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Wed Nov-25-09 04:29 PM
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| 11. kestrel, du rules apply to everyone |
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and take a look in the mirror with a post like that.
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| -AP: White House ‘Met Early and Often with Lobbyists’ on Health Care |
Hissyspit |
Nov-25-09 03:43 PM |
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+1 brings rec's to 0 |
the blues |
Nov-25-09 03:49 PM |
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It's called we were played. |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-25-09 03:52 PM |
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I wonder if Joe Lieberman and whatshisname who was from North |
roguevalley |
Nov-26-09 01:31 AM |
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And this is the deal they struck only they ran into some impediments |
bjobotts |
Nov-26-09 03:38 PM |
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Also Medicare's budget can be expanded to cover us all via reconciliation needing only 51 votes to p |
bjobotts |
Nov-26-09 03:53 PM |
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I would have met with same, if for no other reason than to be able to say |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-25-09 03:53 PM |
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Nov-25-09 03:59 PM |
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Nov-25-09 04:03 PM |
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kestrel, du rules apply to everyone |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 04:29 PM |
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I will wait till 2012, and then if the country needs to be shot in the head |
parasearchers |
Nov-25-09 05:27 PM |
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I'll wait until the final bill. I wait until his speech about Afghanistan. I might just wait... |
FormerDittoHead |
Nov-25-09 04:31 PM |
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Consider the present situation for a moment. |
Akoto |
Nov-25-09 04:37 PM |
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A "hard sell" to whom? Not the public, since the public wants it |
Tansy_Gold |
Nov-25-09 04:53 PM |
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Hey, no need to lecture me. |
Akoto |
Nov-25-09 05:54 PM |
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I draw a distinction between lobbyists and experts |
the blues |
Nov-25-09 04:27 PM |
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Well said.. |
sendero |
Nov-25-09 07:54 PM |
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Technically |
Crzyrussell |
Nov-26-09 01:50 PM |
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ljm2002 |
Nov-25-09 06:13 PM |
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Yeah... |
sendero |
Nov-25-09 07:52 PM |
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But they do teach how to dispense DLC hogwash. Too bad it only pays five bucks an hour. |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-25-09 10:53 PM |
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Shame he listened to the corporate side more than those who care about us. |
Zhade |
Nov-26-09 07:06 PM |
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He said no more lobbying before he got elected. |
RedCloud |
Nov-25-09 05:18 PM |
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So that means he's not going to consult with anyone? |
HuckleB |
Nov-25-09 07:15 PM |
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+1 brings it to recs 53 nt |
ooglymoogly |
Nov-25-09 10:19 PM |
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117 :) |
Bluebear |
Nov-26-09 04:49 PM |
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why he met with lobbyist? |
Okota |
Nov-26-09 12:22 AM |
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Nov-26-09 08:08 AM |
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Money........... |
SergeStorms |
Nov-26-09 06:08 AM |
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Apparently they also met with critics of the health care system |
Cant trust em |
Nov-25-09 03:52 PM |
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yes they did, with single payer advocates, dartmouth atlas researchers as well as corporate reps. |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 04:29 PM |
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Flood insurance. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-25-09 05:13 PM |
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The insurance companies are not stake holders. They are leeches who |
Raineyb |
Nov-25-09 06:05 PM |
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It appears he was doing what was needed in order to |
Sukie |
Nov-25-09 03:59 PM |
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lol |
Bluebear |
Nov-25-09 05:04 PM |
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I will see your lol and raise you a guffaw. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-09 05:58 PM |
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And I'll toss in a haw haw haw. |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-25-09 10:55 PM |
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Yep, amazing rewriting of history some here want to do.Anyone else remember when DR.s were shut out? |
Go2Peace |
Nov-26-09 12:12 AM |
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+ 10 |
MissDeeds |
Nov-25-09 11:10 PM |
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I'M WITH YOU PT |
Skittles |
Nov-26-09 01:10 AM |
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XOXOXOX |
Bluebear |
Nov-26-09 01:50 AM |
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Apparently, for some of you... the expected process for a loan application |
liberation |
Nov-26-09 12:46 PM |
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That's the headline from rawstory? I would have thought David |
babylonsister |
Nov-25-09 04:10 PM |
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What about Patient's Groups, Community Clinics, Non Profits? |
radhika |
Nov-25-09 04:19 PM |
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The same lobbyists who were going to be sent packing by the new sheriff? |
change_notfinetuning |
Nov-25-09 04:29 PM |
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can't wait to hear the spin on this |
optimator |
Nov-25-09 04:59 PM |
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what spin...he met with both sides, and the CEOs left pissed |
AllTooEasy |
Nov-25-09 05:07 PM |
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why were they pissed? The insurance companies got a hand out... |
winyanstaz |
Nov-26-09 01:55 AM |
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But O-man looks hawt in a swimsuit so all is forgiven |
Bluebear |
Nov-25-09 05:03 PM |
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and aren't they a gorgeous couple? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Nov-25-09 08:16 PM |
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Michelle is so hawt! All is forgiven. |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-25-09 10:57 PM |
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old story, we knew this. His group meeting with the CEO's was broadcasted on every news channel |
AllTooEasy |
Nov-25-09 05:04 PM |
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I know Obama isn't quite the president I wan't him to be yet, but this looks like a good thing to me |
sasquatch |
Nov-25-09 05:16 PM |
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So Physicians for a National Health Program got a meeting? |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 06:29 PM |
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+1 |
Go2Peace |
Nov-26-09 12:15 AM |
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Right and that's not all they met with.. |
Cha |
Nov-25-09 06:04 PM |
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Wait, so the AP is a TRUSTED source now? |
Barack_America |
Nov-25-09 06:07 PM |
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Raw Story. Before you shoot the messenger, learn to aim better |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 06:33 PM |
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I am interested in proper investigations on both party hacks |
bikingaz |
Nov-25-09 07:11 PM |
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Did you miss the headline? |
Barack_America |
Nov-25-09 07:11 PM |
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So let me get this straight. You advise only reading headlines? |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 07:20 PM |
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No but apparently you do. |
Barack_America |
Nov-25-09 08:04 PM |
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Ugh, I was wrong. |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 09:26 PM |
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Don't worry about it. |
Barack_America |
Nov-26-09 09:31 AM |
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I'm trusting AP less and less. Lately they seem to enjoy getting LW mad at Obama. /nt |
philly_bob |
Nov-25-09 07:37 PM |
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I can't stand AP either, but it is irrelevant wrt this story. |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 07:50 PM |
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No, the reporting is not originally from Raw Story. |
Barack_America |
Nov-25-09 08:13 PM |
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Thank you, please see my post 50 for my apology. |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 09:27 PM |
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It's been an issue ever since Fournier took over the DC bureau. |
Barack_America |
Nov-25-09 08:10 PM |
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I think this was stated on numerous occasions |
HughMoran |
Nov-25-09 07:25 PM |
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When Obama blocked the list of visitors to White House he made it news. |
Mithreal |
Nov-25-09 07:40 PM |
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Compromise in action. |
anonymous171 |
Nov-25-09 08:12 PM |
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Didn't Obama say that NO lobbyists were allowed at the WH back in January? |
earth mom |
Nov-25-09 09:23 PM |
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Oh, but that's so yesterday |
MissDeeds |
Nov-25-09 11:15 PM |
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indeed |
Bluebear |
Nov-26-09 07:03 PM |
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Lobbyists are still accepted? WTF |
Bryn |
Nov-25-09 09:37 PM |
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Of course, they did. The White House is carrying water for the health care industry. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-25-09 10:26 PM |
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cuz god forbid he make an informed decision. |
mopinko |
Nov-25-09 10:47 PM |
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Lobbyists are vital to an informed decision? Some of "you people" can explain away anything. |
Bluebear |
Nov-26-09 12:27 AM |
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and some of you people |
mopinko |
Nov-26-09 07:04 AM |
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Okay, so even though the 3rd line of this article states that he met with |
Number23 |
Nov-25-09 11:31 PM |
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Yep. See post 39. |
redqueen |
Nov-25-09 11:48 PM |
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Obama said no lobbyists would be welcome in his White House, and this isn't what's happening. |
Bluebear |
Nov-26-09 12:25 AM |
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!!!11 |
sudopod |
Nov-26-09 01:03 AM |
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Didn't you leave DU? |
Number23 |
Nov-26-09 02:01 PM |
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The AP will play us for chumps every day |
sudopod |
Nov-26-09 12:59 AM |
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Right. Some don't need AP. They're happy riding the Ferris Wheel of Foolishness all day, every day |
Number23 |
Nov-26-09 02:10 PM |
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well duh! this was obvious the day he stood there with all those insurance ceos behind him |
unblock |
Nov-26-09 12:27 AM |
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Oh I would have, I'd have been all, "So let's hear it. Lemme hear what a forked, $300K tongue... |
bridgit |
Nov-26-09 12:36 AM |
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And yet, insurance companies HATE the proposed bills |
johnaries |
Nov-26-09 12:36 AM |
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They are paying nearly $500,000,000 for influence. Not block, write. |
Mithreal |
Nov-26-09 12:56 AM |
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I have a way around this. |
sudopod |
Nov-26-09 01:04 AM |
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Sounds right. Or we could work for public financing of elections |
Mithreal |
Nov-26-09 01:33 AM |
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Public funding would be awesome. |
sudopod |
Nov-26-09 01:49 AM |
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Thom Hartmann regularly mentions Portland's Campaign Finance Fund. |
Mithreal |
Nov-26-09 02:02 AM |
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When the hell did that become OK? |
sudopod |
Nov-26-09 02:24 AM |
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Contractors yes, but I just don't know |
Mithreal |
Nov-26-09 03:02 AM |
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Hey, have a Happy Thanksgiving. I am signing out. |
Mithreal |
Nov-26-09 03:05 AM |
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You too! :) nt |
sudopod |
Nov-26-09 04:17 AM |
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I think the people have been screwed...again.... |
winyanstaz |
Nov-26-09 01:54 AM |
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If Obama had wanted to, he could've got a single payer system enacted. |
Marr |
Nov-26-09 02:46 AM |
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Rahm's brother must've helped, too. |
Octafish |
Nov-26-09 08:21 AM |
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Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. |
California Griz |
Nov-26-09 11:26 AM |
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‘Met Early and Often with Lobbyists’ = Loaded language. |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-26-09 12:10 PM |
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So that's where Single Payer went |
dpbrown |
Nov-26-09 12:40 PM |
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It's not about the OP's, it's about the comments that ensue.... |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-26-09 12:53 PM |
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But hey, the President would have been happy to meet with any one of us |
truedelphi |
Nov-26-09 01:41 PM |
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did you read the full article proper and not only the headline blasted? |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Nov-26-09 07:25 PM |
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But that does not undo the terrible damage done to this country when Obama's initial meme |
truedelphi |
Nov-26-09 07:45 PM |
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Was it a cash or credit card transaction...er..meeting? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-26-09 01:53 PM |
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I take this as a good thing. Shouldn't the President listen to ALL Sides of an Issue? |
berni_mccoy |
Nov-26-09 07:27 PM |
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you gotta listen to all sides. not unusual imo. unfortunately lobbying is 100% legal. |
spanone |
Nov-26-09 08:32 PM |
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