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62.  Bugliosi also made a convincing case about Helter Skelter
But it wasn't the truth.
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  -A Question For Those Who Think Oswald Acted Alone WillyT  Nov-22-09 08:03 PM   #0 
  - Because Oswald was such a freak nobody would want to work with him.  El Supremo   Nov-22-09 08:08 PM   #1 
  - Garrison's Book Was One  WillyT   Nov-22-09 08:14 PM   #5 
  - Crossfire by Jim Marrs...  lame54   Nov-23-09 11:40 AM   #131 
  - You seem to have spent a lot of time with Oswald  mcablue   Nov-22-09 08:49 PM   #19 
  - People are still well informed even if they haven't read Sarah Palin's or Beck's book  stray cat   Nov-22-09 08:09 PM   #2 
  - Oswald was there. All it took was 3 or 4 shots. Nuff for me.  applegrove   Nov-22-09 08:11 PM   #3 
  - Oswald did it because "he was there" and 3 or 4 shots were fired. Now THAT's a winning tactic!!  mcablue   Nov-22-09 08:50 PM   #21 
  - The parrafin test the Dallas police gave Oswald proved he did not fire a rifle.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:03 PM   #31 
  - No it didn't.  FatDave   Nov-22-09 10:14 PM   #78 
  - And to consider more would just be too exhausting, right? Rationalization is the key to happyness.  rhett o rick   Nov-22-09 11:38 PM   #103 
  - I can't speak for anybody else  el_bryanto   Nov-22-09 08:11 PM   #4 
  - I read Posner's Case Closed about 16 years  exboyfil   Nov-22-09 08:15 PM   #6 
  - The House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded the JFK likely was assassinated  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:08 PM   #38 
     - That's what author Larry Beinhart calls a "fog fact"  RufusTFirefly   Nov-22-09 10:01 PM   #74 
  - Bugliosi's book convinced me  NWHarkness   Nov-22-09 08:15 PM   #7 
  - He did a good job making a compelling case  ProgressiveProfessor   Nov-22-09 08:25 PM   #12 
  - Bugliosi's 5lb., 1000-pg. book has been widely discredited  ngant17   Nov-22-09 08:44 PM   #16 
  - Bugliosi's book scared the hell out of me re the bias professional prosecutors  glitch   Nov-22-09 08:56 PM   #25 
     - Exactly!!! Never rely on a book or argument by a litigator of any kind.  HamdenRice   Nov-23-09 05:13 AM   #111 
  - Bugliosi also made a convincing case about Helter Skelter  johnnie   Nov-22-09 09:41 PM   #62 
     - Good point. nt  glitch   Nov-23-09 09:57 AM   #117 
  - You are wasting your time.  the other one   Nov-22-09 08:16 PM   #8 
  - Look... I'm Curious... I Can Respect People Who've...  WillyT   Nov-22-09 08:23 PM   #11 
     - So, what do you think about this thread you started?  glitch   Nov-22-09 10:56 PM   #89 
        - Not Surprised...  WillyT   Nov-22-09 11:22 PM   #97 
           - I still think the emotional drivel is the most interesting even if it is predictable.  glitch   Nov-22-09 11:37 PM   #102 
  - I was a year behind you in school and ditto, my poor mom.  EFerrari   Nov-22-09 08:18 PM   #9 
  - I've read several books on the assassination.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 08:21 PM   #10 
  - Conally didn't believe that Oswald acted alone.  merh   Nov-22-09 08:47 PM   #18 
  - What does what Connally believed have to do with what the physical evidence indicates?  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 08:50 PM   #20 
     - The physical evidence does not support the lone gunman theory.  merh   Nov-22-09 08:57 PM   #26 
        - Yes, it does.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:01 PM   #30 
           - House Select Committee didn't agree with you:  EFerrari   Nov-22-09 09:08 PM   #39 
           - The House Select Committee conclusion was based on questionable acoustic evidence.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:15 PM   #46 
              - Well, no, that's not what their report says. And even if it was,  EFerrari   Nov-22-09 09:27 PM   #56 
              - Actually it is what the report says.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:37 PM   #60 
              - McAdams information is outdated and he has too many factual holes.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:50 PM   #66 
              - And some random nutter whose site has links including 'New World Order'...  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:53 PM   #70 
                 - McAdams is a disinformation agent. He is not highly regarded as an assasination scholar.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 10:20 PM   #79 
                    - I'm sorry, but you linked to a Holocaust denial site. So your sources? Not credible.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 10:30 PM   #81 
                       - Please show me where any of the links show anything approaching Holocaust denial.  EOTE   Nov-23-09 10:18 AM   #119 
              - Science and Justice took the NRC study apart and found it was seriously flawed.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 10:07 PM   #76 
           - The House Select Committee on Assassinations ruled conspiracy.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:12 PM   #43 
           - See reply above.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:16 PM   #47 
           - The medical witnesses who observed and treated Kennedy  merh   Nov-22-09 09:27 PM   #54 
              - Emergency medical personnel dealing with massive head trauma...  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:36 PM   #58 
                 - It wasn't years later that the doctors and medical personnel  merh   Nov-22-09 11:26 PM   #99 
                    - Actually  JoeyT   Nov-23-09 03:05 AM   #110 
  - Spider Jerusalem, if you have "read several books on the assassination" and insist that:  bertman   Nov-22-09 10:23 PM   #80 
  - Actually, I've read most of those.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 10:33 PM   #83 
     - Only if you believe that the FBI, CIA and Warren Commission would not suppress or alter  bertman   Nov-22-09 10:46 PM   #87 
  - So all the books you read all confirm your belief? How convenient. nt  rhett o rick   Nov-22-09 11:40 PM   #104 
  - An important question, I think where someone stands on the JFK assassination tells you a lot about  glitch   Nov-22-09 08:38 PM   #13 
  - I think it says more that so many people are convinced it was a conspiracy.  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 08:45 PM   #17 
     - Which books did you read, btw? You said you've read several, so you must've had an interest. nt  glitch   Nov-22-09 09:04 PM   #34 
     - Garrison's, along with various others...  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:06 PM   #36 
        - I realize you consider the subject settled but you might give James Douglass a read. nt  glitch   Nov-22-09 09:13 PM   #44 
     - House Select Committee on Assassinations ruled conspiracy in the JFK assassination.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:18 PM   #48 
     - The evidence indicates they were wrong  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 09:20 PM   #51 
        - Then why do you keep putting the same false evidence out there?  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:37 PM   #59 
           - What false evidence?  Vattel   Nov-22-09 09:52 PM   #68 
     - How about those of us that are skeptical? Not wanting to believe the pat answer pushed on us by our  rhett o rick   Nov-22-09 11:42 PM   #105 
  - I voted for JFK-in kindergarten and he won!  Loudmxr   Nov-22-09 08:43 PM   #14 
  - I keep wondering why Oswald was shot and killed. From what I've read, Jack Ruby..  BlueJazz   Nov-22-09 08:44 PM   #15 
  - Jack Ruby - friend of Dick Nixon and the Bush Crime Family since 1947  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-23-09 09:56 AM   #116 
  - Read James Ellroy's "American Tabloid".  paparush   Nov-23-09 10:27 AM   #121 
  - That's the thing that probably causes the conspiracy theories  treestar   Nov-23-09 11:20 AM   #125 
  - For me, it just doesn't matter much to me anymore.  aikoaiko   Nov-22-09 08:50 PM   #22 
  - The magic bullet theory has been disproven. It is not the official U.S. government account of the  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:23 PM   #53 
     - House Select Committee on Assassinations stated that Oswald killed JFK  Kaleva   Nov-22-09 09:27 PM   #55 
        - House Select Committee on Assassinations ruled JFK likely died as a result  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:42 PM   #63 
           - The Committee ruled that Oswald was the person who killed Kennedy..  Kaleva   Nov-22-09 09:59 PM   #73 
              - Oops... Minnesota judge: CIA probably misled panel he led on JFK assassination  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 10:59 PM   #90 
                 - So the findings of the Committee are open to question?  Kaleva   Nov-23-09 08:31 AM   #112 
  - Fuel for the fire:  cliffordu   Nov-22-09 08:52 PM   #23 
  - Oawald had no powder burns on his face or hands...  JamesA1102   Nov-22-09 08:53 PM   #24 
  - No, it doesn't...  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-22-09 08:58 PM   #29 
  - Except that...  JamesA1102   Nov-22-09 11:33 PM   #100 
  - So the death of Officer Tippit was part of a set up?  Kaleva   Nov-22-09 09:11 PM   #42 
     - No  JamesA1102   Nov-22-09 11:34 PM   #101 
  - Who are all these inquisitive people you keep running into?  Dude_CalmDown   Nov-22-09 08:57 PM   #27 
  - I used to laugh at people who thought  DemBones DemBones   Nov-22-09 08:58 PM   #28 
  - books, essays, and articles are not proof  Kaleva   Nov-22-09 09:04 PM   #32 
  - When it comes to your opinion vs. the House Select Committee on Assassinations,  Individualist   Nov-22-09 09:09 PM   #40 
     - They did recommend further investigation, but the matter was dropped.  glitch   Nov-22-09 09:14 PM   #45 
     - You must then agree with the the House Select Committee on Assassinations  Kaleva   Nov-22-09 09:19 PM   #49 
        - The far right wing, most specifically the same rabid anti-communists who opposed FDR  glitch   Nov-22-09 10:06 PM   #75 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Nov-22-09 09:04 PM   #33 
  - Years ago I did my own research in about 1976 or so  Gman   Nov-22-09 09:05 PM   #35 
  - Interesting. I traveled to Dallas on a business trip about ten years after you did.  avaistheone1   Nov-22-09 09:35 PM   #57 
     - I've always thought the School Book Depository building 6th floor window  Gman   Nov-23-09 11:51 AM   #134 
  - books alone do not make truth. i can point you to hundreds of book about ufos...  1   Nov-22-09 09:06 PM   #37 
  - People make quite lucrative careers out of conspiracy denial as well.  glitch   Nov-22-09 09:21 PM   #52 
  - I agree. Stone makes awful films. JFK was a POS.  Loudmxr   Nov-22-09 09:58 PM   #71 
  - I don't believe in Bigfoot.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Nov-22-09 09:10 PM   #41 
  - The solution is to solve the case of Officer Tibbets. Why was he so far out of his patrol zone? Was  CK_John   Nov-22-09 09:19 PM   #50 
  - I agree. Maybe not the full solution. But its one of the odd occurrences that day.  Loudmxr   Nov-22-09 09:48 PM   #65 
  - I finally saw "Executive Action" a couple years ago  dflprincess   Nov-22-09 09:40 PM   #61 
  - When It Came Out In Theater, It Only Lasted A Few Days...  WillyT   Nov-22-09 09:50 PM   #67 
     - uwe boll movies only last a few days in theaters too. bad movies have that fate...  1   Nov-22-09 11:04 PM   #93 
  - Damn conspiracy authors are just in it for the money  RufusTFirefly   Nov-22-09 09:47 PM   #64 
  - That you would even make that comparison is ludicrous.  FatDave   Nov-22-09 10:44 PM   #86 
  - This is all I ever needed to see  Boxerfan   Nov-22-09 09:52 PM   #69 
  - A couple videos I posted in another thread.  FatDave   Nov-22-09 09:59 PM   #72 
  - Occam cite is fallacious since the two theories do not equally well describe the observed facts.  glitch   Nov-22-09 10:30 PM   #82 
     - Bullshit.  FatDave   Nov-22-09 10:35 PM   #84 
        - No, it really doesn't. Sorry. Coups do exist quite frequently in history.  glitch   Nov-22-09 10:50 PM   #88 
           - I'm sorry, I should have said "an undetected coup"  FatDave   Nov-22-09 11:06 PM   #94 
              - I think you put too much value on simplicity, human beings (and the structures they create)  glitch   Nov-22-09 11:22 PM   #96 
  - All the facts point to Oswald being the sole killer  tonysam   Nov-22-09 10:12 PM   #77 
  - You should be ashamed of yourself for being such a shill, tonysam. Ruby was a mob hood  bertman   Nov-22-09 10:40 PM   #85 
  - I have some great land in Florida  johnnie   Nov-22-09 11:04 PM   #92 
  - the rifle LHO supposedly orders by mail  ngant17   Nov-23-09 03:01 AM   #109 
  - If you have an opinion on this matter and you haven't read JFK and the Unspeakable -- you're behind.  Zen Democrat   Nov-22-09 11:03 PM   #91 
  - +1  RufusTFirefly   Nov-22-09 11:19 PM   #95 
  - Strongly agreed. nt  glitch   Nov-22-09 11:25 PM   #98 
  - People believe that Oswald acted alone because it makes their life less complicated. They feel  rhett o rick   Nov-22-09 11:46 PM   #106 
  - Yep. So much more comfy to just accept the official story and think things are fine  havocmom   Nov-23-09 09:45 AM   #114 
  - I agree. The truth is so challenging. nt  rhett o rick   Nov-23-09 11:00 AM   #122 
  - The various top-down state propagandists know how to work inherent properties of the public mind  Echo In Light   Nov-23-09 09:58 AM   #118 
     - Very well put. nt  rhett o rick   Nov-23-09 11:01 AM   #123 
  - Science.  Maru Kitteh   Nov-22-09 11:48 PM   #107 
  - I believe the single bullet theory  notesdev   Nov-23-09 01:52 AM   #108 
  - "Back and to the left" - The Zapruder Film  cbdo2007   Nov-23-09 09:41 AM   #113 
  - Many who deny inside job re 9/11 are unable to say how many towers fell that day  Echo In Light   Nov-23-09 09:48 AM   #115 
  - 400+ people in Dealey Plaza. 289 interviewed by the Warren Commission.  paparush   Nov-23-09 10:25 AM   #120 
  - I am convinced we will never know if Oswald acted alone or not  Taverner   Nov-23-09 11:08 AM   #124 
  - I know this might amaze people  Johonny   Nov-23-09 11:28 AM   #126 
  - I graduated with Oswald's daughter, June  Ishoutandscream2   Nov-23-09 11:32 AM   # 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-09 11:41 AM   #132 
     - June and her mother and sister have some major differences  Ishoutandscream2   Nov-23-09 11:47 AM   #133 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-09 11:32 AM   #127 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-09 11:40 AM   #130 
  - Gerald Ford could never have kept the secret.  floridablue   Nov-23-09 11:34 AM   #128 
  - I don't think Oswald acted alone...  brooklynite   Nov-23-09 11:36 AM   #129 

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