Reply #48: I have not said you read anything into my OP

[blues90]

All I am pointing out is the reality I see and many others might see.

You see them as words of depair or a reason to quit. I see them as words of reality we need to accept and face.

You can define them how ever you like but they still exist as our reality.

If we are in this for humanity , then we have failed big time already.

Wars are not humane, cutting jobs and bailing out wallstreet on some sort of sick faith they will do the right thing is far from humane it's insane.

This may rub you the wrong way and I see it does because you have stated you see too much of it on DU as of late.

I stated the reality and ways we can affect change. Not everything but what I said was not a contradiction.

OK , you feel it's giving up , what are your thoughts on the reality , all you have said so far is this.

"It is too much, and I see it all over the place on DU recently. Giving up, despairing our powerlessness or angst over the insurmountable hill where we get run over again and again, is not acceptable. We are in this for humanity.

Again, failure is not an option."

I get the sense that you feel we should rely and believe in our reps to turn this madness around and those who have already lost everything should just sit tight help is on the way.

I spent year protesting the damn Vietnam war and the gulf war and the attack on Iraq , not one of these were considered humane in my eyes . We had 70% of this country who supported attacking Iraq , where is the humanity in that . Our fine reps went along with this, why was that?

Killing people is never humane. Allowing corporations to buy and control our government is not right and allowing citizens of this or any country to suffer because of the all mighty dollar is far form humane. Putting our soldiers in the ME to say we are being protected and the soldiers are left to being sent over and over again or to die or dis-figured in not humane. This is the reality , if it were not then we have no problem.