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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 06:52 PM
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4. Were you previously aware of this?
It was news to me, and sounds really hopeful.

Hurrah for Mondragon!
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  -Workers getting angrier at corporations.... some looking at a new direction--Mondragon Corp. bobbolink  Nov-15-09 06:41 PM   #0 
  - K&R, great story thank you for posting it. n/t  Greyhound   Nov-15-09 06:45 PM   #1 
  - Were you previously aware of this?  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 06:52 PM   #4 
  - No, but it is good to read stories showing that people can win.  Greyhound   Nov-15-09 08:05 PM   #30 
  - Good, so it wasn't just me, then. I hate feeling like I'm waaay behind the 8 ball!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 09:16 PM   #45 
  - I've known about the Mondragon Cooperatives for a long time.  StarfarerBill   Nov-15-09 10:55 PM   #54 
  - Thanks for the heads up about the film....noted!  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:26 PM   #113 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-15-09 11:08 PM   #57 
  - Agreed  Sherman A1   Nov-16-09 02:51 PM   #104 
  - SOCIALIST!  SoCalNative   Nov-15-09 06:48 PM   #2 
  - Actually, that is what I was getting at. Many of the "teabaggers" are very angry at the same  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 06:53 PM   #6 
  - The problem is they've been totally polluted by propaganda and decades of Cold War paranoia  Selatius   Nov-15-09 07:17 PM   #16 
  - We have to begin by realizing that some CAN'T be reached.  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:24 PM   #19 
  - Try talking about this very issue. I've found a lot of agreement with cons  AllyCat   Nov-16-09 12:53 AM   #64 
  - Good for you! That is how we truly create "CHANGE".  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:30 PM   #114 
  - Introduce them to LSD.  Xicano   Nov-16-09 12:55 AM   #65 
  - Well, some of the same things.  JoeyT   Nov-16-09 01:07 AM   #66 
  - I guess you won't be happy until I agree with all the negatives you want to put out.  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:25 PM   #112 
  - You are absolutely correct in your conclusion  Sherman A1   Nov-16-09 03:00 PM   #106 
     - Thank you for discussing it! If we can learn to listen, and to actually talk WITH others about the  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:32 PM   #115 
        - I am not as optimistic about a turnaround by Nov '10, yet  Sherman A1   Nov-17-09 02:47 AM   #121 
  - No, they are TROTSKYITES!  QC   Nov-15-09 08:52 PM   #40 
     - Actually they're Distributists  nxylas   Nov-16-09 07:07 AM   #83 
  - We need to have new ways in place before the angry mobs start  Desertrose   Nov-15-09 06:49 PM   #3 
  - Yep. Who do ya suppose the "anti-terror" legislation is actually geared for?  Echo In Light   Nov-16-09 01:59 PM   #103 
  - THANK you! We have a year now to reach some of these angry people in a way  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:34 PM   #116 
  - There are more and more of these coops rising  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-15-09 06:52 PM   #5 
  - Can you speak about any coops you have heard about?  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:04 PM   #8 
     - Moore spoke of the bakery in Capitalism  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-15-09 07:12 PM   #12 
     - Thanks... haven't seen the movie.  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:18 PM   #18 
     - Yeah it would be good  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-15-09 07:29 PM   #22 
     - I'm so pissed at having to be back here in red state hell...  Greyhound   Nov-15-09 08:09 PM   #32 
     - YUp. I wanted to go Opening Day, to boost the ticket sales, but said tickets were $12!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 08:11 PM   #34 
     - Maybe he will take a cue from Bill Maher and just release it on the web  Greyhound   Nov-15-09 08:30 PM   #38 
        - If I remember correctly, he did that with others of his movies.  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 09:25 PM   #49 
     - trust me I realize that  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-15-09 08:13 PM   #36 
     - I feel for ya!  Manifestor_of_Light   Nov-16-09 01:27 AM   #68 
     - OK, you win.  Greyhound   Nov-16-09 02:12 AM   #73 
     - It was out  NikolaC   Nov-16-09 06:32 AM   #80 
     - I forgot about the bakery in "Capitalism: A Love Story"  StarfarerBill   Nov-15-09 10:58 PM   #56 
     - There is a Food Giant outlet where I live that is "employee-owned"  Selatius   Nov-15-09 07:46 PM   #25 
        - Thanks for that info, and explaining the difference. Kinda like the difference between  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:54 PM   #26 
  - Super OP  malaise   Nov-15-09 06:54 PM   #7 
  - This is great! Hopeful.  lildreamer316   Nov-15-09 07:08 PM   #9 
  - Education is hopeful!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:11 PM   #11 
  - Yes, I have long thought that co-ops are the way to a humane future.  Jackpine Radical   Nov-15-09 07:09 PM   #10 
  - I wouldn't be surprised by the Finns at all!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:13 PM   #13 
  - It was the Finns that told me about Dr. Schusslers Twelve Tissue Remedies (cell salts)  earcandle   Nov-16-09 12:10 PM   #97 
  - We still have lots of co-ops here in the Upper Midwest.  Odin2005   Nov-15-09 07:34 PM   #23 
  - That is great to know. Do you know.. how many people are involved?  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 07:39 PM   #24 
     - It's been in existance as far back as I can remeber. (early 90s)  Odin2005   Nov-15-09 07:57 PM   #28 
     - I didn't mean to suggest that the co-op movement is dead by any means.  Jackpine Radical   Nov-16-09 12:10 PM   #98 
  - Wisconsin and Minnesota ceratinly have a fine tradition of  truedelphi   Nov-15-09 08:26 PM   #37 
     - You can add Kansas as yet another state with a fine tradition of co ops.  phasma ex machina   Nov-16-09 12:32 AM   #62 
     - DH & I used to live in a small, MN town - pop. 1200.  emmadoggy   Nov-16-09 07:02 PM   #108 
  - Great op!  Yuugal   Nov-15-09 07:13 PM   #14 
  - I think our future now depends on building those bridges.  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 09:38 PM   #50 
  - K&R nt  anonymous171   Nov-15-09 07:15 PM   #15 
  - ...been advocating co-ops  handmade34   Nov-15-09 07:17 PM   #17 
  - YAY CO-OPS! Mondragon is a brilliant example of how a co-op-based economy can work.  Odin2005   Nov-15-09 07:26 PM   #20 
  - K&R  Skittles   Nov-15-09 07:27 PM   #21 
  - toward a more sustanable and healthy world,  G_j   Nov-15-09 07:56 PM   #27 
  - They are even involved with education... have established a university.  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 08:01 PM   #29 
     - Kick  G_j   Nov-15-09 09:44 PM   #51 
        - Thanks!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 10:00 PM   #52 
           - I'll give it a kick, bobbolink  loudsue   Nov-16-09 01:16 AM   #67 
  - k & r n/t  laughingliberal   Nov-15-09 08:06 PM   #31 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Nov-15-09 08:09 PM   #33 
  - Thanks for the K&R, Bot!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 08:12 PM   #35 
  - Excellent article. K&R.  closeupready   Nov-15-09 08:50 PM   #39 
  - Oh, that's shooting too low.... it would be ....... TERRA!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 08:53 PM   #41 
     - Just being my usual negative self, lol.  closeupready   Nov-15-09 08:59 PM   #42 
  - Jerry Brown was talking up the Mondragon movement...  Davis_X_Machina   Nov-15-09 09:05 PM   #43 
  - more on Father A....and thanks for this!  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 09:08 PM   #44 
  - Brilliant! We need to learn more about this & spread the word!  loudsue   Nov-15-09 09:17 PM   #46 
  - I agree completely. How to get started?  bobbolink   Nov-15-09 09:23 PM   #48 
  - It's certainly a preferable alternative to our current cutthroat capitalism.  StarfarerBill   Nov-15-09 11:14 PM   #58 
     - That's a great place to start. Let's go to Chicago & talk to him. We need an appointment.  loudsue   Nov-15-09 11:51 PM   #60 
        - Prof. Schweickart's Loyola homepage hasn't been updated in over three years...  StarfarerBill   Nov-16-09 09:28 PM   #110 
        - Did you see post #61?  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:41 PM   #117 
  - Great post.... the anger hasn't even started yet...it will be ugly.  RagAss   Nov-15-09 09:18 PM   #47 
  - K n R.  mzmolly   Nov-15-09 10:02 PM   #53 
  - K&R! n/t  juno jones   Nov-15-09 10:56 PM   #55 
  - Very cool thanks for posting!  Indenturedebtor   Nov-15-09 11:31 PM   #59 
  - Arizmendi Bakeries... I know there's one in San Francisco, and another in Emeryville (East Bay)...  LooseWilly   Nov-16-09 12:17 AM   #61 
  - Yes, I shop at Rainbow Grocery in SF, it's a coop and has great food, house stuff and service.  diane in sf   Nov-16-09 01:50 AM   #70 
  - Interesting conversation with conservative fundie at work about this  AllyCat   Nov-16-09 12:52 AM   #63 
  - You have found the opening we should ALL be pursuing!  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:44 PM   #118 
  - Mondragon!!!...GREAT POST. thanks..  BrklynLiberal   Nov-16-09 01:32 AM   #69 
  - K&R  Vidar   Nov-16-09 01:53 AM   #71 
  - Mondragon - kinda nice to know they are still in business  hfojvt   Nov-16-09 02:01 AM   #72 
  - So, you knew about this before..... news to me.  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 09:51 PM   #111 
  - Enthusiastic K&R  Mithreal   Nov-16-09 02:56 AM   #74 
  - kick  Hannah Bell   Nov-16-09 03:56 AM   #75 
  - K & R  democrank   Nov-16-09 04:03 AM   #76 
  - Excellent! Thank You So Much!  Demeter   Nov-16-09 04:33 AM   #77 
  - K&R!!!  maryf   Nov-16-09 05:10 AM   #78 
  - Great post bobbolink. K&R  Cyrano   Nov-16-09 06:09 AM   #79 
  - K&R  NikolaC   Nov-16-09 06:34 AM   #81 
  - K&R Did you see this feature about Pittsboro on Democracy Now?  Turborama   Nov-16-09 06:58 AM   #82 
  - W.L. Gore (Goretex) is another corporation with an interesting hierarchy  lostnfound   Nov-16-09 07:48 AM   #84 
  - k&r n/t  blindpig   Nov-16-09 08:00 AM   #85 
  - While this is very good for the workers,  blindpig   Nov-16-09 08:14 AM   #86 
  - Great post, bobbolink!!  Kermitt Gribble   Nov-16-09 08:14 AM   #87 
  - I always add 'stockholders' to ceo's when I'm angry about the arrogance of the  peacetalksforall   Nov-16-09 08:37 AM   #88 
  - We should never let that out of our sights  blindpig   Nov-16-09 09:59 AM   #93 
  - What's the difference? It's quite clear.... the stockholder of corporations collects a check  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:48 PM   #119 
  - Good morning. n/t  Greyhound   Nov-16-09 09:03 AM   #89 
  - K&R  pleah   Nov-16-09 09:43 AM   #90 
  - K&R! //nt  Overseas   Nov-16-09 09:51 AM   #91 
  - k and r  femrap   Nov-16-09 09:58 AM   #92 
  - Communism!  Enthusiast   Nov-16-09 10:41 AM   #94 
  - K&R  dajoki   Nov-16-09 11:30 AM   #95 
  - This needs to be pushed as responsible, green business  Sinti   Nov-16-09 11:46 AM   #96 
  - Thank you! K&R  Bryn   Nov-16-09 12:49 PM   #99 
  - finally! nt  Deep13   Nov-16-09 01:00 PM   #100 
  - I hope this becomes the model of the future - humane coops instead of greedy corporations  BREMPRO   Nov-16-09 01:05 PM   #101 
  - The only hope we have is that WE MAKE it the model of the future!  bobbolink   Nov-16-09 10:50 PM   #120 
  - Fascinating  varelse   Nov-16-09 01:55 PM   #102 
  - Very interesting....  AntiFascist   Nov-16-09 02:59 PM   #105 
  - Sounds like a sustainable system. . .n/t  annabanana   Nov-16-09 03:24 PM   #107 
  - Too late to rec, but here's another perspective. I was hired at a building co-op in '83.  bertman   Nov-16-09 09:02 PM   #109 
  - Thank you for sharing all of this! You have a fascinating story here... it sounds like its  bobbolink   Nov-17-09 04:24 PM   #122 
     - Funny, bobbolink, I'd never thought of a book about the co-op aspect of those years, but I have  bertman   Nov-17-09 09:30 PM   #123 
        - Would you be interested in writing a book? The more you talk about it, the more it sounds  bobbolink   Nov-18-09 02:45 PM   #126 
  - Great article, thanks for sharing nt  Luciferous   Nov-17-09 09:33 PM   #124 
  - .  Nikki Stone1   Nov-17-09 10:15 PM   #125 
 

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