| 79. I'm looking at as an informed citizen. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 03:44 PM by TexasObserver
I don't want to see any civil cases. I want to see the dogs treated as the dangerous animals they are.
I handled two such cases. I don't care to handle any others. I handled those because I knew both families and they wanted me to handle them. One involved the child of a law partner. One involved the child of a firm business client.
If you're reduced to playing the "trial lawyer" card, maybe you should consider the GOP.
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| -Vicious pitbull attack on small boy (pls watch before rec/unrec) |
uppityperson |
Nov-28-09 07:13 PM |
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Although just to the right of that video on the YouTube page was this one.... |
marmar |
Nov-28-09 07:16 PM |
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Thanks for kicking, no "awwwww" for that little kid? |
uppityperson |
Nov-28-09 07:18 PM |
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Belated awwww. That was cute.... |
marmar |
Nov-28-09 07:19 PM |
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Any medium-to-large dog is capable of doing the same thing - and has. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:16 AM |
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guess i should watch first |
mzteris |
Nov-28-09 07:18 PM |
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You said it! |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-09 07:19 PM |
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Wow. |
flvegan |
Nov-28-09 07:19 PM |
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As opposed to a "gentle" attack? |
Greyhound |
Nov-28-09 07:23 PM |
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Yeah, and guns don't kill people. People kill people. |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 03:06 AM |
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? |
Greyhound |
Nov-29-09 03:41 AM |
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Heh |
varelse |
Nov-28-09 07:25 PM |
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Only one little moment was enough for the following to happen.... |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-09 07:28 PM |
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Opened this thread ready for the same old dog-bashing bs. |
Truth2Tell |
Nov-28-09 07:31 PM |
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That was very sweet |
Chemisse |
Nov-28-09 09:01 PM |
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Why take a chance on any dog? |
uppityperson |
Nov-28-09 09:07 PM |
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And here is the problem. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:08 PM |
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If there is even the slightest chance |
Chemisse |
Nov-29-09 03:07 PM |
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You live with a ridiculous false sense of security. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 03:15 PM |
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Then don't get any dogs. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 03:18 PM |
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Pit bulls are one of the few breeds that are bred to be nonagressive toward humans. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 03:59 PM |
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dude it is in all dogs nature to bite down all the way and shake |
EndersDame |
Nov-29-09 07:26 PM |
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that dog has very loving eyes... |
a la izquierda |
Nov-28-09 09:17 PM |
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Awwwww... I'm glad this cute little kid is breathing |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Nov-28-09 09:23 PM |
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Huh? |
Bonn1997 |
Nov-29-09 06:23 AM |
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I'd be more worried about the kids who play with that kid. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 05:46 PM |
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awww, does that mean you're gonna quit kicking this thread & insulting us? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:53 PM |
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I did not unrec it, but here's your kick |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Nov-30-09 08:26 PM |
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So someone put his sleeping toddler on a pitbull and took a video of it. That's it? |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 03:10 AM |
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True. Dogs tend to snap at little ones who startle them. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 08:44 AM |
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I agree, it's the combination. |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 09:38 AM |
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The bigger the jaw, the worse the bite. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 01:00 PM |
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Reputable link to that claim rather than disproportionate number of serious dog bites REPORTED |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 02:54 PM |
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I gave you the link to articles from the Seattle Times last time, as you know. n/t |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 05:52 PM |
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Still mindreading, eh? How's your puppy working out, or didn't you end up finding one? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:55 PM |
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Here's another, this time from the P.I., which reports that 1/3 of deaths related to dog bites |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 06:10 PM |
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"we seriously doubt a ban on pit bulls or any other breed would work." |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 06:22 PM |
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I didn't suggest having a ban on pit bulls. n/t |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 08:03 PM |
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"And the result is that in my county, at least, a disproportionate number of serious dog bites (ones |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 08:20 PM |
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A poodle mix! Poodles are the breed most likely to attack humans. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 06:22 PM |
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yeah, right. |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 08:02 PM |
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There's no such thing as a "locking jaw". |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 10:52 AM |
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Nonsense. The dog's jaw plays a critical role in the damage. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 12:55 PM |
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The APBT is not the worst of breeds |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:06 PM |
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Even using your Pit Bull friendly source, it's in the top three. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 01:16 PM |
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Um... they only tested 3. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:16 PM |
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The study tested three big dogs known for their biting strength |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 01:23 PM |
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They also compared those 3 dogs to each other. That is what we are discussing |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 02:59 PM |
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All three breeds have a bite as vicious as wild dogs. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 03:14 PM |
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Pit Bull search and rescue. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:57 PM |
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Nov-29-09 06:26 PM |
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LMAO. Still in the top three! That's a typically stupid comment |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 04:11 PM |
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How much actual, first hand experience do you have with Pit Bulls? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 02:21 PM |
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"The breed has nothing to do with it anymore than the color of it's nose does." |
Chemisse |
Nov-29-09 02:51 PM |
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Some *individuals* are more aggressive than others, certainly. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 03:08 PM |
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You do realize that pitbulls have been bred for generations to not be aggressive |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:11 PM |
#67 |
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You should take lessons from Bald Guy |
Chemisse |
Nov-29-09 06:38 PM |
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Asking to make sure you know about there breeding, since you didn't seem to, is "rude"? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 06:49 PM |
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They may hold their jaw shut with bigger muscle, but no "locking" is involved |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 02:57 PM |
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The "locking" is a myth. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:02 PM |
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Your beliefs are a myth. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 01:20 PM |
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Um, no. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:24 PM |
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You're the typical "well MY dog is great" advocate. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 01:35 PM |
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Is it at ALL possible for you to disagree with someone without resorting to personal attacks? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:44 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-29-09 01:53 PM |
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I don't think it is possible, reading through the replies. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:02 PM |
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I've already done so. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 04:12 PM |
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Oh poor you. Where have I "attacked" you? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:14 PM |
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"No one has ever said they literally have a locking mechanism in their jaw which snaps closed"Wrong |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:01 PM |
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The problem is not the term, but that you don't like it. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 03:06 PM |
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The problem is the term is taken to mean what it says, the jaws lock, by many |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:12 PM |
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You'd better get used to it. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 03:22 PM |
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"Is it at ALL possible for you to disagree with someone without resorting to personal attacks? " |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:54 PM |
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Is it possible for you to do so? |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 04:15 PM |
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I guess it isn't possible for you to disagree without resorting to a personal attack |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:20 PM |
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It's certainly not possible for YOU to argue without claiming you've been attacked. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 04:23 PM |
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Edit as misread. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:24 PM |
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. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:25 PM |
#108 |
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"edit" is a wonderful thing, isn't it? It lets someone change what they wrote |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:32 PM |
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deleted subthread held a lot, why it went away. Here are few more that haven't been deleted, yet |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:29 PM |
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their jaws do NOT lock, urban legend there. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 02:52 PM |
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I've addressed that in numerous posts in this thread. Read them. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 02:55 PM |
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And you should stop looking at this issue like a litigator trying to get the maximum damage award. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 03:26 PM |
#75 |
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I'm looking at as an informed citizen. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 03:41 PM |
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You, sir or ma'am, deserve the respect you get. eom |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:02 PM |
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The most dangerous animals are the ones that train their dogs to fight. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 04:15 PM |
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The pit bull's jaw does not have any special "locking" mechanism. |
Tutankhamun |
Nov-29-09 04:05 PM |
#89 |
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See my signature. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 05:08 PM |
#144 |
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Thanks for putting your prejudices out there. Women shouldn't be allowed to vote either. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:12 PM |
#147 |
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you're ignorance and defiant attitude is much |
dana_b |
Nov-29-09 06:33 PM |
#170 |
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That's bullshit |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-29-09 08:05 PM |
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Aw what a sweet dog |
Raine |
Nov-29-09 03:45 AM |
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Fair enough. Still, can you deny the evidence about pitbulls presented in this video? |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-29-09 04:03 AM |
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Pitbulls are Republican |
Onlooker |
Nov-29-09 08:49 AM |
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Unfortunately, that's true. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 06:01 PM |
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aw the poor dog prob can't expand his lungs with that kids dead weight on him....srsly |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Nov-29-09 08:51 AM |
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True. This scene was so obviously posed, |
pnwmom |
Nov-29-09 09:42 AM |
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Typical dog. |
LWolf |
Nov-29-09 09:47 AM |
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AWW!!! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-29-09 10:38 AM |
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K&R...Nice!! |
cliffordu |
Nov-29-09 01:03 PM |
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Whatever your intention here |
walldude |
Nov-29-09 01:09 PM |
#36 |
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it's an intentionally misleading thread title. Which is actually against DU rules. |
KittyWampus |
Nov-29-09 01:16 PM |
#39 |
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It is the title of the video, which is DU rules. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:05 PM |
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Sometimes reading the text and the replies can help give a clue. For instance "awwwww" |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:06 PM |
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that poor dog. nt |
mrs_p |
Nov-29-09 01:14 PM |
#37 |
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Here's one you should watch, too. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 01:17 PM |
#41 |
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+1000 |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 02:33 PM |
#51 |
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why would i want to watch a 'vicious pitbull attack on a small boy'? |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-29-09 02:31 PM |
#49 |
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As this video explains |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 02:41 PM |
#52 |
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Many people clicked on this and somehow I thought the "awwww, cute" |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:09 PM |
#66 |
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it takes a special kind of moran to expect people to want to click on a 'vicious pit bull attack' |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-29-09 03:17 PM |
#72 |
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Are you calling me a "moran"? 1478 clicks on this thread |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:56 PM |
#83 |
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I want to see how that dog reacts to a stranger boy , one not of its pack before I make judgement. |
UndertheOcean |
Nov-29-09 02:32 PM |
#50 |
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You cannot be serious |
knightinwhitesatin |
Nov-29-09 03:29 PM |
#77 |
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Can say the same about any dog. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 04:30 PM |
#113 |
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Go to a dog park. My friend takes his pit mix and the dog did not react even when a little brat |
EndersDame |
Nov-29-09 07:28 PM |
#185 |
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Is it too late for you to change the thread title? |
janx |
Nov-29-09 03:13 PM |
#69 |
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No, editing period is over and this was the title on the video |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 03:58 PM |
#85 |
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Somehow, I just knew this thread wouldn't stay ignorant-free. |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 03:26 PM |
#76 |
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Which is the whole point of this thread and the video to which it links. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 03:30 PM |
#78 |
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Hi Nikki, here we are again. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:06 PM |
#90 |
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Some folks are just dumber than a sack of rocks |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 03:45 PM |
#80 |
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I know! MONSTERS!! Check out THIS story of horror: |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 03:52 PM |
#81 |
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Are these Search and Rescue teams dumber than a sack of rocks? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:01 PM |
#87 |
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Next you and others who pile on will tell me that there hasn 't been a spate of pit bull maulings |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:07 PM |
#91 |
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Banning one breed gives a false sense of security. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:11 PM |
#94 |
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No- it gives one an ACTUAL sense of security |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:19 PM |
#101 |
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Search and Rescue Pitbulls are..."dangerous by nature"? yup, and white men can't jump |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:23 PM |
#104 |
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Oh, it's false. Other breeds bite, too. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:24 PM |
#107 |
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Quoted For Truth! "The breed is dangerous by nature." |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 04:44 PM |
#126 |
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White men can't jump or dance either. Women shouldn't be allowed to drive or vote since |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:52 PM |
#131 |
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And what personal experience do you have to indicate this? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 04:56 PM |
#133 |
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dupe |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:15 PM |
#99 |
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We are soooooo bad for "piling" on your prejudices, right. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:15 PM |
#100 |
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You probably can't see the irony in that statement |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:31 PM |
#114 |
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Ironic that I say my cuddly dog hasn't done repeated mauling, left people dead? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 04:35 PM |
#119 |
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"responsible for repeated maulings that leave people dead or maimed for life" |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 05:02 PM |
#140 |
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Prove my cuddly dog did that. Where are those "facts" that prove it? |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:03 PM |
#142 |
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Pick out the Pit Bull |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 04:50 PM |
#130 |
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Media Bias in Reporting Dog Attacks |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:57 PM |
#134 |
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Oh brother. n/t |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 04:09 PM |
#92 |
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Unlike Americans- Australians get fed up with preventable tragedies- and do something about them |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:13 PM |
#96 |
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Unlike New South Wales, most of America isn't subject to kneejerk legislation |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 04:21 PM |
#103 |
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I guess repeated maulings are your thing |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:27 PM |
#109 |
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Show me one study that proves BSL is effective. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:29 PM |
#110 |
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BSL? |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:32 PM |
#117 |
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I do. And you have romaticized ideas of BSL (breed specific legislation) |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:34 PM |
#118 |
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So one breed accounted for 28% of all deaths? Impressive. |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:41 PM |
#124 |
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Show me one study that proves BSL is effective. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:45 PM |
#127 |
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Since the breed's been banned in the UK for decades, that would trying to prove a negative |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:59 PM |
#137 |
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Oh, I would think that would make it much easier. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 05:09 PM |
#145 |
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Thank you Nikki. Peace to you. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:13 PM |
#149 |
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Now, imagine how many more- and more serious maulings there would be if Pit Bulls were legally |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 05:47 PM |
#155 |
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*cough*bullshit*cough* |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 05:51 PM |
#157 |
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You could actually have made an argument about the substitution effect |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 06:04 PM |
#164 |
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Why would you think that was my "thing" as if I like it? |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 04:29 PM |
#111 |
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Must be your thing, as you're advocating the conditions that unequivocably lead to it! |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:35 PM |
#120 |
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Media Bias in Reporting Dog Attacks |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:38 PM |
#121 |
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More twaddle. |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 04:38 PM |
#122 |
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Just like a child |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:43 PM |
#125 |
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Like a child, you accuse others when you're dead wrong. |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 04:46 PM |
#129 |
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You're advocationg ownership of a dangerous dog that- according to the study posted above |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 04:55 PM |
#132 |
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Show me one study that proves BSL is effective. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 04:58 PM |
#136 |
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Which study was that posted above? |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 04:59 PM |
#138 |
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post #118 |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 05:06 PM |
#143 |
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And 3 deaths per year is a "loaded gun" in your opinon? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 05:10 PM |
#146 |
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Hell- there have easily been that many major attacks in the Portland area alone! |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 05:16 PM |
#151 |
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Again.... Media Bias in Reporting Dog Attacks |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 05:17 PM |
#152 |
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Now it's the media's fault! |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 06:08 PM |
#165 |
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That's just the point - THEY DON'T! |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 06:45 PM |
#174 |
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Indeed. Sensationalized. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 06:50 PM |
#177 |
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So the "leads it bleeds" local media is covering up for certain breeds! |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 06:55 PM |
#180 |
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Exactly. They KNOW they will get more coverage with OMGPITBULL than "poodle bites man" |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 06:52 PM |
#178 |
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If a poodle did the kind of damage that pitbulls routinely inflict that would be an BIGGER story |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 07:31 PM |
#186 |
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You get shown the media coverage for different type dogs and yet you say it ain't so. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 07:32 PM |
#187 |
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You think that's some sort of bias- but fact is that the local media reports on all of these stories |
depakid |
Nov-29-09 07:46 PM |
#188 |
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Yes. Consider how the media reported four incidents that happened between August 18th and August 21 |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 06:55 PM |
#179 |
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You mean the CDC study referred to in the ABA article on BSL? |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 05:12 PM |
#148 |
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This is a must-see |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 05:42 PM |
#153 |
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Apparently, the media doesn't know what a dogo argentino is. |
flvegan |
Nov-29-09 05:49 PM |
#156 |
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Short hair, check. Dog, check. Clipped ears, maybe. Big head, sometimes. Bit, check. OMGPITBULL!!! |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:54 PM |
#160 |
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The K9 article from your post # 145 |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 07:00 PM |
#181 |
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:) |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 07:04 PM |
#182 |
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awwww, what a nice story. Our old dog is getting lumpy and slowing way down. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 07:21 PM |
#183 |
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See the CDC's statement on that |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-29-09 06:02 PM |
#163 |
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So I guess dog attacks have been entirely eliminated in Australia? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 05:02 PM |
#141 |
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The problem is not the breed of dog, but that certain breeds have become popular to be |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-29-09 08:32 PM |
#193 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-29-09 04:32 PM |
#116 |
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I guess you feel the same about German Shepherds, Rottweilers & Dobermans? |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 04:38 PM |
#123 |
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Good luck dealing with the pit bull lobby here. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-29-09 04:58 PM |
#135 |
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Good luck dealing with the fearful here. Being shown info in lieu of prejudices is so...strange. |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 05:01 PM |
#139 |
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That looked excruciatingly uncomfortable for both, but a definite awww moment. |
dustbunnie |
Nov-29-09 04:46 PM |
#128 |
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Oh i'm so won over now... not. n/t |
miyazaki |
Nov-29-09 05:14 PM |
#150 |
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sorry i'm not gonna watch a video of a pit bull attacking a small boy |
pitohui |
Nov-29-09 06:36 PM |
#171 |
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It's not bad. |
baldguy |
Nov-29-09 06:38 PM |
#173 |
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Do you not read the replies? It is a very sweet vid, that was the title of the video, sarcasm |
uppityperson |
Nov-29-09 06:47 PM |
#175 |
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Awwwww. But that doesn't look like a full PB to me. A mix at most? |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-29-09 08:41 PM |
#194 |
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