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| 76. a rising tide lifts all yachts. |
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if you don't have a yacht- you'd better learn to tread water.
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| -Obama hints at Pacific Rim free-trade pact |
DainBramaged |
Nov-14-09 02:57 PM |
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Not again...... |
DJ13 |
Nov-14-09 03:04 PM |
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It's too late. Abandon all hope all ye that enter here n/t |
Indenturedebtor |
Nov-15-09 03:42 AM |
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It's all about corporate profits. Fuck everything else. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Nov-15-09 11:03 AM |
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That dime's worth of difference is now becoming just a couple of cents |
MadHound |
Nov-14-09 03:07 PM |
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Amen! |
bobbolink |
Nov-15-09 07:15 PM |
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Obama, you're taking another step in the wrong direction. |
AndyA |
Nov-14-09 03:09 PM |
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But it's only been 11 months! Pony! Poutrage! Why do you hate hope? |
QC |
Nov-14-09 04:15 PM |
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Yes. PUMA and You Never Liked Him To Begin With |
Bluebear |
Nov-14-09 09:29 PM |
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Is it even possible to hate hope? |
JoeyT |
Nov-15-09 01:56 AM |
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I wonder how all the 'extremist' Black groups feel... |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:49 PM |
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To effectively compete are we going to have to drop the minimum wage to $1 a day? |
NightWatcher |
Nov-14-09 03:10 PM |
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Don't forget to dump the environmental and safety rules while you're at it. |
amandabeech |
Nov-14-09 03:13 PM |
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Well, since we are now a service enconomy, I don't think we'll have to |
Subdivisions |
Nov-15-09 11:05 AM |
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If they could find a way to replace them, they would. |
OnionPatch |
Nov-15-09 01:21 PM |
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Roto-Rooter guys also enjoy immunity to globalism. nt |
phasma ex machina |
Nov-15-09 04:44 PM |
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Just wait until the corporations start crying that they can't find qualified HVAC people. n/t |
Greyhound |
Nov-15-09 07:19 PM |
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The problem being |
laundry_queen |
Nov-16-09 12:07 AM |
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That isn't competition. That's inhumane and I don't give a shit which country it is. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:47 PM |
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very very bad. very. |
Mari333 |
Nov-14-09 03:10 PM |
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How are NAFTA and MFN for China helping our net jobs situation again? |
amandabeech |
Nov-14-09 03:11 PM |
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I feel the same way |
Luciferous |
Nov-14-09 04:18 PM |
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Thanks for posting. |
amandabeech |
Nov-14-09 07:18 PM |
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Not only that wait until cheap U.S. grains put China's farmers out of business |
JCMach1 |
Nov-14-09 11:26 PM |
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Sorry. China often has difficulty producing enough food for itself. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-09 12:10 AM |
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True, but we will put their farmers out of business like we have Mexico's |
JCMach1 |
Nov-15-09 03:36 AM |
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We don't grow enough food to put both China's and Mexico's farmers out of business. |
amandabeech |
Nov-16-09 01:56 PM |
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Bad idea. Any trade agreements should be based on countries providing good wages... |
JVS |
Nov-14-09 03:18 PM |
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***F-A-I-R TRADE*** Not "Free" trade Damnit! |
Go2Peace |
Nov-14-09 03:21 PM |
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Where are the pom pom girls? |
Yuugal |
Nov-14-09 03:27 PM |
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What is a "pom pom girl"? |
HughMoran |
Nov-14-09 03:30 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-14-09 04:11 PM |
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So anybody who doesn't acknowledge that "Obama hasn't done a damn thing ... of substance" |
HughMoran |
Nov-14-09 04:40 PM |
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Thats you restating what I said incorrectly |
Yuugal |
Nov-14-09 04:54 PM |
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Well, since you're so open minded |
HughMoran |
Nov-14-09 06:44 PM |
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Its like the unrec thing |
Yuugal |
Nov-14-09 06:50 PM |
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Do try to pick of the pieces of your broken life. |
Bluebear |
Nov-14-09 09:30 PM |
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I guess they really want to break the American middle class down into peasants |
DireStrike |
Nov-14-09 04:12 PM |
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God dammit. nt |
anonymous171 |
Nov-14-09 04:14 PM |
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nodding |
Bluebear |
Nov-15-09 04:29 PM |
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I was so pissed when I read that article earlier today... |
Luciferous |
Nov-14-09 04:14 PM |
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Motto: "Because NAFTA didn't drain jobs fast enough" |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-14-09 04:15 PM |
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No we cannot so stop saying that! |
KamaAina |
Nov-14-09 11:20 PM |
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We should all become prostitutes. Some earn $5000 per blow job... AND are non-partisan! |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:50 PM |
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How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t |
QC |
Nov-14-09 04:16 PM |
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I'm getting really sick of this |
GCP |
Nov-14-09 04:23 PM |
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This will prove to be very popular with the base.... |
depakid |
Nov-14-09 04:31 PM |
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I'm tired of this shit. Really, really tired. Could someone please explain to me how this creates |
Brickbat |
Nov-14-09 04:34 PM |
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It doesn't. |
StreetKnowledge |
Nov-14-09 06:02 PM |
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No, I know. |
Brickbat |
Nov-14-09 06:25 PM |
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You forgot all the textile jobs in the South , NC, SC, etc. I |
pokercat999 |
Nov-16-09 10:54 AM |
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Another free trade agreement to go with all the others that have worked out |
neverforget |
Nov-14-09 04:43 PM |
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I thought he was suppose to be working on creating jobs here in the US |
liberal_at_heart |
Nov-14-09 04:46 PM |
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Beijing is the 51st state. Mumbai is the 52nd. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:54 PM |
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Clearly this is a going to be a bad thing. |
ProSense |
Nov-14-09 04:57 PM |
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USTR FACT SHEET: Trans-Pacific Partnership |
DainBramaged |
Nov-14-09 05:11 PM |
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What a champ. |
LWolf |
Nov-14-09 05:47 PM |
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Is champ code for corporate toady? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-14-09 06:32 PM |
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Both, depending |
LWolf |
Nov-14-09 06:45 PM |
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your sigline doesn't work n/t |
latebloomer |
Nov-15-09 07:17 PM |
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More DLC doublespeak |
Individualist |
Nov-14-09 06:48 PM |
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It is NOT possible to be a Free Trader.... |
bvar22 |
Nov-14-09 07:00 PM |
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Oh, well, that was during the campaign. |
QC |
Nov-14-09 07:01 PM |
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All that liberal stuff is in the closet, waiting for the 2011 |
pokercat999 |
Nov-16-09 11:07 AM |
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Under the bus is getting very crowded. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-14-09 08:56 PM |
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A big UP YOURS to the American worker |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-14-09 07:04 PM |
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I am just about to the point of giving up on Obama. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Nov-14-09 07:59 PM |
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Yet other countries are worried about his policies on offshoring. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:52 PM |
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Oh no! Asians having decent jobs! Run! Hide! |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Nov-14-09 08:02 PM |
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If by "decent jobs" you mean living in squalor and making a pittance |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-14-09 08:07 PM |
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US workers making $15.00 an hour fired and replaced by Asians making 50 cents. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Nov-14-09 08:19 PM |
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Maybe he is a CEO or a filthy rich investor? |
anonymous171 |
Nov-14-09 09:11 PM |
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A rich filthy CEO perhaps? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-14-09 09:16 PM |
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Ya, I'm filthy rich. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Nov-15-09 12:33 AM |
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he is a free trade squatter here. |
DainBramaged |
Nov-14-09 10:35 PM |
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That might be true if it weren't bullshit. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Nov-14-09 11:04 PM |
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And to keep their currencies artificially low. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-09 12:17 AM |
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Yes, because we're really leading the world in establishing environmental standards. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Nov-15-09 12:32 AM |
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We're doing a helluva lot better than them. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-09 02:20 AM |
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You've got to be joking me. Honestly, China's standards are far worse than ours. |
Selatius |
Nov-15-09 07:09 PM |
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You are so full of shit. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Nov-15-09 01:00 AM |
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They've got that base covered, too, I'm afraid. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-15-09 04:00 AM |
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I've read that too. Thank you for responding to these folks... |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:56 PM |
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Try selling American products on Chinese shores and see how much they levy in tariffs. |
Selatius |
Nov-15-09 07:06 PM |
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Says the guy with the Apple logo |
slutticus |
Nov-15-09 10:58 AM |
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Always on every thread dissing the American worker, I've noticed. n/t |
OhioChick |
Nov-14-09 08:58 PM |
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+1 n/t |
ChromeFoundry |
Nov-14-09 09:00 PM |
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Never fails. n/t |
QC |
Nov-14-09 09:22 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-15-09 12:36 AM |
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Then stop bothering us, save yourself the mental anguish...... |
DainBramaged |
Nov-15-09 09:39 AM |
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Name calling now, I see.... |
OhioChick |
Nov-15-09 10:43 AM |
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An accurate observation nt |
spoony |
Nov-15-09 02:44 AM |
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Yeah, don't they know that they need to work for us? |
anonymous171 |
Nov-14-09 09:06 PM |
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You grossly miss the point, but it's not worth trying to spell it out to you. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:47 PM |
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Considered the username |
PM Martin |
Nov-14-09 09:40 PM |
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The username is a joke based on Palin's rather odd naming of her children. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Nov-14-09 11:02 PM |
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Go spew your bullshit somewhere else, you wouldn't support American labor |
DainBramaged |
Nov-14-09 10:34 PM |
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I don't know that I've ever spewed "free trade crap." |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Nov-14-09 11:01 PM |
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You've haunted my threads for over a year, you act like a spurned lover |
DainBramaged |
Nov-15-09 09:37 AM |
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Ahh, more anti-American labour propaganda |
spoony |
Nov-15-09 02:43 AM |
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Sorry, he's right. There is a lot of anti-Asian racism on threads like this. |
anigbrowl |
Nov-15-09 05:05 PM |
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They "look" like corporate tools telling anyone against |
spoony |
Nov-15-09 11:50 PM |
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You have an odd definition of decent jobs. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-15-09 04:14 AM |
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If globalization were expansion, nobody would lose their job. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:46 PM |
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This is not what I voted for...........n/t |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-14-09 08:03 PM |
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Obama doesn't seem too concerned about decent paying jobs for American workers. Nice, eh? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-14-09 09:02 PM |
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I never saw this coming......... did anyone see this coming?? |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-14-09 11:08 PM |
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I was hoping it wouldn't be a repeat of Clinton, but |
Elwood P Dowd |
Nov-14-09 11:49 PM |
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Yes. When I read that he had hired Austan Goolsbee from the U. of Chicago. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-09 12:20 AM |
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There were many such signs during the primaries |
QC |
Nov-15-09 12:52 PM |
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Early on, I'd had my fill of GD-Politics. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-09 04:41 PM |
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It was a nasty time, wasn't it? |
QC |
Nov-15-09 09:53 PM |
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If DU is still around for the next Dem primary (maybe 2016), I'll stay away. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-09 10:19 PM |
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It really was a disaster. In 2004, people who showed up spitting fire and personal attacks |
QC |
Nov-15-09 11:31 PM |
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Yes. DU lost quite a few quality posters in that fiasco. |
amandabeech |
Nov-16-09 06:18 PM |
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Yes I did, centrist |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-15-09 05:13 PM |
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You must be fairly new here, many, many people saw this coming |
Greyhound |
Nov-15-09 07:30 PM |
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Quite a few of those people aren't here anymore. |
QC |
Nov-15-09 08:21 PM |
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Good point. n/t |
Greyhound |
Nov-15-09 08:24 PM |
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Ah, but you are missing the larger picture. |
noamnety |
Nov-15-09 04:41 PM |
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New boss, same as the old boss. n/t |
OhioChick |
Nov-14-09 08:59 PM |
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change you can believe in |
ChromeFoundry |
Nov-14-09 09:07 PM |
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goodie....more jobs lost....n/t |
unkachuck |
Nov-14-09 09:28 PM |
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I really hope The Nation does an article on this soon. n/t |
nyc 4 Biden |
Nov-14-09 09:39 PM |
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I know Katrina slightly. You can count on it! n/t |
DFW |
Nov-15-09 05:16 AM |
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There is no such thing as "free trade". It is a corporate buzz word designed to... |
AdHocSolver |
Nov-15-09 12:03 AM |
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+10000 |
moondust |
Nov-15-09 12:22 AM |
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You're absolutely right and well said. n/t |
OhioChick |
Nov-15-09 11:13 AM |
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Well said |
Canuckistanian |
Nov-15-09 11:19 AM |
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Don't worry. |
MilesColtrane |
Nov-15-09 12:17 AM |
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a rising tide lifts all yachts. |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-15-09 12:24 AM |
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I vaguely remember Obama distancing himself from the DLC during the primaries... |
yurbud |
Nov-15-09 01:06 AM |
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The only difference between Obama and a card carrying member of the DLC |
QC |
Nov-15-09 05:04 PM |
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The distancing was a smoke screen. |
Individualist |
Nov-16-09 10:58 AM |
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Let's just call this what it is: NAFTA/CAFTA for Asia. |
earth mom |
Nov-15-09 02:14 AM |
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Always putting America last. |
Libertas1776 |
Nov-15-09 02:15 AM |
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more evidence Dems hate being in power |
optimator |
Nov-15-09 02:35 AM |
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Never believed in Obama but... |
Andronex |
Nov-15-09 03:06 AM |
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I'll wait and see what really happens before going ballistic |
DFW |
Nov-15-09 05:21 AM |
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Right here..... |
DainBramaged |
Nov-15-09 09:46 AM |
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The problem with that is once you see what really happened, it's too late. n/t |
Greyhound |
Nov-15-09 07:36 PM |
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It's time for a new trade agreement with the entire world. |
pokercat999 |
Nov-15-09 05:39 AM |
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That a big positive step. It's similar to what the EU does when it admits new members. |
pampango |
Nov-16-09 05:15 AM |
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Wow. We are so, so fucked. |
Kitsune |
Nov-15-09 11:02 AM |
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"Can't we just admit that capitalism has failed completely" |
Andronex |
Nov-15-09 11:34 AM |
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I see Obama is working real hard to create jobs..... |
OnionPatch |
Nov-15-09 12:16 PM |
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Like on SNL, bankruptcy attorneys, repo men, auctioneers..... |
DainBramaged |
Nov-15-09 12:53 PM |
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WTF! |
lovelyrita |
Nov-15-09 03:02 PM |
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I would support such a thing, because free trade is good |
anigbrowl |
Nov-15-09 05:00 PM |
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I never knew that unemployment was a good thing. |
anonymous171 |
Nov-15-09 05:05 PM |
#119 |
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Didn't take long for the straw man arguments to appear |
anigbrowl |
Nov-15-09 05:07 PM |
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OK. Your analogy was false. |
anonymous171 |
Nov-15-09 05:17 PM |
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No, I don't think so. |
anigbrowl |
Nov-15-09 05:36 PM |
#124 |
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Production may have increased, but wages for the American worker have been stagnant. |
anonymous171 |
Nov-15-09 07:01 PM |
#135 |
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You argument would work, except that Europeans tend to enjoy a higher standaard of living |
Romulox |
Nov-16-09 02:15 PM |
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Oh ffs, if I'd read this first... |
spoony |
Nov-15-09 11:52 PM |
#154 |
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Well, if bankers can whine about 'return on investment' for education, so can we. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:45 PM |
#125 |
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The title suggests "hints". Nothing is signed yet, but people will likely be watching. |
Deja Q |
Nov-15-09 05:55 PM |
#133 |
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I think this is great! Why sink slowly to third world status when we can race there insetad? |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-15-09 07:11 PM |
#138 |
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Doesn't the third world deserve a chance to produce cheap plastic shit for us? |
anonymous171 |
Nov-15-09 07:13 PM |
#139 |
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Corporate America is dying to get at Vietnam's cheap labor |
DainBramaged |
Nov-16-09 03:24 AM |
#156 |
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Trade with Chile, New Zealand, and Singapore is more or less trade among equals. |
Zynx |
Nov-15-09 07:42 PM |
#145 |
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And he said he was against NAFTA. HA!!! |
Xicano |
Nov-15-09 07:43 PM |
#146 |
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He also called people frustrated by trade policy "bitter" and likened them to racists... |
Romulox |
Nov-16-09 02:13 PM |
#162 |
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It is all part of the 3D Holo Chess Obama is playing. |
Chisox08 |
Nov-15-09 08:07 PM |
#147 |
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