AllentownJake
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Fri Nov-20-09 01:14 AM
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| 9. The President is in some serious trouble |
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Taking on the Health Care legislation before financial reform was a serious miscalculation. The behavior of the White House on catering to conservative democrats concerns over the progressive caucuses was another.
He's about to face an angry revolt in his own party. 95% of the progressive caucus is safe for re-election in 2010, the Blue Dogs, not so much.
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| -White House Rebuke: Angry Dems Shut Down Vote |
democracy1st |
Nov-20-09 12:23 AM |
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Nov-20-09 12:25 AM |
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They will so long as they think they are able to do so...it's time to start pushing them... |
bridgit |
Nov-20-09 12:31 AM |
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They are probably sick of seeing the folks like Lieberman, Stupak and Baucus use it so effectively |
CreekDog |
Nov-20-09 01:19 AM |
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Agreed |
TheBigotBasher |
Nov-20-09 01:46 AM |
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Agreed |
bridgit |
Nov-20-09 08:14 AM |
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Push who into the mud puddles? The mud people? |
Flaneur |
Nov-20-09 01:24 AM |
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And yet another extremely offensive post I would not expect to see here. |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:31 AM |
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I doubt she is describing the CBC that way since she actually agreed with me |
CreekDog |
Nov-20-09 12:21 PM |
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I hope you see that in hindsite that statement is very offensive |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:41 AM |
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mud puddles? wtf x2 n/t |
Snazzy |
Nov-20-09 02:00 AM |
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Just who are you referring to? I expect an answer. |
olegramps |
Nov-20-09 09:01 AM |
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Ah, now we're getting somewhere: that would be the Geithner/Summers... |
bridgit |
Nov-20-09 11:52 AM |
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what the hell kind of thing is that to say... |
grasswire |
Nov-20-09 12:36 AM |
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Isn't that amazing and revolting? There are no lengths too low for some to stoop |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:16 AM |
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Really? So punish them for speaking out? I wish we had some folks speaking up for women and GLBT |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:12 AM |
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Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities. |
Arkana |
Nov-20-09 01:15 AM |
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Yes, you aren't. |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:18 AM |
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Do you really think the President would appreciate this kind of support????? |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:23 AM |
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those who want to shut down debate are more delicate |
fascisthunter |
Nov-20-09 10:10 AM |
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They are quite the cute little cult aren't they |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:18 AM |
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Talking about burning folks alive in the capitol cannot be considered appropriate |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:20 AM |
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If only someone would rid me of this troublesome priest |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:23 AM |
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That phrase is exactly what that sounds like. I am quite a fan of "Becket" |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:27 AM |
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I stayed out of the Conyers thread on Health Care reform |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:37 AM |
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I said Stupack would pass the House. they said I fretted over nothing! |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:51 AM |
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They are facing re-election |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:56 AM |
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Exactly so. And now the WH is trying to buy them off, promising VP |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 02:06 AM |
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I said on election night they were in trouble |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 02:12 AM |
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We agree, but what do we know? I have to laugh remembering how some |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 02:19 AM |
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2010 was decided when the President |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 02:28 AM |
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I was pretty disgusted |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 05:10 AM |
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Disregard this post I was being stupid. nt |
anonymous171 |
Nov-20-09 01:20 AM |
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Frank's bill sucks anyway |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:23 AM |
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I actually agree now |
anonymous171 |
Nov-20-09 01:27 AM |
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No problem |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:29 AM |
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And that's why many are going to have more trouble in 2010 - overwhelmingly |
BR_Parkway |
Nov-20-09 02:39 AM |
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Democracy sucks |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:17 AM |
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wtf |
Snazzy |
Nov-20-09 01:43 AM |
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What the fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck |
anonymous171 |
Nov-20-09 12:28 AM |
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The Caucus has a valid point.... |
WCGreen |
Nov-20-09 12:36 AM |
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I don't really care what their point is. They are siding with the enemy. |
anonymous171 |
Nov-20-09 01:16 AM |
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Who pray tell is the enemy? |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:20 AM |
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Bankers and the financial elite. |
anonymous171 |
Nov-20-09 01:24 AM |
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You are correct |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:25 AM |
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They are siding with their constituents. |
Flaneur |
Nov-20-09 01:26 AM |
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The Democratic party has taken the Black vote for granted for far |
WCGreen |
Nov-20-09 01:31 AM |
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And the contempt for the CBC displayed in this thread confirms your point |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 01:33 AM |
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The GOP's rigid party line strategy is why they still dominate the debate |
anonymous171 |
Nov-20-09 01:33 AM |
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I fully understand the heat of the moment response response... |
WCGreen |
Nov-20-09 01:47 AM |
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What exactly do they want the WH to do? Nothing I can think of can possibly |
napi21 |
Nov-20-09 12:39 AM |
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Talk about cutting off their noses to spite their faces. |
Beregond2 |
Nov-20-09 01:11 AM |
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The President is in some serious trouble |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:14 AM |
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No, he isn't ... |
Cosmocat |
Nov-20-09 08:27 AM |
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How 'bout that?? |
BeFree |
Nov-20-09 08:46 AM |
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And that would be AllentownJake! |
saracat |
Nov-20-09 10:01 AM |
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Wrong |
BeFree |
Nov-20-09 10:04 AM |
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Do you know what FDR did while he bailed out the banks? |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 09:21 AM |
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I'm thinking |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 05:27 AM |
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If health care wasn't taken on now |
murdoch |
Nov-20-09 12:43 PM |
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I think in March of 2009 |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 12:50 PM |
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You have a double negative there, |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 05:38 AM |
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The bill does not do much to address cost |
AllentownJake |
Nov-21-09 06:04 AM |
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Maybe not many points, |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 09:33 AM |
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More Defeatist anti-Obama Bullshit - and stupid |
jpak |
Nov-21-09 07:13 AM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-20-09 01:33 AM |
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The financial reform bill proposed by the White House was good |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-20-09 01:51 AM |
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The White House bill was adequate |
AllentownJake |
Nov-20-09 01:57 AM |
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Instead of a "Works Progress Administration" that was successful, what have we gotten? |
olegramps |
Nov-20-09 09:46 AM |
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They really do need some of those programs. |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 05:43 AM |
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There they go again. |
bvar22 |
Nov-20-09 10:13 AM |
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Wellstone was on the money with that priceless quote |
democracy1st |
Nov-21-09 04:49 AM |
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Except for the fact |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 05:45 AM |
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thats where the rightwing propaganda machine comes in I'm sure Nebraska has very few if any |
democracy1st |
Nov-21-09 06:10 AM |
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It's always been that way. |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-21-09 09:29 AM |
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only thing I can come up with is that dems represent minorities,women,gays and the less fortunate |
democracy1st |
Nov-21-09 12:34 PM |
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pigeonhole : To categorize; especially to limit or be limited to a particular category, role, etc. |
adamuu |
Nov-21-09 07:47 AM |
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Woah! What's that I see? |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-21-09 07:55 AM |
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