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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 02:18 PM
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22. Just what do you think he's advocating when he says this?
"Be very careful about confusing a wholesale effort in Afghanistan with what we need to do in Pakistan," he explained. "One of the things I've pointed out: we've spent about $243 billion in Afghanistan cumulatively over the last eight years. We've spent maybe $10 billion less in Pakistan in that period of time. But Pakistan, everybody acknowledges, is of much more serious national security consequence to the United States."
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  -Sen. Kerry: US can't 'walk away' from Afghanistan bigtree  Nov-13-09 12:46 PM   #0 
  - The main reason we can't just walk away is that private contractors...  polichick   Nov-13-09 12:50 PM   #1 
  - I hate to say this (AGAIN) by Kerry's words are being spun AGAIN...  YvonneCa   Nov-13-09 02:06 PM   #19 
     - I'm not referring to Kerry - just saying why we can't leave.nt  polichick   Nov-13-09 02:21 PM   #24 
        - Chomsky said of Zinn's 67' book, The Logic of Withdrawal...  Echo In Light   Nov-13-09 02:27 PM   #28 
        - Ha! Exactly. Here's a recent look at our contractor situation:  polichick   Nov-13-09 03:19 PM   #45 
        - I know. Sorry, I meant to post this in a different...  YvonneCa   Nov-13-09 05:39 PM   #55 
           - No problem - this is a thread about Kerry. I SHOULD've been posting about him. nt  polichick   Nov-13-09 05:54 PM   #58 
  - Hill headline cherry picks to make it sound like he sides with hawk position - he doesn't.  blm   Nov-13-09 12:55 PM   #2 
  - I don't think the headline has that effect  bigtree   Nov-13-09 01:10 PM   #4 
  - You have more faith in The Hill than I do. I read it the way they intend.  blm   Nov-13-09 01:18 PM   #6 
  - he certainly does have a nuanced view.  bigtree   Nov-13-09 02:19 PM   #23 
     - But one would never KNOW that based on this short 'news' article that doesn't give any ink  blm   Nov-13-09 02:54 PM   #36 
        - I'm glad that you're providing all of that nuance for folks here  bigtree   Nov-13-09 03:03 PM   #39 
           - Well....knowing that Kerry prefers terrorism be dealt with as a law enforcement issue  blm   Nov-13-09 03:13 PM   #41 
           - blm  bigtree   Nov-13-09 03:15 PM   #42 
              - Saw one today in Charlotte. I usually see about 3-4 a week.  blm   Nov-13-09 03:25 PM   #46 
              - still love ya  bigtree   Nov-13-09 03:27 PM   #47 
                 - Hey... try menopause AND prednisone at the same time...heheh....  blm   Nov-13-09 04:13 PM   #50 
                    - YOU POOR THING.  emulatorloo   Nov-13-09 05:30 PM   #54 
                       - Actually, I'm not having the pred-head problems, at all. The physical side effects are  blm   Nov-14-09 07:56 AM   #67 
              - I've seen many of your past posts in support of Kerry  karynnj   Nov-13-09 06:12 PM   #60 
           - If a vote were held, it would be because a Senator  karynnj   Nov-13-09 06:09 PM   #59 
              - it all still amounts to staying past where I think is prudent  bigtree   Nov-13-09 07:22 PM   #63 
                 - You mean to prevent AQ from having a safe haven and not furtther destabalizing Pakistan?  karynnj   Nov-13-09 07:59 PM   #64 
  - He is definately not for occupation  karynnj   Nov-13-09 02:02 PM   #17 
     - show me where he says we should leave Afghanistan.  bigtree   Nov-13-09 02:06 PM   #18 
  - Did you hear what Tony Brown said in a recent interview?  redqueen   Nov-13-09 01:16 PM   #5 
  - But you have to admit all the pushing is fun to watch.  SIMPLYB1980   Nov-13-09 01:19 PM   #7 
     - Heh, yeah...  redqueen   Nov-13-09 01:23 PM   #10 
        - fucking great for the folks who are fighting and dying at the point of his decision  bigtree   Nov-13-09 02:40 PM   #31 
           - In Vietnam the soldiers stopped following orders, which did a lot to bring the war to an end.  redqueen   Nov-13-09 02:45 PM   #33 
              - what kind of shit is that? Enjoy?  bigtree   Nov-13-09 02:50 PM   #35 
                 - "Whoopee we're all gonna die!"  redqueen   Nov-13-09 02:56 PM   #37 
                    - 'your effort is wasted'  bigtree   Nov-13-09 03:04 PM   #40 
                       - Nice edit!  redqueen   Nov-13-09 03:15 PM   #43 
                          - too late  bigtree   Nov-13-09 03:16 PM   #44 
  - I hate to say this (AGAIN) by Kerry's words are being spun AGAIN...  YvonneCa   Nov-13-09 02:09 PM   #20 
  - "When will we stop falling for this spin?"  redqueen   Nov-13-09 02:23 PM   #26 
  - how do you interpret 'You can't just walk away'?  bigtree   Nov-13-09 02:29 PM   #29 
     - This is the fallacy of extremes.  Orsino   Nov-14-09 08:13 AM   #69 
        - Thank you! n/t  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:25 AM   #79 
  - this post (article) doesn't imply that he's the 'enemy' at all  bigtree   Nov-13-09 02:25 PM   #27 
  - That's the problem we had with GWB. Every issue was...  YvonneCa   Nov-13-09 05:50 PM   #57 
     - that's just your interpretation  bigtree   Nov-13-09 10:49 PM   #66 
        - But he HAS made it clear.That's my point. And...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 10:49 AM   #70 
  - I agree with you and blm.  David Zephyr   Nov-13-09 04:42 PM   #53 
     - did he not say that?  bigtree   Nov-13-09 07:05 PM   #62 
        - Check THESE words...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:04 AM   #74 
           - they certainly qualify that statement of his. I don't deny that.  bigtree   Nov-14-09 11:41 AM   #81 
  - And to think this guy was  Enthusiast   Nov-13-09 04:36 PM   #51 
  - I thought the headline also was a dishonest read of Kerry's position.  David Zephyr   Nov-13-09 04:41 PM   #52 
  - Vietnam is doing just fine without us there. nt  Mari333   Nov-13-09 12:56 PM   #3 
  - Oh, yes we can. should have done it sooner in Viet Nam. nt  jasi2006   Nov-13-09 01:21 PM   #8 
  - Here is the video from the Imus show on that - Kerry said nothing that he hasn't said before  karynnj   Nov-13-09 01:22 PM   #9 
  - Yes, it can and it will.  David__77   Nov-13-09 01:27 PM   #11 
  - Pakistan is the new "falling domino". "We have to fight them there, so...."  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-13-09 01:27 PM   #12 
  - Pakistan is the new "falling domino". "We have to fight them there, so...."  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-13-09 01:29 PM   #13 
  - Senator Kerry is not advocating any such thing  ProSense   Nov-13-09 01:48 PM   #14 
  - True and he has made the case that it is Pakistan's own war against  karynnj   Nov-13-09 01:58 PM   #15 
  - Good! Can we then count on him to vote against funding the war?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-13-09 02:00 PM   #16 
     - He has before  ProSense   Nov-13-09 02:14 PM   #21 
        - Just what do you think he's advocating when he says this?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-13-09 02:18 PM   #22 
           - "what we need to do in Pakistan"  ProSense   Nov-13-09 02:22 PM   #25 
           - If you really want to know....  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:07 AM   #75 
  - Considering that John Kerry was on Nixon's enemies list  Hippo_Tron   Nov-13-09 09:15 PM   #65 
  - He's right.. we need to RUN away  walldude   Nov-13-09 02:31 PM   #30 
  - If not now, when?  Major Hogwash   Nov-13-09 02:42 PM   #32 
  - When enough bodies come home and we're too broke to buy boot laces for the troops.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-13-09 02:47 PM   #34 
     - Or when the soldiers stop following orders.  redqueen   Nov-13-09 02:57 PM   #38 
        - I just saw this on Yahoo news.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-13-09 03:34 PM   #48 
  - "I don't think anybody believes that," Senator Kerry, if you only  Fire1   Nov-13-09 03:35 PM   #49 
  - yeah we are really going to be invaded by Pakistan  optimator   Nov-13-09 05:43 PM   #56 
  - There isn't going to be a military victory in Afghanistan. Every day we lose more and more troops.  Selatius   Nov-13-09 06:28 PM   #61 
  - And that's just what Kerry has been saying. People need...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:00 AM   #73 
  - Can't imagine why this guy didn't  Le Taz Hot   Nov-14-09 07:58 AM   #68 
  - I Was One Of Kerry's Biggest Admirers Since Viet Nam... But Now I'm  ChiciB1   Nov-14-09 10:59 AM   #71 
  - But ChiciB1...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:14 AM   #76 
  - Considering that Sen. Kerry has about 20 more years experience on matters such as these  wisteria   Nov-14-09 11:00 AM   #72 
  - Hi, wisteria...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:15 AM   #78 
  - Right, we should RUN AWAY from Afghanistan.  Swamp Rat   Nov-14-09 11:14 AM   #77 
     - You might enjoy this...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:27 AM   #80 
        - Thanks for the link.  Swamp Rat   Nov-14-09 12:20 PM   #82 
           - You are very welcome. I'm impressed that you watched it...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 05:22 PM   #83 

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