| 119. How typical. You're ignorant, not necessarily stupid. Do you know the difference? |
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One is a simple fact, the other is an insult.
You are not educated on the issue if you think the ice cap problem is the only symptom.
You would be 'stupid' if you deliberately ignored or discounted what you were told.
I never called you 'stupid', I'm merely leaving whether you're stupid up to you.
|
| -Will you be ashamed? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:27 AM |
#0 |
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Unrec for unempirical histrionics |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-29-09 01:33 AM |
#1 |
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No, you won't. These things are happening *NOW*. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:38 AM |
#3 |
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So, it's happening *NOW*, but you're warning me about 50 years from now |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-29-09 01:44 AM |
#8 |
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Empty? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:49 AM |
#10 |
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Please, Doctor. Do you know with whom you are debating? |
Greyhound |
Nov-29-09 04:09 AM |
#17 |
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In case you don't know, Doc, you're arguing with one named after a fictional football player who... |
11 Bravo |
Nov-30-09 09:14 PM |
#179 |
| -
Well... isn't that sumpin' |
The Doctor. |
Dec-06-09 07:40 PM |
#203 |
| -
EMPTY? what world are you living in? |
sojourner |
Nov-29-09 10:10 AM |
#59 |
| -
It's bringing them out nicely. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:13 AM |
#64 |
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i know. posted on a different topic and could not believe number of DUers who came out . |
sojourner |
Nov-29-09 10:21 AM |
#68 |
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I guess I'm not a good enough person not to wish them harm, then. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:25 PM |
#186 |
| -
I'm FURIOUS. They've helped destroy my son's future. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:24 PM |
#185 |
| -
Even if we do something it won't look the as it does now. Be real. |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 02:29 AM |
#13 |
| -
I'm childless, therefore grandchildless. You WILL forget that. |
NoSheep |
Nov-29-09 01:37 AM |
#2 |
| -
This IS to the freepers. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:40 AM |
#5 |
| -
I guess you do! btw, your subject line didn't warn me you were talking to freepers. |
NoSheep |
Nov-29-09 01:44 AM |
#7 |
| -
Sorry... I thought the part about the denialists was enough. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:46 AM |
#9 |
| -
No need - There's enough denialists on DU |
Dead_Parrot |
Nov-29-09 03:18 AM |
#16 |
| -
I'm shocked at the numbers just in this thread. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:53 AM |
#52 |
| -
I think it's a safe assumption that you are speaking to us because you put it on |
tavalon |
Nov-29-09 03:04 AM |
#15 |
| -
Apologies... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:16 AM |
#21 |
| -
Yes. |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 09:40 AM |
#43 |
| -
Is that a joke? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:42 AM |
#46 |
| -
It's not a joke. |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 10:04 AM |
#54 |
| -
Did you really just ask that? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:15 AM |
#66 |
| -
Yes. I think you should post this at FR, since that's where your audience is. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 10:46 AM |
#84 |
| -
So there are no trolls or deniers on DU, huh. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:15 AM |
#163 |
| -
they walk among us. they 'claim' democratic values but they drank the kool-aid |
sojourner |
Nov-29-09 10:13 AM |
#63 |
| -
I don't know about that... |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 02:08 AM |
#12 |
| -
+1 |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-30-09 11:27 PM |
#187 |
| -
I'll forget this op rather quickly. |
emilyg |
Nov-29-09 01:38 AM |
#4 |
| -
Soooo... you don't believe Climate Change and the deniers are a problem? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:41 AM |
#6 |
| -
What OP? |
obliviously |
Nov-29-09 09:49 AM |
#51 |
| -
Well, if the "they" you speak of are 20 somethings. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-29-09 02:07 AM |
#11 |
| -
Right now, today, I am much more concerned about shame regarding HCR and the issue |
Better Today |
Nov-29-09 03:01 AM |
#14 |
| -
it's fairly guaranteed, then |
MH1 |
Dec-02-09 08:11 PM |
#196 |
| -
Nope. It is what it is and it shall be what it becomes. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 04:13 AM |
#18 |
| -
This is an example of why the undecideds will break against global warming action. So over the top |
timeforpeace |
Nov-29-09 05:21 AM |
#19 |
| -
If someone makes up their mind based on a post like this, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:24 AM |
#23 |
| -
If your OP was directed at freepers |
Morning Dew |
Nov-29-09 12:41 PM |
#115 |
| -
It is. They're here. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:49 PM |
#121 |
| -
Maybe a little geological perspective will help you. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 09:00 AM |
#20 |
| -
Interesting. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:20 AM |
#22 |
| -
I see. "Scientifically literate", but no clue about Geology. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 09:41 AM |
#45 |
| -
'No clue' indeed. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:48 AM |
#50 |
| -
The earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. Rapid geological events take place over thousands or |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 10:43 AM |
#81 |
| -
Wow. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:53 AM |
#87 |
| -
LOL. Cognitive dissonance much? |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 11:17 AM |
#97 |
| -
So because YOU can't find an example of what's occurring now ever |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:23 AM |
#101 |
| -
It appears that your concept of 'scientific literacy' means calling those that use facts ignorant. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 11:48 AM |
#107 |
| -
LMAO! Wow. No, I call people that IGNORE the facts 'ignorant'. The way you've just |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:33 PM |
#111 |
| -
I'm providing actual facts and data to support my position, and all you are |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 01:29 PM |
#126 |
| -
Yet not one of those 'facts and data' addresses the point. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 05:50 PM |
#143 |
| -
Just as I thought. You got nothin'. No facts. Just jackin' your jaw. How pathetic. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 05:56 PM |
#145 |
| -
According to your graphs, I'm exactly right. Thanks. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:38 AM |
#169 |
| -
Blah blah blah. Where's the evidence of an anomaly? Just saying it doesn't make it so. |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 10:03 PM |
#182 |
| -
Ok, got it... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:13 PM |
#183 |
| -
So you don't have evidence of an anomaly then? You keep posturing and spouting off, but no data... |
Edweird |
Dec-04-09 05:41 PM |
#197 |
| -
No, you're not. At all. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:29 PM |
#188 |
| -
"fucking liar"? Prove it! |
Edweird |
Dec-02-09 07:59 PM |
#194 |
| -
That's what I thought. Here's 420k years of ice samples |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 02:43 PM |
#131 |
| -
Sorry, but your graph isn't convincing me to change my mind about climate change. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:31 PM |
#136 |
| -
Yeah, I know. It's only geology and all that. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 05:00 PM |
#139 |
| -
Calm down, please. I have done nothing of the sort. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 05:07 PM |
#140 |
| -
I'm calm :) |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 05:38 PM |
#142 |
| -
I'm not out to attack anyone who puts up a scientifically based rationale for questioning the OP |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 05:54 PM |
#144 |
| -
That's the thing. If you only focus on the last 50-100-200 years, you're not getting the whole |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 06:01 PM |
#146 |
| -
Sure, but how else can a graph emphasize the changes brought about |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 06:06 PM |
#147 |
| -
The graph shows CO2 rise followed by temperature rise, with a fall in both |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 06:20 PM |
#150 |
| -
The argument you are making is ridiculous. Essentially you are arguing that since |
Imperialism Inc. |
Nov-29-09 09:37 PM |
#155 |
| -
Sorry, but it takes more than "I'm right and you're wrong because you're stupid" or whatever. |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 01:10 AM |
#158 |
| -
Well ain't you a one-trick pony. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:24 AM |
#164 |
| -
When you have some, you know, SCIENCE to support your position, let me know. |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 06:20 PM |
#174 |
| -
You might want to whip out a dictionary and look up the meaning of ignorant. |
Imperialism Inc. |
Nov-30-09 03:01 PM |
#172 |
| -
So, where's the evidence? All you're doing is crying about how the science doesn't support your |
Edweird |
Nov-30-09 06:10 PM |
#173 |
| -
The very same |
billh58 |
Nov-29-09 04:21 PM |
#133 |
| -
delete |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#24 |
| -
I'm shocked at the number of scientifically illiterate folks here on DU. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:34 AM |
#40 |
| -
Gosh, nothing like a condescending jerk to cheer people up. |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 09:37 AM |
#42 |
| -
I don't tolerate willfully ignorant people. If you feel I'm behaving intolerantly, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:47 AM |
#48 |
| -
Climate Change Deniers; Will you be ashamed? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#25 |
| -
Projection |
notesdev |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#26 |
| -
What's with defending the deniers? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#29 |
| -
Absolutely not, and your choice of words is quite offensive |
notesdev |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#32 |
| -
WTF are you talking about? Why are you talking about the Holocaust now? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#36 |
| -
He IS a denier |
PaulaFarrell |
Nov-29-09 10:49 AM |
#86 |
| -
Managed to nab a bunch of them here. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:08 AM |
#93 |
| -
...take a good guess... |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:35 PM |
#137 |
| -
you already posted this. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#27 |
| -
A few people couldn't be bothered to recognize toward whom this was directed. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#28 |
| -
I don't think people here have sympathy for the deniers so much as |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#31 |
| -
Well then; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:01 AM |
#53 |
| -
No. I'm saying you didn't put it well. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:07 AM |
#56 |
| -
Ok, after you've re-written all of |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:19 AM |
#67 |
| -
What I'd love to know is how you live and what you're doing |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:26 AM |
#71 |
| -
Change the subject much? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:38 AM |
#78 |
| -
now you're just babbling idiotically, sweetie. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:45 AM |
#83 |
| -
??? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:04 AM |
#92 |
| -
Difference between deny it and the cause of it (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Nov-29-09 09:30 AM |
#30 |
| -
blah blah if you disagree with me you're ignirent blah blah you're illitirit blah blah blah |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#33 |
| -
That's what funny about deniers; they think this is about identity, not science. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:40 AM |
#44 |
| -
you may be scientifically literate but you ought to work on your |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#34 |
| -
I tend to consider my target audience. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#38 |
| -
lol. defensive, huh? good. you should be. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 09:47 AM |
#49 |
| -
Wow... another person that can't tell the difference between 'defensive' and 'offensive'. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:08 AM |
#57 |
| -
oh, I can tell the difference. you, oth...... |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:12 AM |
#62 |
| -
Why be so defensive? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:23 AM |
#69 |
| -
"only hypocrites cannot forgive hypocrisy" |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:29 AM |
#73 |
| -
No, of course you haven't been. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:43 AM |
#80 |
| -
continuing the fail, I see. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:44 AM |
#82 |
| -
Because you can't be substantive. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:00 AM |
#90 |
| -
let me ask you a substantive question: |
cali |
Nov-29-09 11:11 AM |
#95 |
| -
Neither. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:18 AM |
#98 |
| -
I disagree, but you've made it clear that your op was ill stated |
cali |
Nov-29-09 11:22 AM |
#100 |
| -
That might be a fair clarification... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:28 AM |
#103 |
| -
seems to me that 'B' fits that criteria |
cali |
Nov-29-09 11:33 AM |
#104 |
| -
Another unknown. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:41 PM |
#116 |
| -
A grammar flame? Really? Quit posting stupid stuff Cali. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:12 AM |
#61 |
| -
I'll post what I please, dear. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:13 AM |
#65 |
| -
It's inane and only serves to add "noise" while reducing the level of discourse. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:31 AM |
#74 |
| -
Here's your science. Have fun. |
Edweird |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#35 |
| -
IS that like, "Don't adjust your TV set."? Cause the big picture is out of your control? |
imdjh |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
#37 |
| -
Time will tell |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 10:42 AM |
#79 |
| -
It already has; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:12 AM |
#96 |
| -
A symptom is not a diagnosis |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 11:20 AM |
#99 |
| -
Oh, because I didn't spend an hour pulling together the THOUSANDS of examples, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:26 AM |
#102 |
| -
Calling me |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 11:40 AM |
#105 |
| -
How typical. You're ignorant, not necessarily stupid. Do you know the difference? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:45 PM |
#119 |
| -
Aha so not agreeing with you |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 02:32 PM |
#130 |
| -
Uninformed. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:25 PM |
#135 |
| -
Lovely |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 07:06 PM |
#151 |
| -
The "dumb" part is something you added, yourself. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 07:21 PM |
#152 |
| -
If only the science were settled...... |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 07:23 PM |
#153 |
| -
I take it back. The word I was looking for was "misinformed". |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 07:47 PM |
#154 |
| -
You have any idea how transparent you are? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 09:48 AM |
#161 |
| -
So you're right |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-30-09 06:38 PM |
#177 |
| -
That's what you're not getting... you're not 'debating' at all. |
The Doctor. |
Dec-05-09 10:09 PM |
#198 |
| -
Is being a |
billh58 |
Nov-29-09 05:28 PM |
#141 |
| -
Your point is very well taken. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:13 AM |
#165 |
| -
ClimateOMFGChange was a nice trendy fad, |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 09:33 AM |
#39 |
| -
A "nice trendy fad" that's "over"? |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:08 AM |
#58 |
| -
"overwhelming majority of the world's scientists" - nice hyperbole there |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 01:32 PM |
#127 |
| -
What's so hyperbolic about that? It's true. |
Quantess |
Nov-29-09 04:40 PM |
#138 |
| -
4*C rise will wipe out BILLIONS |
Tejas |
Dec-01-09 08:51 AM |
#193 |
| -
I honestly don't understand |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 09:37 AM |
#41 |
| -
Plenty of them; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:11 AM |
#60 |
| -
Good lord, just read this thread! Denial isn't just a river in Fresno. |
Flaneur |
Nov-29-09 12:29 PM |
#110 |
| -
I wish this was on paper. I could line a catbox with it! |
obliviously |
Nov-29-09 09:46 AM |
#47 |
| -
Wow... your mindlessness is impressive. User-name well-chosen! |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:04 AM |
#55 |
| -
Your OP is spot on. To say that the overwhelmng majority of scientists are wrong, |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 10:24 AM |
#70 |
| -
Thanks. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:27 AM |
#72 |
| -
I wouldn't want to subject my cat to it. |
NaturalHigh |
Dec-05-09 10:38 PM |
#200 |
| -
+1,000,000,000,000 |
Odin2005 |
Nov-29-09 10:35 AM |
#75 |
| -
If I had grandchildren, I'd tell them salmon tasted okay, nothing great |
NoPasaran |
Nov-29-09 10:35 AM |
#76 |
| -
lol. best response of the miserable thread. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:38 AM |
#77 |
| -
Yeah, all those climate change pushers and their 'holier-than-thou' attitudes! |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 10:49 AM |
#85 |
| -
This thread is obvious flamebait |
NoPasaran |
Nov-29-09 10:55 AM |
#88 |
| -
Funny... the only ones it targeted are AGW *deniers*. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:02 AM |
#91 |
| -
I'm finding your high dudgeon most amusing. |
cali |
Nov-29-09 10:55 AM |
#89 |
| -
Ummm.... really? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 11:10 AM |
#94 |
| -
Serious question. What is the optimum temperature for the earth? |
Synicus Maximus |
Nov-29-09 11:47 AM |
#106 |
| -
the optimium temperature of the earth |
Prometheuspan |
Nov-29-09 12:39 PM |
#114 |
| -
I think you mean 'optimal' for human-friendly climate. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:56 PM |
#122 |
| -
I have no children |
varelse |
Nov-29-09 11:59 AM |
#108 |
| -
They won't be sheltered and protected though |
Lorien |
Nov-29-09 12:36 PM |
#113 |
| -
In the short term, they will be shielded |
varelse |
Nov-29-09 12:46 PM |
#120 |
| -
the chicken littles don't care |
Tejas |
Nov-29-09 01:35 PM |
#128 |
| -
Barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm ever llikely to land in the denial camp |
varelse |
Nov-29-09 03:49 PM |
#132 |
| -
So what are you going to tell your grandchildren? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:48 AM |
#170 |
| -
ttt |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-29-09 12:00 PM |
#109 |
| -
I wanted kids but didn't have them because my best friend's father is a |
Lorien |
Nov-29-09 12:35 PM |
#112 |
| -
Climate Change is real but your predictions are stupid. nt |
anonymous171 |
Nov-29-09 12:42 PM |
#117 |
| -
They are not 'my' predictions. They are simple projections based on current trends. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:58 PM |
#123 |
| -
OK, explain how mass famines in the first world are going to become commonplace? |
anonymous171 |
Nov-29-09 12:59 PM |
#124 |
| -
Right... screw the balance of humanity. We got ours, right? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 01:21 PM |
#125 |
| -
If anything, your predictions are understated |
depakid |
Nov-30-09 01:18 AM |
#159 |
| -
The REALLY frightening part; |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 10:10 AM |
#162 |
| -
the solution to the problem being... |
Prometheuspan |
Nov-29-09 12:42 PM |
#118 |
| -
I don't believe some denialists will be ashamed for two reasons. |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-29-09 01:49 PM |
#129 |
| -
Nope. |
Iggo |
Nov-29-09 04:23 PM |
#134 |
| -
I forget what I was going to say |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-29-09 06:09 PM |
#148 |
| -
No. |
JVS |
Nov-29-09 06:12 PM |
#149 |
| -
I'm not in denial. I just think it's too late to reverse the changes. |
Kaleva |
Nov-29-09 09:51 PM |
#156 |
| -
Wouldn't that include changing the behaviors that exacerbate Climate Change? |
omega minimo |
Dec-01-09 01:16 AM |
#190 |
| -
this post is upsetting for NON deniers too |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Nov-29-09 10:09 PM |
#157 |
| -
Can you imagine if everyone did as you do? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:21 AM |
#167 |
| -
no, no family whatsoever.... |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Dec-01-09 07:51 AM |
#192 |
| -
good job, doc |
Duppers |
Nov-30-09 01:36 AM |
#160 |
| -
Seriously... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 11:14 AM |
#166 |
| -
Since I'm not a climate-change denier... |
derby378 |
Nov-30-09 11:26 AM |
#168 |
| -
so agree with me or your stupid, is that about right? |
crazyjoe |
Nov-30-09 12:07 PM |
#171 |
| -
No, that's ignorant. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-30-09 09:02 PM |
#178 |
| -
if the cap fits.. |
G_j |
Nov-30-09 09:20 PM |
#180 |
| -
"Don't forget this post. Ever." |
Blue-Jay |
Nov-30-09 06:21 PM |
#175 |
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*Ever*!! |
Bluebear |
Nov-30-09 09:22 PM |
#181 |
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Honestly, I don't know how anyone can deny it. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-30-09 06:25 PM |
#176 |
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They better fucking be. |
Zhade |
Nov-30-09 11:19 PM |
#184 |
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Or maybe, as we fish for salmon, I will tell them of the flappy armed death cultists of yesteryear. |
Throd |
Nov-30-09 11:55 PM |
#189 |
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No. Because I don't have children. |
REP |
Dec-01-09 02:44 AM |
#191 |
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k & r n/t |
R. P. McMurphy |
Dec-02-09 08:05 PM |
#195 |
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I do not believe that human activity is causing climate change. |
NaturalHigh |
Dec-05-09 10:33 PM |
#199 |
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Blah, blah, blah. |
Zavulon |
Dec-05-09 10:53 PM |
#201 |
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"I don't do my best to stop it." |
NaturalHigh |
Dec-06-09 12:57 AM |
#202 |
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You're on, friend. |
Zavulon |
Dec-06-09 11:06 PM |
#205 |
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This just in: India STILL doesn't care. |
Tejas |
Dec-06-09 09:22 PM |
#204 |
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