Joshua The Marshall
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Thu Nov-19-09 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #75 |
| 76. You should look more closely. |
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Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 12:02 PM by Joshua The Marshall
And read a bit more carefully;
I was not dealing with situations where Prostitution was illegal, but chiefly where prostitution was legal."
Chiefly means primarily. This means I was taking other, illegal prostitution situations as contrast.
But I wasn't referring to the prostitution in Israel or Japan at all. My quote there was showing that Israel and Japan are two of the areas which see the most Human Trafficking, right alongside the United States and the Netherlands.
It is curious that the Netherlands sees a comparable amount of Human Trafficking, chiefly for the sex trade, when they have legal prostitution.
This point you're making is absurd.
Lies? Such as?
You seem to have an infatuation with saying things without backing them up. Analogy and naked declarations of fact do not a good argument make.
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| -Cancer scientist reveals secret life as a prostitute |
SallyMander |
Nov-16-09 12:23 PM |
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At a point she's not doing it because she has to and moreso because she wants to. |
YOY |
Nov-16-09 12:27 PM |
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no, she ISN'T doing it, hasn't been doing it for a long time, at this point her blog is fiction |
pitohui |
Nov-16-09 08:46 PM |
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Sex work is dirty and dangerous and pays really well |
Warpy |
Nov-16-09 12:33 PM |
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Eh |
Mixopterus |
Nov-16-09 07:56 PM |
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countries that have legalized, see problems that have been caused by it. increased sex slaves |
seabeyond |
Nov-16-09 08:56 PM |
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There's not one country that has fully legalized prostitution |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-09 06:30 PM |
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Unethical? |
edwardian |
Nov-16-09 10:08 PM |
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It is unethical |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 09:45 AM |
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It's entirely ethical behavior, IMO |
Warpy |
Nov-16-09 11:46 PM |
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That depends |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 09:44 AM |
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What if you don't believe in deontology? |
EOTE |
Nov-17-09 10:06 AM |
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You apparently never read Kant's later works or what came of it |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 10:24 AM |
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Funny, your need to make up things to further your argument. |
EOTE |
Nov-17-09 10:43 AM |
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No, you are reframing the argument |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 11:10 AM |
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People can't always work the job they want. |
EOTE |
Nov-17-09 11:38 AM |
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That is well and good |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 11:43 AM |
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Once again the facts are not on your side. |
EOTE |
Nov-17-09 04:32 PM |
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Uhh |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 05:07 PM |
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In addition |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 05:42 PM |
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You make some ridiculously stupid leaps of logic there. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-09 09:50 AM |
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You are persistent, I'll give you that |
Mixopterus |
Nov-18-09 01:53 PM |
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Repeating your lies over and over again don't make them truths. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-09 02:22 PM |
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Ok, you can't substantiate |
Mixopterus |
Nov-18-09 07:01 PM |
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You are either extremely dense or are being rather obtuse. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 10:32 AM |
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Once again |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 12:48 PM |
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You are completely incapable of either reading or comprehending. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 01:08 PM |
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And if you actually read the argument |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 01:13 PM |
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The Randomness of Consequence |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 01:32 PM |
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And I've already explained how horribly unethical the prohibition of prostitution is. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-09 02:36 PM |
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A general rebuttal. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-18-09 10:47 PM |
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There's way too much BS in here for me to respond directly to all of it. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 10:41 AM |
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Not quite. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 11:07 AM |
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Once again you're wrong. Prostitution is NOT legal in Thailand, it's not legal in Japan either. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 11:33 AM |
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When did I say they were? |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 11:44 AM |
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You said that your points addressed were from where prostitution was already legal. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 11:57 AM |
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You should look more closely. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 12:00 PM |
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You are being dishonest |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 12:54 PM |
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You haven't provided evidence of anything. Just your feelings based upon your mysticism. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 01:00 PM |
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Hm |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 01:06 PM |
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You simply can't admit that you're wrong. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 01:24 PM |
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yeah, no |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 01:27 PM |
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I'll gladly accept your concession. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 01:30 PM |
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This is also cute! |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 01:36 PM |
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"Kant also believed it would be a bad thing to lie to a murderer asking for the location |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 02:43 PM |
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The issue is simple, then. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 02:54 PM |
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It's not my fault you and your friend are incapable of reading. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 03:00 PM |
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Likewise, it's not my fault you are incapable of reading what he was saying. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 03:03 PM |
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Aha, what? |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 01:39 PM |
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We were discussing Kant as a person. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 02:27 PM |
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You should look at his argument again. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 02:41 PM |
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Wrong again |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 04:12 PM |
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You seem to have an overinflated view of your argument. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 01:16 PM |
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then you fight for legalization. he fights for criminalization. democracy. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-17-09 10:25 AM |
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A sex worker is providing a service for which a demand exists |
Warpy |
Nov-17-09 11:01 AM |
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Couldn't have said it better. |
EOTE |
Nov-17-09 04:48 PM |
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Ok, allow me to explain. |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 05:12 PM |
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Prostitution isn't legal in Thailand |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-09 06:38 PM |
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Yeah |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 06:44 PM |
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Conversely, however... |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-09 10:46 PM |
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Yeah, there's no way we could do a better job than Mexico in that regard. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-09 09:54 AM |
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And the Netherlands also has issues |
Mixopterus |
Nov-18-09 01:55 PM |
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And any way it's implemented, it would be far better than what we have now. NT |
EOTE |
Nov-18-09 02:03 PM |
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Yeah? |
Mixopterus |
Nov-18-09 09:36 PM |
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Yes. Because you cite an article with a person who doesn't like it, doesn't make it any less so. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 09:39 AM |
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This isn't just a case of 'I didn't like this job'. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 11:27 AM |
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Your bias is showing. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 11:41 AM |
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Only in the same sense you have. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 11:51 AM |
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I'll use a couple of your quotes and then I'm done with you. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 12:03 PM |
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Ah, very cute. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 12:12 PM |
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Refusing to talk to a brick wall is not a concession, it's common sense. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 12:21 PM |
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A response; |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 12:32 PM |
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What do you think of the citations for claim #3 on this page? |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 01:48 PM |
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Unless I'm mistaken, post three is a deleted post. There are no citations. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 01:51 PM |
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Sorry, I meant at the link... this is a small excerpt... there is much more. |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 01:51 PM |
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Oh! I'm sorry! |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 01:54 PM |
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Heh, no worries. And welcome to DU! |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 01:57 PM |
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legalization doesn't work, increases problems, regardless how some continue to demand |
seabeyond |
Nov-19-09 02:05 PM |
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Josh put it very well upthread... |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 02:12 PM |
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I think it's bullshit. I'll also note that there's no cite for it. NT. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 02:23 PM |
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What do you mean 'no cite for it'? |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 02:26 PM |
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The information provided does nothing to substantiate the claims. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 02:35 PM |
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You read "Adult prostitution zone" as illegal. I didn't. |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 02:49 PM |
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Chicago, Honolulu, Las Vegas, New Orleans, New York, San Francisco |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 02:56 PM |
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Uh. |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 02:58 PM |
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That is obviously not the case... |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 03:01 PM |
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Yes I do. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-09 03:23 PM |
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Yet, from the same document: |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 03:27 PM |
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What? |
Joshua The Marshall |
Nov-19-09 02:32 PM |
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Right |
Mixopterus |
Nov-19-09 04:16 PM |
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Most moral philosophy is just the rationalization of inherently irrational gut feelings. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-17-09 05:11 PM |
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Perhaps |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 05:15 PM |
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This is not about prostitution being "icky". Please see below. |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 01:49 PM |
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And may I add; there's the questions nobody seems to ask; |
ismnotwasm |
Nov-19-09 04:36 PM |
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Excellent questions, yes... this handbook asks those questions and more. |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 04:40 PM |
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Legalizing it might have some unforseen consequences. Corporate Pimp companies, for instance |
anonymous171 |
Nov-16-09 07:57 PM |
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it was in london, as far as i know, it was legal |
pitohui |
Nov-16-09 08:47 PM |
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discussing pros and cons on legalization. subthread. not about op. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-16-09 08:57 PM |
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So what? That might just as easily be an improvement on existing conditions |
anigbrowl |
Nov-17-09 11:19 AM |
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Hypothetically |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 11:21 AM |
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You might be interested in the information at this link: |
redqueen |
Nov-19-09 02:35 PM |
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How about mates just not wander. |
Kalyke |
Nov-17-09 11:45 AM |
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That would be nice |
Mixopterus |
Nov-17-09 11:59 AM |
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If you're not in a relationship, you don't need to wander. Problem solved. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-09 03:11 PM |
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Deleted. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-16-09 12:36 PM |
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seems like she was too. |
ashling |
Nov-16-09 12:47 PM |
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fantastic |
AngryAmish |
Nov-16-09 07:50 PM |
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arguably, grad school isn't that much different anyway.... |
mike_c |
Nov-16-09 01:24 PM |
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... |
Kali |
Nov-16-09 07:48 PM |
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... |
SallyMander |
Nov-16-09 08:31 PM |
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DUzy nomination |
varelse |
Nov-16-09 08:38 PM |
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Did the Cancer Scientist discovers that prostitution cures cancer? |
PerfectSage |
Nov-16-09 08:37 PM |
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For most scientists, conducting research, even working on a Ph.D. program |
question everything |
Nov-16-09 08:41 PM |
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according to the article, she only did it between 2003 and late 2004 |
Fleshdancer |
Nov-16-09 08:46 PM |
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yeah she told her BF she was only holding hands and apparently he believed it |
pitohui |
Nov-16-09 08:49 PM |
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Gotta disagree with you |
SallyMander |
Nov-16-09 08:48 PM |
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it's "belle du jour" (hope i spelled that right) |
pitohui |
Nov-16-09 08:45 PM |
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Prostitute reveals secret life of grad student |
JonQ |
Nov-17-09 10:28 AM |
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Bwaahahahahahaa |
SallyMander |
Nov-17-09 11:29 AM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-17-09 11:10 AM |
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Speaking of prostitutes.... look who popped in |
MattBaggins |
Nov-17-09 12:07 PM |
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Must make for interesting prostate exams... |
cliffordu |
Nov-17-09 12:01 PM |
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Well aren't we all prostitutes, one way or another? |
alarimer |
Nov-17-09 06:35 PM |
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Well isn't that just too precious for words. |
ismnotwasm |
Nov-19-09 12:14 PM |
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Good for Ms. Magnanti. |
Vidar |
Nov-19-09 01:40 PM |
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Showtime cable channel has a series based on her called "Secret Diary of a Call Girl". |
4lbs |
Nov-19-09 01:42 PM |
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