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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 04:13 PM
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1. If a person's share of employer based care
is too expensive - then they can absolutely go to the exchange and use the subsidy and find something affordable.

They are not requiring business to pay for whatever plan the employee chooses, that's what they aren't mandating. The employer will still have the power of numbers to negotiate premiums and will still be responsible to help pay for it.

It isn't a question of not allowing working individuals to join the public option; it's a question of not mandating employers to add the expense of managing a different plan for every employee and having their own premium rates go up as they lose employees out of their plan.
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  -So I know that real national health care is a dream, but about the public option, Cleita  Nov-21-09 03:59 PM   #0 
  - If a person's share of employer based care  sandnsea   Nov-21-09 04:13 PM   #1 
  - You don't get my point. There should be no "if".  Cleita   Nov-21-09 04:28 PM   #2 
     - Who is going to pay for it? n/t  sandnsea   Nov-21-09 04:47 PM   #3 
        - It's already paid for. It's known as part of your FICA deduction on your  Cleita   Nov-21-09 05:03 PM   #4 
           - That is not enough to add infinite people  sandnsea   Nov-21-09 06:37 PM   #5 
              - What infinite people?  Cleita   Nov-21-09 06:43 PM   #6 
              - It doesn't work for senior citizens  FLDCVADem   Nov-21-09 06:44 PM   #7 
              - Oh bullshit. I'm a senior citizen and it's the best insurance and one I  Cleita   Nov-21-09 06:48 PM   #8 
                 - It's providing the care  FLDCVADem   Nov-21-09 06:55 PM   #10 
                    - Reign in the PhRMA costs and get rid of the privatized Medicare  Cleita   Nov-21-09 06:59 PM   #11 
                       - Sorry, but that just isn't so  FLDCVADem   Nov-21-09 07:25 PM   #15 
                          - Well, there are a few Senators who will disagree with you like  Cleita   Nov-21-09 07:30 PM   #16 
              - Whatever - but that has nothing to do with the current bill  sandnsea   Nov-21-09 10:28 PM   #20 
              - Then it shouldn't be called a Public Option, should it?  rollingrock   Nov-21-09 06:48 PM   #9 
  - You have the option to....  Kansas Wyatt   Nov-21-09 07:08 PM   #12 
  - Exactly, and we always had Medicaid for that anyway, so this so  Cleita   Nov-21-09 07:14 PM   #13 
     - They are basically expanding Medicaid a little bit.  Kansas Wyatt   Nov-21-09 07:23 PM   #14 
        - No no no no, not the same thing at all  sandnsea   Nov-21-09 10:30 PM   #21 
  - I think the idea is to save Medicare?  kentuck   Nov-21-09 07:33 PM   #17 
  - It's not public health care. Agreed  kixat2550   Nov-21-09 07:35 PM   #18 
  - It's not public and its not an option.  PHIMG   Nov-21-09 07:45 PM   #19 
  - I've thought the way you do for a long time.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-21-09 10:40 PM   #22 

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