McMurphy |
Dec-02-09 08:05 PM |
#195 |
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I do not believe that human activity is causing climate change. |
NaturalHigh |
Dec-05-09 10:33 PM |
#199 |
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Blah, blah, blah. |
Zavulon |
Dec-05-09 10:53 PM |
#201 |
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"I don't do my best to stop it." |
NaturalHigh |
Dec-06-09 12:57 AM |
#202 |
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You're on, friend. |
Zavulon |
Dec-06-09 11:06 PM |
#205 |
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This just in: India STILL doesn't care. |
Tejas |
Dec-06-09 09:22 PM |
#204 |