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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 07:01 PM
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19. It wasn't much a secret
During a recent walk around the neighborhood, I wandered into a local Catholic church to look at the art. They had all kinds of Stupak related literature on tables near the door. Letters from Catholic bishops, numbers to call, names of Congressmen, resources for sending form letters, etc.

I couldn't tell you if they were preaching it from the pulpit (I'm no longer a Catholic), but they certainly weren't shy about this initiative.
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  -Catholics admit being the force behind Stupak. Have Hall of Shame for those who voted against it. madfloridian  Nov-14-09 12:02 PM   #0 
  - Do they have pics of all of the abusive priests? N/T  NRaleighLiberal   Nov-14-09 12:04 PM   #1 
  - I doubt it  47of74   Nov-14-09 12:10 PM   #3 
  - How about for Catholics who support the death penalty?  baldguy   Nov-14-09 12:08 PM   #2 
  - I commend those this website condemns. Names.  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 12:34 PM   #4 
  - I commend them as well.  47of74   Nov-14-09 01:14 PM   #7 
  - I think that may have been their thinking.  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 02:06 PM   #8 
  - I have a hard time commending anyone  skepticscott   Nov-15-09 09:25 PM   #44 
  - In other words  DonCoquixote   Nov-16-09 07:48 PM   #69 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Nov-14-09 12:40 PM   #5 
  - From JFK in 1960  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 06:26 PM   #13 
  - The 64 Yes votes for Stupak were 62 men, only 2 women. My own Hall of Shame.  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 12:56 PM   #6 
  - Let's see, from that list:  Tommy_Carcetti   Nov-16-09 11:47 AM   #51 
  - "take your own little Madfloridian Hall of Shame list and shove it"  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 09:18 PM   #70 
  - Pretty classy. (nt)  Ignis   Nov-17-09 01:45 PM   #90 
  - You lost me there. What are you getting at? I'm not sure I understand the  NoSheep   Nov-16-09 09:55 PM   #72 
     - That's the percentage they've voted with the Democratic Party on bills.  Tommy_Carcetti   Nov-17-09 08:41 AM   #85 
        - Okay. Now I understand exactly what you meant. Thanks for clarifying.  NoSheep   Nov-17-09 09:04 AM   #86 
        - "many here" -- wrong, DUers are overwhelmingly pro-choice  Ignis   Nov-17-09 01:44 PM   #89 
           - Many, most, overhwhelmingly, etc....  Tommy_Carcetti   Nov-17-09 01:50 PM   #91 
              - The point is that women's rights are a core part of the D platform.  Ignis   Nov-17-09 01:59 PM   #93 
                 - That only really works if...  Tommy_Carcetti   Nov-17-09 02:06 PM   #94 
                    - YOU may frame it that way, if you like.  Ignis   Nov-17-09 02:35 PM   #96 
  - The "64"  aero56   Nov-16-09 04:46 PM   #56 
  - I heard Trudy Lieberman say that Stupak works for the Catholic Bishops.  imdjh   Nov-14-09 02:23 PM   #9 
  - You can report tax fraud and I think we should make a conserted effort to do so  Maraya1969   Nov-14-09 02:32 PM   #10 
  - Very upsetting tone in that article at catholics.org.  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 03:06 PM   #11 
  - Very few Americans understand that the Vatican opposes democracy . . . "equality for all" . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 06:04 PM   #37 
  - Comment from insurance rep....this would mean nearly no coverage of abortion.  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 04:43 PM   #12 
  - thanks for the post  mdmc   Nov-14-09 06:27 PM   #14 
  - Why isn't the IRS looking into this?-Talk about Religion butting its nose into politics!! n/t  Rectangle   Nov-14-09 06:31 PM   #15 
  - If they're so keen on "natural death"  Blue State Blues   Nov-14-09 06:45 PM   #16 
  - Tax these fuckers!  Odin2005   Nov-14-09 06:54 PM   #17 
  - Agreed. They've crossed the line. Tax the crap out of them.  Liberal In Texas   Nov-14-09 08:32 PM   #20 
  - Agree -- and they crossed the line long, long ago --  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 06:06 PM   #38 
  - Agreed !!!  WillyT   Nov-16-09 05:36 PM   #58 
  - Absolutely tax the fuck out of them. They've gone too far.  Initech   Nov-16-09 06:57 PM   #66 
  - What next? Excommunication for Catholics who don't fall in line?  liberal_at_heart   Nov-14-09 07:00 PM   #18 
  - Could be unpleasant for them.  madfloridian   Nov-15-09 10:25 AM   #23 
  - Patrick Kennedy has already been threatened with excommunication.  provis99   Nov-15-09 03:58 PM   #28 
  - It wasn't much a secret  Prism   Nov-14-09 07:01 PM   #19 
  - The DNC platform promised to stand up for women's right to an abortion...  madfloridian   Nov-14-09 11:18 PM   #21 
  - More delusion from the masters  autorank   Nov-14-09 11:48 PM   #22 
  - "The Bishops' Huge Financial Stake in Stupak-Pitts"  madfloridian   Nov-15-09 12:20 PM   #24 
  - Their house of cards is also falling re birth control and abortion . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 05:45 PM   #34 
  - A must read: "How the Stupak-Pitts Amendment May Change Our Politics"  madfloridian   Nov-15-09 12:24 PM   #25 
  - It's an open attempt to force the government to adhere to Catholic doctrine.  ChadwickHenryWard   Nov-15-09 02:56 PM   #26 
  - you forgot the majority of the supremes are Catholic  madrchsod   Nov-15-09 03:44 PM   #27 
  - This is different.  chrisa   Nov-15-09 04:24 PM   #31 
  - Well... the inherent fear has always been of a RCC which is a DICTATORSHIP . . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 06:19 PM   #40 
     - You are right on!  olegramps   Nov-16-09 09:42 AM   #46 
  - Well...think upon the fact that W came thru with $$$$ for the Church via "faith-based"  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 05:51 PM   #36 
  - I think the amendment is ridiculous, but I also think the Catholic Church has a right to...  ColesCountyDem   Nov-15-09 04:05 PM   #29 
  - They have free speech. As a woman I have a right to speak...  madfloridian   Nov-15-09 04:14 PM   #30 
  - Then you don't understand Separation of Church & State . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 06:10 PM   #39 
     - It seems to be you that doesn't understand  skepticscott   Nov-15-09 09:23 PM   #43 
        - You need to read the whole article I posted. Way more than about "issues"  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 10:50 AM   #50 
        - How they speak out is their business  skepticscott   Nov-16-09 06:11 PM   #59 
           - If they want to be exempt from taxes they don't get that much power  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 06:17 PM   #61 
           - So you say and think  skepticscott   Nov-16-09 09:50 PM   #71 
           - They can't act as a lobbying organization and expect a tax exemption.  immoderate   Nov-16-09 06:38 PM   #64 
        - No Church is permitted to be POLITICALLY ACTIVE and tax-exempt . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 12:08 PM   #52 
           - Sorry, but you're wrong  skepticscott   Nov-16-09 06:14 PM   #60 
              - They can push issues.  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 06:19 PM   #62 
              - "They are heading into the realm of controlling the congress"?  skepticscott   Nov-16-09 09:55 PM   #73 
              - Thank you  FLDCVADem   Nov-16-09 06:40 PM   #65 
              - They are pushing their agenda almost forcibly.....  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 07:32 PM   #68 
                 - I have an internet friend in the South who says that the Catholic Church there  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:11 PM   #75 
              - A church isn't a typical "tax exempt organization" . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:09 PM   #74 
                 - And what do you base that on  skepticscott   Nov-17-09 05:25 AM   #84 
                    - Were our Founders "emotional" . . . ??? The Founders understood the dangers of  defendandprotect   Nov-17-09 01:31 PM   #88 
                       - Gee, hyperventilate much?  skepticscott   Nov-18-09 04:59 AM   #97 
                          - Let's try this . . . are you saying we're defenseless against theocracy? Or that you want one?  defendandprotect   Nov-18-09 10:26 AM   #98 
  - the hypocrisy, "killing isn't healthcare(unless it's only a woman)"  KakistocracyHater   Nov-15-09 04:51 PM   #32 
  - "killing isn't health care" . . . but "Pro-Lifers" have a pass to kill doctors -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 06:21 PM   #41 
     - in CHURCH!! even  KakistocracyHater   Nov-16-09 05:34 PM   #57 
        - Anyone who ever had an illegal abortion understood immediately that their lives  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:12 PM   #76 
  - Male-supremacist Vatican has plenty of $$$$ for game-playing + Americans are subsdizing them!!  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 05:41 PM   #33 
  - The other contribution to this hijacked health care bill is the rise of the evangelicals.  seafan   Nov-15-09 05:46 PM   #35 
  - The right wing religious movement in America is also financed by RIGHT WING . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-15-09 06:24 PM   #42 
  - i'm not surprised. nt  DesertFlower   Nov-15-09 10:59 PM   #45 
  - Time to take away the non-profit status of churches.  Nikki Stone1   Nov-16-09 09:56 AM   #47 
  - The Catholic Church is a government  Angry Dragon   Nov-16-09 10:03 AM   #48 
  - The day the Catholic Church institutes a program  mudplanet   Nov-16-09 10:41 AM   #49 
  - There's quite a few organizations like that around...  brendan120678   Nov-17-09 02:23 PM   #95 
  - Sadly, their tax exempt status cannot be attacked  joeglow3   Nov-16-09 12:14 PM   #53 
  - Read the article in the OP. They are advocating getting rid of the ones who voted no.  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 06:24 PM   #63 
  - Good point, but...  joeglow3   Nov-16-09 11:29 PM   #82 
     - Relax, nothing will be done. They have the power over women.  madfloridian   Nov-17-09 01:57 PM   #92 
  - If the public became aware of the $$$$$$$$ these churches are thowing into these  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:14 PM   #77 
  - Faith communities coalesce against Stupak.  madfloridian   Nov-16-09 03:01 PM   #54 
  - Church and State  aero56   Nov-16-09 04:41 PM   #55 
  - Also because it's a male-supremacist outfit -- !!! People rarely seem to notice that, somehow...!!!  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:16 PM   #79 
  - Remember this, when you say  mmonk   Nov-16-09 07:07 PM   #67 
  - The Vatican was opposed to democracy and "equality for all" from the first ...  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:22 PM   #80 
     - I don't think the hierarchy has given up on here. They are aggressive  mmonk   Nov-17-09 04:57 AM   #83 
        - They won't totally give up -- they will keep hammering at it --  defendandprotect   Nov-17-09 01:28 PM   #87 
  - Bad Catholic!  HughMoran   Nov-16-09 10:14 PM   #78 
  - k i c k  defendandprotect   Nov-16-09 10:46 PM   #81 
 

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