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2. If it's a 'world' concern
Edited on Thu Nov-26-09 01:24 PM by bigtree
Why is the U.S. force the overwhelmingly largest one and doesn't have Chinese troops* there (despite the fact they're neighbors)? At any rate, the international troops aren't in any hurry to escalate their own forces along with the U.S.. Some key allies are pulling out (Canada and Poland) and the negative politics in Britain (arguably our closest ally) is threatening their commitment as well.

Also, some NATO allies may delay on Afghan troops . . .

Brussels -- As US President Barack Obama readies to send extra troops to Afghanistan, NATO cautioned Wednesday that a number of US allies could wait until next year before following suit with reinforcements.

And, more importantly, what about the contribution and commitment to the U.S. initiated and dominated mission in the country from the Afghans themselves?

WASHINGTON, Nov 24 (IPS) - One in every four combat soldiers quit the Afghan National Army (ANA) during the year ending in September, published data by the U.S. Defence Department and the Inspector General for Reconstruction in Afghanistan reveals.

That high rate of turnover in the ANA, driven by extremely high rates of desertion, spells trouble for the strategy that President Barack Obama has reportedly decided on, which is said to include the dispatch of thousands of additional U.S. military trainers in order to rapidly increase the size of the ANA.

The ANA has been touted by U.S. officials for years as a success story. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal called in his August 2009 strategy paper for increasing the ANA to 134,000 troops by October 2010 and eventually to 240,000.

But an administration source, who insisted on speaking without attribution because of the sensitivity of the subject, confirmed to IPS that 25 percent has been used as the turnover rate for the ANA in internal discussions, and that it is regarded by some officials as a serious problem . . .

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Coalition casualties:

Coalition deaths in Afghanistan by country

USA: 857*
UK: 235
Canada: 132*
Germany: 40
France: 36
Denmark: 30
Spain: 26
Italy: 22
Netherlands: 21
Poland: 15
Australia: 11
Romania: 11
Estonia: 6
Norway: 4
Czech Republic: 3
Latvia: 3
Hungary: 2
Portugal: 2
South Korea: 2
Sweden: 2
Turkey: 2
Belgium: 1
Finland: 1
Lithuania: 1

TOTAL: 1,465

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  -The World Has Committed More than 50% of the Troops in Afghanistan berni_mccoy  Nov-26-09 01:05 PM   #0 
  - Someone has already unrecd this so they don't  Cha   Nov-26-09 01:15 PM   #1 
  - Well, they wanted the first response to importantly point out the UnRec  elocs   Nov-26-09 01:27 PM   #8 
     - It's only obvious they don't want any facts out..  Cha   Nov-26-09 01:30 PM   #9 
  - If it's a 'world' concern  bigtree   Nov-26-09 01:15 PM   #2 
  - k&r  spanone   Nov-26-09 01:17 PM   #3 
  - Most countries don't support either war.  HeresyLives   Nov-26-09 01:17 PM   #4 
  - The governments of some of the world have donated cannon-fodder.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-26-09 01:20 PM   #5 
  - I hope you're right and Obama isn't "going rogue" on the rest of the world  tularetom   Nov-26-09 01:21 PM   #6 
  - Not quite, the US has the majority of the troops there;  JonQ   Nov-26-09 01:25 PM   #7 
  - The US currently has 68,000 of the 110,000 troops which mean we have  neverforget   Nov-26-09 01:50 PM   #10 
  - stupid facts  bigtree   Nov-26-09 01:51 PM   #11 
  - I get my facts from the source: 71,030 ISAF troops, 34,800 American  berni_mccoy   Nov-26-09 02:09 PM   #13 
     - How many of those ISAF troops are american?  JonQ   Nov-26-09 04:42 PM   #14 
        - Isn't that exactly what I said?  berni_mccoy   Nov-26-09 07:23 PM   #17 
           - No no  JonQ   Nov-26-09 08:44 PM   #18 
              - ISAF US Forces 34,800; Foreign ISAF Forces 36,230. A difference of  neverforget   Nov-26-09 11:55 PM   #20 
                 - I get that  JonQ   Nov-27-09 10:34 AM   #25 
                    - Sorry that came off wrong. I agree with you 100%. The comment was  neverforget   Nov-27-09 11:52 AM   #27 
                       - Oh, ok  JonQ   Nov-27-09 09:16 PM   #28 
  - This is quite the cheer.  Arctic Dave   Nov-26-09 01:53 PM   #12 
  - Yes, if facts = cheer, then consider me a cheerleader.  berni_mccoy   Nov-26-09 07:19 PM   #15 
     - You get your 10g yet for forced corporate health insurance?  mullard12ax7   Nov-26-09 08:48 PM   #19 
        - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-27-09 01:10 AM   #23 
        - Thanks for the typical substance-lacking insult. FYI, I have two children with type-1 diabetes  berni_mccoy   Nov-27-09 09:50 AM   #24 
  - k & r n/t  R. P. McMurphy   Nov-26-09 07:22 PM   #16 
  - The World includes the US so it seems you are right.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-27-09 12:03 AM   #21 
  - Assuming that "the world" means non-US, your headline is false.  ConsAreLiars   Nov-27-09 12:58 AM   #22 
  - I would think that the world has committed 100% of the troops  Synicus Maximus   Nov-27-09 11:05 AM   #26 

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