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Sun Nov-22-09 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #53 |
| -Today I was prevented from saving a life |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-21-09 10:09 PM |
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K&R |
Skittles |
Nov-21-09 10:11 PM |
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Yep. It is insane. Plenty of risky behavior among the whole population that's not excluded. |
havocmom |
Nov-21-09 10:15 PM |
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I understood the original exclusion, when much was unknown |
Skittles |
Nov-21-09 10:29 PM |
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Yep |
havocmom |
Nov-21-09 10:56 PM |
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I am so sorry you were stopped... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Nov-21-09 10:14 PM |
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K&R |
Irishonly |
Nov-21-09 10:16 PM |
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Stupid of me to suggest perhapsebecause I'm not gay but |
napi21 |
Nov-21-09 10:19 PM |
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Like I said, the recipient's mother who was running the table knew us very well. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-21-09 10:48 PM |
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That or don't you really think the mother would have kept quiet |
napi21 |
Nov-21-09 10:53 PM |
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Rimshot. |
OnyxCollie |
Nov-21-09 11:01 PM |
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I need to look on the bright side of this all |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-21-09 11:02 PM |
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I'm sorry and I concur. |
OnyxCollie |
Nov-21-09 11:16 PM |
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Jimmy Buffet had it right. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-21-09 11:17 PM |
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Can you go somewhere else, separately and say you're straight? |
Maraya1969 |
Nov-22-09 03:47 AM |
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This is unbelievable |
malaise |
Nov-22-09 08:54 AM |
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Ok that was funny. |
SmileyRose |
Nov-21-09 11:47 PM |
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Frank DeCaro put it best. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-22-09 08:40 AM |
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DUzy. nt |
Dead_Parrot |
Nov-22-09 04:11 AM |
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lol |
barbtries |
Nov-22-09 06:16 AM |
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You Should Not Have to Treat Being Gay Like a Dirty Secret In Order to Save a Life. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-22-09 01:03 AM |
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k and r--thank you for posting this-the short-sighted stupidity of the medical system is almost |
niyad |
Nov-21-09 10:19 PM |
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k & r |
abelenkpe |
Nov-21-09 10:20 PM |
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This is crazy. |
Rick Myers |
Nov-21-09 10:20 PM |
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there is so much of this crap in every dept in the government |
madrchsod |
Nov-21-09 10:24 PM |
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"young black women" |
omega minimo |
Nov-21-09 10:37 PM |
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Exactly. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-21-09 10:49 PM |
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Not. |
omega minimo |
Nov-21-09 11:21 PM |
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how about, god forbid, some STATISTICS |
paulsby |
Nov-22-09 05:15 AM |
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I agree completely. It veered off to gratuitous and actually factually inaccurate issues |
HamdenRice |
Nov-22-09 06:00 AM |
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With respect to bone marrow donations |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-22-09 08:30 AM |
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Sorry, I meant I cannot donate blood. I never tried to register to donate marrow. nt |
HamdenRice |
Nov-22-09 08:33 AM |
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I was just clarifying - not criticizing |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-22-09 08:49 AM |
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HIV/AIDS is the number one cause of death for African American |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-22-09 06:39 AM |
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Misleading statistic and an erroneous overall view of the prevalence of the disease |
HamdenRice |
Nov-22-09 07:50 AM |
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Please don't project |
omega minimo |
Nov-22-09 02:36 PM |
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Yes, young black women. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-21-09 11:34 PM |
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and the subtext |
omega minimo |
Nov-21-09 11:40 PM |
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K&R nt |
PJPhreak |
Nov-21-09 10:39 PM |
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Congress members have a riskier lifestyle than most gay men these days |
csziggy |
Nov-21-09 10:46 PM |
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Was "Went to a whore house in Thailand." on there too? |
imdjh |
Nov-21-09 11:07 PM |
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Those guys are actually barred as well - |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-22-09 08:39 AM |
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lol So the Senate and their wives can't donate. (Say it like Caligula, is sounds more dramatic.) |
imdjh |
Nov-22-09 08:07 PM |
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What a ridiculous situation. |
stevedeshazer |
Nov-21-09 11:11 PM |
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It is past time for some sanity to return to our nation.... |
winyanstaz |
Nov-21-09 11:14 PM |
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K and R. It's ridiculous. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-21-09 11:20 PM |
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I'm sorry you guys hit that wall. It's based on these guidelines from the CDC, |
pinto |
Nov-21-09 11:28 PM |
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Reaching for the health provider hat |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-09 11:42 PM |
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I Sure Hope You're Not a Health Provider In MY Area. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-22-09 01:11 AM |
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It is not what I believe. It is what the CDC believes |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-22-09 01:51 PM |
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The Red Cross Disagrees With You. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-22-09 07:58 PM |
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The ARC has been in the midst of a few scandals |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-22-09 09:23 PM |
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Ah, So You ARE Claiming To Be More Of An Expert On Keeping the Blood Supply Safe. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-22-09 10:21 PM |
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I wil repeat this, not me CDC |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-22-09 10:40 PM |
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The Red Cross wants to ban donations by all MSMs who are sexually active |
HamdenRice |
Nov-23-09 06:31 AM |
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So how do you explain the fact that while discriminating against |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-22-09 06:54 AM |
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There's no comparison in terms of risk. Your stats are wrong. See post 52. nt |
HamdenRice |
Nov-22-09 08:27 AM |
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Do they take them from drug users? NO |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-22-09 01:53 PM |
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Damn! As far as I am concerned Bryan is your husband! |
MadMaddie |
Nov-21-09 11:44 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-21-09 11:47 PM |
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I was 100% with you, until one paragraph: |
Deja Q |
Nov-21-09 11:48 PM |
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When the ban was instituted, there was no real test for the virus, itself |
Warpy |
Nov-22-09 12:54 AM |
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Exactly! In Norway, every new blood donor |
KitSileya |
Nov-22-09 03:00 AM |
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The "new sex partner" question is much more valid |
Warpy |
Nov-22-09 10:35 AM |
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Right. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-22-09 01:07 PM |
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Warpy- test not suffcient. |
katkat |
Nov-22-09 08:37 AM |
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That's as true for straight women |
Warpy |
Nov-22-09 10:34 AM |
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K&R |
Vidar |
Nov-22-09 03:04 AM |
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I can't recommend this post enough ... |
NanceGreggs |
Nov-22-09 03:08 AM |
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rational and eloquent |
paulsby |
Nov-22-09 05:18 AM |
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You need to use the old Google and educate youself |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-22-09 07:05 AM |
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i am well aware of the history |
paulsby |
Nov-22-09 01:13 PM |
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For stats, see post 52 nt |
HamdenRice |
Nov-22-09 08:08 AM |
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thank you nt |
paulsby |
Nov-22-09 01:13 PM |
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you make really good points |
barbtries |
Nov-22-09 06:14 AM |
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There was a petition circulating about this time last year. |
brewens |
Nov-22-09 09:47 AM |
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There are so many questions that could better weed out the risks. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-22-09 01:18 PM |
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Sometimes the stupid is unbearable. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-22-09 07:19 AM |
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Recommended +1,000,000,000 |
graywarrior |
Nov-22-09 08:20 AM |
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The testing process is not painful at all. It consists of... |
brewens |
Nov-22-09 08:46 AM |
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Hospitals deal with HIV+ patients |
supernova |
Nov-22-09 09:00 AM |
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Our concern is collecting as much blood as possible... |
brewens |
Nov-22-09 09:19 AM |
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No one is saying that people with AIDS or HIV should be donating |
dsc |
Nov-22-09 09:45 AM |
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The way we do it now is effective. |
brewens |
Nov-22-09 09:55 AM |
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I can tell you now that there are tons of gay men lying and giving blood |
dsc |
Nov-22-09 09:58 AM |
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As a Gay Male Who Is Not Celebate, You Have Classified Me As "High Risk". |
Toasterlad |
Nov-22-09 10:26 PM |
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I didn't classify anybody as anything and I never referred specifically to gay males. |
brewens |
Nov-23-09 08:35 AM |
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Beautiful post |
supernova |
Nov-22-09 08:57 AM |
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I did ask his mother to look into it. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-22-09 01:12 PM |
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Obama could change this policy tomorrow |
dsc |
Nov-22-09 09:33 AM |
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No he couldn't and even if he could, shouldn't. Politicians making science policy? |
HamdenRice |
Nov-22-09 09:47 AM |
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Name removed |
Nov-22-09 09:51 AM |
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Since bio-hazardious donations, such as blood, sperm, and bone marrow are tested for |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-22-09 10:55 AM |
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He could order that it be reviewed. |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-22-09 01:08 PM |
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Scientists Are Asking for the Ban to Be Overturned, And Politicians Are Standing In the Way. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-22-09 08:03 PM |
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Do you have a link? |
HamdenRice |
Nov-23-09 04:46 AM |
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Here is a link, from one, count it one, google search |
dsc |
Nov-23-09 05:05 AM |
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Sorry, but that link doesn't support your argument at all |
HamdenRice |
Nov-23-09 05:33 AM |
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that is what I have repeatedly advocated for, so stop lying about what I have said |
dsc |
Nov-23-09 11:09 AM |
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Perhaps I misunderstood you. Most MSMs would still be excluded from giving blood |
HamdenRice |
Nov-23-09 11:21 AM |
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I always point that out when we have blood drives at work. Gay men are banned from |
beyurslf |
Nov-22-09 11:03 AM |
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My oldest and best friend |
LWolf |
Nov-22-09 01:54 PM |
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So only virgins who have lived in a plastic bubble all their lives should donate? |
McCamy Taylor |
Nov-22-09 02:20 PM |
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Completely Inane |
colsohlibgal |
Nov-22-09 02:26 PM |
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I was tested two weeks ago and they didn't ask me that question, plus |
Bentcorner |
Nov-22-09 03:15 PM |
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Interesting - I didn't remember any questions about sex partners |
Ms. Toad |
Nov-22-09 03:51 PM |
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Breaks my heart to read this |
JustAnotherGen |
Nov-22-09 04:39 PM |
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That is absolutely crazy. |
Mad_Dem_X |
Nov-22-09 07:39 PM |
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K&R |
Luciferous |
Nov-22-09 07:42 PM |
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I'm curious. |
gorfle |
Nov-22-09 07:55 PM |
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his point is monogomous same sex behavior is no more or less risky |
dsc |
Nov-23-09 05:24 AM |
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Same goes for drug use. |
gorfle |
Nov-23-09 09:54 AM |
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interveinous drug use is bad health wise in and of itself |
dsc |
Nov-23-09 11:11 AM |
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True. |
gorfle |
Nov-23-09 11:26 AM |
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Re: Today I was prevented.... |
kurtzapril4 |
Nov-22-09 09:30 PM |
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Probably had to put the clause for their insurance policy |
marshall |
Nov-22-09 09:53 PM |
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Welcome to statistics...nt |
Lagomorph |
Nov-23-09 05:21 AM |
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Hell,I should be on the top of the list-as a nurse |
w8liftinglady |
Nov-23-09 09:17 AM |
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Ridiculous! |
latebloomer |
Nov-23-09 11:38 AM |
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I've thought of this a couple of times when I've gone to give blood |
yurbud |
Nov-23-09 11:44 AM |
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I never said it was big-D Discrimination in the bigoted sense |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-23-09 01:09 PM |
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I don't think it's discrimination out of bigotry but out of fear of lawyers |
yurbud |
Nov-23-09 03:01 PM |
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It's not the blood center, it's the FDA. |
brewens |
Nov-23-09 07:31 PM |
#122 |
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