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115. Maybe dad being so fucked up contributed to son's inability to control unhealthy impulses?
Either way, for a guy who hates sexual predators, he just ensured that he'll be spending the rest of his days w/some.
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  -Dad accused of forcing son into field, killing him cali  Nov-18-09 05:43 PM   #0 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-18-09 05:45 PM   #1 
  - sounds like mental illness & oddities are clogging the filter in that gene pool  bridgit   Nov-18-09 05:45 PM   #2 
  - With a father like that, no wonder his son was so screwed up.  MadBadger   Nov-18-09 05:46 PM   #3 
  - Where did the kid learn it? Just ask'n...  thunder rising   Nov-18-09 05:46 PM   #4 
  - Sounds about right for the DU punishment fetishists.  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-18-09 05:47 PM   #5 
  - Yep.  spoony   Nov-18-09 05:52 PM   #10 
  - and here you are to endorse. nt  seabeyond   Nov-18-09 06:15 PM   #30 
     - Is this where I get called a child molester apologist?  spoony   Nov-18-09 06:17 PM   #35 
        - no. i am pretty sure you get it is the "fetish" that is bothersome. nt  seabeyond   Nov-18-09 06:18 PM   #36 
           - The fetish is DUers getting off on the idea of vigilante torture and murder.  spoony   Nov-18-09 06:19 PM   #39 
              - Probably wouldn't happen  notesdev   Nov-18-09 06:27 PM   #51 
                 - So you promote this form of vigilantism?  EOTE   Nov-19-09 11:45 AM   #149 
                    - I don't promote it. The government promotes it.  notesdev   Nov-19-09 11:56 AM   #155 
                       - You either promote it or you excuse it.  EOTE   Nov-19-09 12:05 PM   #159 
                          - Examples are one thing  notesdev   Nov-19-09 12:10 PM   #162 
                             - Vigilantism is not an appeal to return to lawfulness.  EOTE   Nov-19-09 12:13 PM   #163 
  - fetish my fuckin ass. not the first time hearing missing with kids a mere fetish. is this the new  seabeyond   Nov-18-09 06:14 PM   #28 
     - Can you read? The poster said nothing even remotely close to that nt  spoony   Nov-18-09 06:18 PM   #37 
     - You have reading comprehension problems  anigbrowl   Nov-18-09 06:20 PM   #40 
     - Have an adult re-type that for you and so I can decipher what the fuck you are on about.  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-18-09 06:20 PM   #42 
     - we just had a thread, fucking children is a fetish. i thought that was what you were saying.  seabeyond   Nov-18-09 06:47 PM   #60 
        - If you can't tell the difference, then you should not participate in this discussion.  anigbrowl   Nov-18-09 06:51 PM   #61 
           - ya, cause punishment fetishist makes sense. nt  seabeyond   Nov-18-09 06:56 PM   #65 
              - Yes, it does, at least to anyone fluent in English.  anigbrowl   Nov-18-09 07:03 PM   #68 
                 - +100. It's bad enough that the replies are usually a few notches below comprehensible.  EOTE   Nov-19-09 11:49 AM   #152 
                    - Thank you! I don't use "ignore"  Coventina   Nov-19-09 01:02 PM   #172 
                       - Your mental health will be better off for it.  EOTE   Nov-19-09 05:36 PM   #188 
                       - Whew! I thought I was the only one that felt this way n/t  RayOfHope   Nov-19-09 06:31 PM   #190 
     - Please read and comprehend before responding. NT.  EOTE   Nov-19-09 11:47 AM   #150 
  - This story is nothing but sad. It goes to show that children are in more danger from their parents  elocs   Nov-18-09 05:48 PM   #6 
  - heartbreaking. And dad needs to spend life in prison for it.  cali   Nov-18-09 05:51 PM   #9 
  - Everybody here is saying the same thing. I feel terrible.  Fire1   Nov-18-09 05:59 PM   #17 
     - Ummm...NO.  Texasgal   Nov-18-09 07:32 PM   #77 
     - Um, Fuck YEAH! Just like some people don't need pets  Fire1   Nov-19-09 10:44 AM   #142 
        - What does that mean? How many cali's are on this site??  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 01:31 PM   #180 
     - And are you willing to force steralization on men too?  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 01:33 PM   #181 
  - I think that claim would require studing child deaths around the world.  ZombieHorde   Nov-18-09 05:55 PM   #14 
  - No it does not.  rd_kent   Nov-18-09 06:54 PM   #63 
  - I may be a fool, but I'm not ignorant. You, however, are now on ignore.  elocs   Nov-19-09 03:13 AM   #112 
     - Thats great, ignore those that may be able to teach you something...  rd_kent   Nov-19-09 01:14 PM   #175 
  - i think you're right, though it goes deeper than acute acts of violence like this  renegade000   Nov-18-09 09:01 PM   #92 
  - holy shit....  spanone   Nov-18-09 05:49 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-09 05:51 PM   #8 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-18-09 05:54 PM   #12 
  - Everyone deserves a fair hearing, ESPECIALLY at 15. This boy was summarily executed  TwilightGardener   Nov-18-09 05:55 PM   #15 
  - I'm not arguing legality...it's obviously illegal.  MercutioATC   Nov-18-09 06:02 PM   #19 
  - No. There's no positive to a fifteen year old being shot in the head  TwilightGardener   Nov-18-09 06:07 PM   #22 
  - The kid raped a toddler.  MercutioATC   Nov-18-09 06:11 PM   #25 
  - Usually we wait until a court and a jury decide that, thanks.  TwilightGardener   Nov-18-09 06:12 PM   #26 
  - As I said, it's illegal.  MercutioATC   Nov-18-09 06:16 PM   #32 
     - Do you know nothing of jurisprudence  PVnRT   Nov-19-09 09:36 AM   #133 
        - The 15-year-old admitted to "laying on top of" the toddler...  MercutioATC   Nov-19-09 12:04 PM   #158 
  - I can't help noticing your lack of evidence for this statement.  anigbrowl   Nov-18-09 06:16 PM   #33 
  - Say what? You have no fucking way of knowing that.  cali   Nov-18-09 06:26 PM   #50 
  - I'm not condoning the father's actions.  MercutioATC   Nov-18-09 06:29 PM   #54 
     - The negative? How the fuck do you know the kid deserved it?  TheWraith   Nov-18-09 06:34 PM   #57 
     - I don't know that he "deserved it"...especially by your standards.  MercutioATC   Nov-18-09 06:46 PM   #59 
        - I'm sorry, I don't consider murdering a child to be a positive thing.  TheWraith   Nov-18-09 06:52 PM   #62 
        - As I have stated numerous times, I don't condone the father's actions.  MercutioATC   Nov-18-09 06:57 PM   #66 
           - Yea, but how do you feel about spanking?  Iggo   Nov-18-09 07:49 PM   #79 
           - You're right  Papagoose   Nov-18-09 08:05 PM   #80 
           - You're an idiot  RetroLounge   Nov-19-09 07:58 AM   #118 
           - I think you are projecting  niceypoo   Nov-19-09 09:21 AM   #128 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-19-09 09:33 AM   #132 
           - That's the most colorful response yet!  MercutioATC   Nov-19-09 10:48 AM   #143 
              - Almost as crass as you.  Forkboy   Nov-19-09 01:29 PM   #178 
           - That is disgusting.  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 12:08 PM   #160 
           - Those two statements directly contradict each other.  Occulus   Nov-19-09 12:26 PM   #165 
        - We only have the mother's word for that  varelse   Nov-19-09 06:36 PM   #191 
        - There is a flaw in your argument  Mixopterus   Nov-19-09 06:57 PM   #192 
           - Excellent reply.  TwilightGardener   Nov-20-09 09:36 AM   #209 
     - In other words, you do condone the father's actions. (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-19-09 04:07 PM   #187 
  - Aren't a lot of child rapists victims of sexual abuse themselves  havocmom   Nov-18-09 08:50 PM   #88 
  - The kid did not. Read the article. It said no such thing. n/t  tonysam   Nov-19-09 10:41 AM   #141 
  - You're one sick puppy.  EOTE   Nov-19-09 11:55 AM   #153 
  - What did he do to the toddler?  lolly   Nov-20-09 10:48 AM   #213 
  - You are correct.  JNelson6563   Nov-19-09 09:18 AM   #126 
  - How the fuck do you know the boy DID anything worth dying for?  TheWraith   Nov-18-09 06:15 PM   #31 
  - Dad sounds like a real sicko, executing him while the mom and his son beg for mercy. And  Raschel   Nov-18-09 09:50 PM   #93 
  - Bullshit.  RetroLounge   Nov-19-09 07:55 AM   #116 
  - Why is this goddamned website FILTHY with "compassionate conservative" types?  Romulox   Nov-19-09 09:19 AM   #127 
  - Makes me wonder if there's something the dad didn't want the kid to say at trial.  BlooInBloo   Nov-18-09 05:54 PM   #11 
  - Most parents don't want it shouted from the roof tops that they raised a son who molests toddlers  stray cat   Nov-18-09 06:20 PM   #41 
     - If the intent was to not have the neighbors talking about a trial, it missed, didn't it?  havocmom   Nov-18-09 08:54 PM   #89 
     - Or that he molested his son.  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 07:13 PM   #194 
  - What a nightmare.  PassingFair   Nov-18-09 05:54 PM   #13 
  - Dreadful situation all a around - no positives at all  bikingaz   Nov-19-09 09:42 PM   #203 
  - I wonder if the 3 year old was related to him.  jobycom   Nov-18-09 05:56 PM   #16 
  - The 3 year old child is the father's daughter, and the half-sister  ecstatic   Nov-18-09 08:57 PM   #91 
     - Good God. nt  jobycom   Nov-18-09 10:18 PM   #97 
     - Well, I can understand the fathers reaction a LITTLE more.  Xithras   Nov-19-09 02:41 AM   #111 
        - There was no rape. Read the OP.  Ikonoklast   Nov-19-09 06:19 AM   #114 
        - Any sexual contact with a person incapable of consent is rape.  Xithras   Nov-19-09 01:04 PM   #173 
        - not other child  katkat   Nov-20-09 06:59 AM   #207 
  - I hope the 3 year old child will be okay.  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Nov-18-09 05:59 PM   #18 
  - The boy is obviously disturbed. I think the little girl was his  Fire1   Nov-18-09 06:09 PM   #24 
     - sounds like the punishment given to the son....  stray cat   Nov-18-09 06:21 PM   #43 
        - What??? n/t  Fire1   Nov-18-09 06:32 PM   #55 
        - huh????  Fire1   Nov-18-09 06:34 PM   #56 
  - So you find out you have produced a 15 year old son who is raping toddlers. What do you do?  Tim01   Nov-18-09 06:06 PM   #20 
  - Who said anything about raping toddlers?  TheWraith   Nov-18-09 06:21 PM   #44 
  - Is that why adults sexually molest children - hormones?  stray cat   Nov-18-09 06:23 PM   # 
     - Do you know exactly what happened?  TheWraith   Nov-18-09 06:28 PM   #52 
        - You know, it was a 3 year old.  Tim01   Nov-18-09 06:55 PM   #64 
           - Talk about circular logic  anigbrowl   Nov-18-09 07:25 PM   #76 
  - He IS still a child. Who cares whether you believe therapy  Fire1   Nov-18-09 06:24 PM   #48 
  - To be fair, rape is not mentioned, it was inappropriate touching. We do not know  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Nov-18-09 06:25 PM   #49 
  - Your post is sick and disgusting. I hope like hell YOU don't ;have children  cali   Nov-18-09 06:29 PM   #53 
  - Your childish emotional reaction is touching.  Tim01   Nov-18-09 07:06 PM   #70 
     - I've lived plenty long enough to know that the sadistic murder of a child  cali   Nov-18-09 07:11 PM   #73 
     - "Childish emotional reaction"  PVnRT   Nov-19-09 09:41 AM   #135 
  - WTF?  Cali_Democrat   Nov-18-09 07:09 PM   #72 
  - Murdering your child is NEVER understandable or OK  LeftishBrit   Nov-19-09 03:28 AM   #113 
  - You don't compare killing a child to killing dogs.  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 07:16 PM   #195 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-18-09 06:06 PM   #21 
  - If the son did indeed molest a 3-year-old...  Irreverend IX   Nov-18-09 06:08 PM   #23 
  - The article failed to mention that the 3 year old is his daughter nt  ecstatic   Nov-18-09 08:34 PM   #86 
  - I am sure the mother who watched her child beg for his life from  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 07:23 PM   #196 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Nov-18-09 06:12 PM   #27 
  - So he shot his son over allegations  pipi_k   Nov-18-09 06:14 PM   #29 
  - Supposedly the kid confessed to his mom based on the article  stray cat   Nov-18-09 06:22 PM   #45 
  - He confessed to "inappropriate contact."  TheWraith   Nov-18-09 06:23 PM   #46 
     - Thank you!  pipi_k   Nov-19-09 08:55 AM   #122 
  - By the time my brother was 15  jobycom   Nov-18-09 11:10 PM   #106 
     - Wow, that's a powerful story.  eqfan592   Nov-18-09 11:37 PM   #107 
     - I understand how painful it is...  pipi_k   Nov-19-09 09:07 AM   #125 
     - My brother wouldn't have been helped by counseling, that's my point.  jobycom   Nov-19-09 11:48 AM   # 
     - The boy in the OP was different;  The Doctor.   Nov-19-09 09:29 AM   #131 
        - You don't know that.  jobycom   Nov-19-09 12:02 PM   #157 
           - Isn't that the point? Nobody will EVER know. The boy was killed.  FedUpWithIt All   Nov-19-09 12:09 PM   #161 
              - The point was that people were going off on the original story without knowing.  jobycom   Nov-19-09 12:29 PM   #166 
  - this is a horrible, horrible story. for all around. breaks my heart. nt  seabeyond   Nov-18-09 06:17 PM   #34 
  - So tragic all the way around  stray cat   Nov-18-09 06:18 PM   #38 
  - the defense attorney needs to be disbarred asap nt  msongs   Nov-18-09 06:24 PM   #47 
  - If the kid had instead told his father that he'd gotten drunk then drove a car...  Silent3   Nov-18-09 06:43 PM   #58 
  - "Father kills teenager who raped his three year old daughter."  jobycom   Nov-19-09 12:17 AM   #109 
  - More from the Detroit News  tonysam   Nov-18-09 07:01 PM   #67 
  - Such vigilante action is abhorrent, irrespective of the alleged misdeed.  TexasObserver   Nov-18-09 07:06 PM   #69 
  - It sounds like there is a lot more to the story, especially, as noted in my link above,  tonysam   Nov-18-09 07:08 PM   #71 
  - There are other ways to deal with this.  Jkid   Nov-18-09 07:15 PM   #74 
  - Wow, what an asshole  slackmaster   Nov-18-09 07:21 PM   #75 
  - This story is just horrific  latebloomer   Nov-18-09 07:47 PM   #78 
  - Yeah, really sick  Brooklyns_Finest   Nov-18-09 08:14 PM   #81 
  - tragedy. horrible  Liberal_in_LA   Nov-18-09 08:16 PM   #82 
  - Sometimes I hope the Mayans were right and 2012 is the end.  deutsey   Nov-18-09 08:18 PM   #83 
  - I'm curious about what some of you would do if you had access to  ecstatic   Nov-18-09 08:22 PM   #84 
  - If it were my son?  latebloomer   Nov-18-09 08:33 PM   #85 
  - The boy did try to seek help... so I think there was a good chance  ecstatic   Nov-18-09 08:37 PM   #87 
  - As I posted somewhere upthread...  pipi_k   Nov-19-09 09:23 AM   #129 
  - OMG  lonestarnot   Nov-18-09 08:54 PM   #90 
  - What the father did was wrong, but...  Odin2005   Nov-18-09 09:53 PM   #94 
  - The teen laid on top of the 3 yr old. n/t  FedUpWithIt All   Nov-18-09 10:26 PM   #99 
  - Am I taking crazy pills or something?  Libertas1776   Nov-18-09 10:00 PM   #95 
  - I'll admit that I have very personal reasons that this gives me irrational blood-lust.  Odin2005   Nov-18-09 11:09 PM   #104 
  - your comment is eminently sane. some of the comments on this thread, however,  cali   Nov-19-09 07:57 AM   #117 
  - I'm wondering if the father had sexually abused the son he shot.  kwassa   Nov-18-09 10:08 PM   #96 
  - The boy admitted to "lying" on the 3 yr old. He told his mother he knew it was wrong.  FedUpWithIt All   Nov-18-09 10:24 PM   #98 
  - "Yolanda Cherry, said a relative took the girl to a doctor to be examined on Sunday, and that there  mzmolly   Nov-18-09 10:59 PM   #102 
  - I agree. Horrifically sad.  FedUpWithIt All   Nov-18-09 11:06 PM   #103 
  - Kick for additional, accurate information...nt  SidDithers   Nov-19-09 09:00 AM   #124 
  - The poor mother. She was living with 2 sickos.  applegrove   Nov-18-09 10:36 PM   #100 
  - Not going to mourn a pedo's death but the father deserves to be in jail too.  proteus_lives   Nov-18-09 10:46 PM   #101 
  - I mourn his death. I mourn it deeply. The poor kid was forced to strip  cali   Nov-19-09 09:38 AM   #134 
  - Sometimes I wish I could do the same to the pedo that ripped up my sister's family.  proteus_lives   Nov-19-09 12:43 PM   #168 
  - A 15-year-old  TicketyBoo   Nov-19-09 10:15 AM   #137 
  - If he molested a child, then yes he is.  proteus_lives   Nov-19-09 12:37 PM   #167 
     - He is a child, himself  TicketyBoo   Nov-20-09 02:20 AM   #204 
        - Sick.  proteus_lives   Nov-21-09 03:51 AM   #214 
           - Except  TicketyBoo   Nov-21-09 04:48 AM   #215 
  - He was 15. He needed help.  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 10:35 AM   #140 
  - Well, no, the father should have shot himself next.  Jester Messiah   Nov-19-09 11:48 AM   #151 
  - Boy I was having a shitty day until I read this...  budkin   Nov-18-09 11:09 PM   #105 
  - Both acts are beyond abhorent  ZenKitty   Nov-19-09 12:01 AM   #108 
  - Such a sad story.  tmyers09   Nov-19-09 12:27 AM   #110 
  - Maybe dad being so fucked up contributed to son's inability to control unhealthy impulses?  Echo In Light   Nov-19-09 06:30 AM   #115 
  - So where are all the DU guys cheering this murderer?  TransitJohn   Nov-19-09 08:06 AM   #119 
  - Did you NOT read the posts in this thread? The wackos who think  TwilightGardener   Nov-19-09 08:37 AM   #120 
  - Why must DUers turn on each other every time a tragic story like this is posted?  rvablue   Nov-19-09 08:52 AM   #121 
  - There are people upthread excusing summary child executions...  Romulox   Nov-19-09 09:28 AM   #130 
     - And it's the one of the handful of douche-bag freepers we have on this board ..  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-19-09 10:06 AM   #136 
  - I haven't read this whole thread  EnlightenedOne   Nov-19-09 08:57 AM   #123 
  - It was sexual  TicketyBoo   Nov-19-09 10:19 AM   #138 
     - Your assuming that what he felt was "wrong" was actually wrong.  Thickasabrick   Nov-19-09 09:40 PM   #201 
        - Not really.  TicketyBoo   Nov-20-09 02:24 AM   #205 
  - Well, this is so downthread that no one will ever read it, but here goes:  Coventina   Nov-19-09 10:23 AM   #139 
  - I read it.  MercutioATC   Nov-19-09 10:53 AM   #144 
  - Still cheerleading murder I see.  RetroLounge   Nov-19-09 11:01 AM   #145 
  - Not just murder but sadistic child murder is what he's cheering. sick  cali   Nov-19-09 11:07 AM   #147 
  - Nothing worked out. A child was heinously and sadistically murdered  cali   Nov-19-09 11:05 AM   #146 
  - I guess it depends on one's perspective.  MercutioATC   Nov-19-09 11:26 AM   #148 
     - In your limited perspective i do not expect that you would be able to fathom the EXTREME consequence...  FedUpWithIt All   Nov-19-09 11:56 AM   #154 
     - My experiences aren't that limited.  MercutioATC   Nov-19-09 12:02 PM   #156 
        - I said your perspective, which IS limited. Not your experience.  FedUpWithIt All   Nov-19-09 12:26 PM   #164 
     - What about the effects of knowing her dad murdered her brother?  Shell Beau   Nov-19-09 01:36 PM   #183 
     - Shame on you. Seriously, shame on you  uppityperson   Nov-19-09 04:00 PM   #186 
  - You are one sick puppy.  Occulus   Nov-19-09 12:49 PM   #169 
  - Thanks for reading, but you completely missed my point.  Coventina   Nov-19-09 12:53 PM   #170 
  - I don't know what you do to make you so stupid, but it's working.  Forkboy   Nov-19-09 01:33 PM   #182 
  - !  dionysus   Nov-20-09 10:34 AM   #212 
  - You don't know he was a fucking child molester!! nt  Thickasabrick   Nov-19-09 09:41 PM   #202 
  - That's a pretty unfair interpretation of law in America  jobycom   Nov-19-09 12:53 PM   #171 
     - You make some excellent points. It is very true that at this point  Coventina   Nov-19-09 01:10 PM   #174 
        - On premeditation  jobycom   Nov-19-09 01:23 PM   #177 
           - We can certainly agree that it is a horrible story.  Coventina   Nov-19-09 01:31 PM   #179 
              - i don't think I could, either. But remember one of his children was the victim of the other.  jobycom   Nov-19-09 02:20 PM   #184 
                 - So you believe your brother was a bad seed? n/t  U4ikLefty   Nov-20-09 02:34 AM   #206 
  - The guys EGO was involved. He was SR. JR. was a child rapist.  Gman2   Nov-19-09 01:18 PM   #176 
  - The three year old was examined. She had not been raped.  cali   Nov-19-09 02:57 PM   #185 
  - What a sad, sad story!  Bryn   Nov-19-09 06:23 PM   #189 
  - I'm shocked at what people will justify  Mixopterus   Nov-19-09 07:10 PM   #193 
  - It's just how Americans are.  BlooInBloo   Nov-19-09 07:27 PM   #197 
  - In all the years that I've posted on DU, no thread has ever shocked me and  cali   Nov-19-09 07:55 PM   #198 
     - Was reading about this THAT other site  Mixopterus   Nov-19-09 08:15 PM   #199 
     - Sadly, I've been shocked, saddened & horrified here more times  Coventina   Nov-20-09 09:52 AM   #211 
  - Honor killing, American style.  JVS   Nov-19-09 08:52 PM   #200 
  - Nailed it.  Iggo   Nov-20-09 09:29 AM   #208 
  - that's just messed up on all levels.  dionysus   Nov-20-09 09:38 AM   #210 
 

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