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Sun Nov-15-09 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
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Edited on Sun Nov-15-09 05:32 PM by Speck Tater
Density is mass per unit volume.
Relative Density, or Specific Gravity is what Archimedes shouted Eureka about, because it showed him the way to determine whether gold was pure or not without melting it down.
However, two alloys with the same density can not be distinguished by density or specific gravity alone. A mass spectrometer would only work by vaporizing a sample. But if you cut into the bar then you see, just by looking at the inside of the bar, that it wasn't gold all the way through.
Adding extra gold WOULD make the bar weigh as much as a proper gold bar, but it would also have a greater volume, so the density would still be off. That method would not work.
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| -Are your gold bars "tungsten salted" |
lovuian |
Nov-15-09 03:31 PM |
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Alas, I have relatively few gold bars. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Nov-15-09 03:34 PM |
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Gld ETF Warning, Tungsten Filled Fake Gold Bars |
DJ13 |
Nov-15-09 03:36 PM |
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so I guess it is possible to fake out a person |
lovuian |
Nov-15-09 03:40 PM |
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Hmm... I'll check the next time I get down to my vault |
htuttle |
Nov-15-09 03:38 PM |
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Seen the price of tungsten lately? $13 a lb. or so? |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-15-09 03:38 PM |
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Assayed or melted |
lovuian |
Nov-15-09 03:41 PM |
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My gold bars have chocolate in them |
XemaSab |
Nov-15-09 03:41 PM |
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the best |
lovuian |
Nov-15-09 03:41 PM |
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If it's decent chocolate, it's worth more than some crummy tungsten! |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-15-09 03:50 PM |
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This is why my vault is exclusively filled with pennies. |
Robb |
Nov-15-09 03:42 PM |
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wouldn't it be somethin |
lovuian |
Nov-15-09 03:45 PM |
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I need tungsten to live! Tungsten!!! |
Libertas1776 |
Nov-15-09 03:48 PM |
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What is more important to humanity: cannabis or tungsten |
me b zola |
Nov-15-09 05:16 PM |
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chocolate |
lovuian |
Nov-16-09 12:08 AM |
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Unfortunately the density of tungsten and gold are NOT the same (of course) ... |
Techn0Girl |
Nov-15-09 03:49 PM |
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0.07 g per cubic centimeter |
lurky |
Nov-15-09 04:06 PM |
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It should be possible to make a tungsten/iridium alloy that weighs exactly the same as gold. |
Speck Tater |
Nov-15-09 04:20 PM |
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OH and P.S. that's also why there's mass spectrometry |
ddeclue |
Nov-15-09 04:26 PM |
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Yeah... |
Techn0Girl |
Nov-15-09 04:28 PM |
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I don't think "density" means what you think it means |
Techn0Girl |
Nov-15-09 04:20 PM |
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Density = |
Speck Tater |
Nov-15-09 05:30 PM |
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Googleing someting doesn't mean that you understand something.... |
Techn0Girl |
Nov-15-09 06:50 PM |
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Does my MS in Engineering count? |
Speck Tater |
Nov-15-09 07:15 PM |
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Aerodynamics isn't the same as metallurgy. I know that from the Google. |
petronius |
Nov-16-09 12:17 AM |
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(quick aside) I have two friends, REAL rocket scientists, named Einstein |
DainBramaged |
Nov-19-09 03:12 AM |
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What's a gold bar? |
liberal N proud |
Nov-15-09 03:49 PM |
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Ironically, tungsten has many industrial uses, gold, not so much. Yet gold is vauled higher. |
joshcryer |
Nov-15-09 03:57 PM |
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Hardly! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-15-09 04:59 PM |
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A $5.00 - $10.00 Voltmeter at any radio shack would catch the fake |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-15-09 05:03 PM |
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BY FAR the world's largest producer of tungsten is ... China. |
eppur_se_muova |
Nov-15-09 04:15 PM |
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Don't show my wife this thread, please |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-15-09 04:17 PM |
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. |
XemaSab |
Nov-15-09 11:45 PM |
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Ummm if you have doubts get a blow torch. |
ddeclue |
Nov-15-09 04:25 PM |
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"You got tungsten in my gold!" |
Orrex |
Nov-15-09 04:27 PM |
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Thanks for the heads up |
Fla_Democrat |
Nov-15-09 04:27 PM |
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My gold bars? |
Individualist |
Nov-15-09 04:27 PM |
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Yeah. I can state with certainty that none of my gold bars contain anything at all. |
JVS |
Nov-15-09 04:33 PM |
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Two of my favorite scams: |
truedelphi |
Nov-15-09 04:41 PM |
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I think this is the least of my worries. I ain't got no gold bars |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-15-09 04:41 PM |
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Tungsten Salted Gold Bars sounds like a delicious snack food! |
NoPasaran |
Nov-15-09 04:43 PM |
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This is a plot element from a novel, "Cobra Gold" by Damien Lewis |
adamuu |
Nov-15-09 04:59 PM |
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Neutron activation analysis should do the job of detecting tungsten |
FarCenter |
Nov-15-09 11:25 PM |
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OMG!!! there is a Gold Coin advertisement on this thread ROFL |
lovuian |
Nov-16-09 12:06 AM |
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I'm getting a tungsten ad - just hope none of that tungsten |
petronius |
Nov-16-09 12:21 AM |
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There is a big difference between certified investment grade gold and scrap gold and used jewelry |
Monk06 |
Nov-16-09 12:43 AM |
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