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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 05:22 PM
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27. Trying to fire an employee like this can end a manager's career and expose the manager to liability
Terminating an employee in a protected class is very dangerous. Unless the termination done very carefully, with all procedures following the book and carefully documented and corrobarated, an employee in a protected class can easily get the manager fired, as well as bring a lawsuit for damages against the manager. This could end the manager's career and impoverish his family. Higher managers will not protect the manager responsible for terminating the employee, and will hang him out to dry to save their own skin.

I'm really surprised that they had group meetings that discussed this. I'd be appalled if anyone made a written record of them.

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  -Walter Reed Officials Asked: Was Hasan Psychotic? cali  Nov-11-09 04:01 PM   #0 
  - Even more disturbing is this:  JudyInTheHeartland   Nov-11-09 04:08 PM   #1 
  - Ya think?? n/t  Fire1   Nov-11-09 04:25 PM   #7 
  - Look at all the extremist Christians....  AntiFascist   Nov-11-09 04:43 PM   #18 
  - That sounds like total bullshit to me.  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 04:52 PM   #21 
  - so they blame the tedious process for why they did not start the process of discharging him?  dugaresa   Nov-11-09 04:12 PM   #2 
  - and that's it in a nutshell. Disgusting.  cali   Nov-11-09 04:14 PM   #4 
  - it is disgusting and to be honest the information in that article  dugaresa   Nov-11-09 04:21 PM   #5 
     - agreed. and the names of his supervisor's are in the article.  cali   Nov-11-09 04:24 PM   #6 
  - Jeez, you think these guys were a part of the church and no the military.  Arctic Dave   Nov-11-09 04:33 PM   #10 
     - It's insane. This guy was in a position of relative power  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 04:36 PM   #11 
        - I'm betting when his behavior confirmed their suspicions, they transferred him to Ft. Hood  dugaresa   Nov-11-09 04:38 PM   #13 
           - They should all be up on charges, dereliction or whatever it's called. nt  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 04:39 PM   #14 
              - totally agree  dugaresa   Nov-11-09 04:43 PM   #19 
  - If they have to even  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-11-09 04:12 PM   #3 
  - Six years is a long time to screw up that badly.  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 04:29 PM   #8 
  - it is. and his supervisors clearly did not do their jobs.  cali   Nov-11-09 04:30 PM   #9 
  - Yet they promoted the guy  depakid   Nov-11-09 04:38 PM   #12 
  - It appears that for a variety of reasons they just didn't want to deal with him  cali   Nov-11-09 04:40 PM   #15 
     - Fine, but promoting the guy?  depakid   Nov-11-09 04:48 PM   #20 
        - I completely agree.  cali   Nov-11-09 05:07 PM   #23 
        - I just read somewhere that there's a big push to promote guys and  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 05:14 PM   #26 
  - Hasan was a medical doctor. Not as easy to get rid of as an enlisted soldier.  Avalux   Nov-11-09 04:42 PM   #16 
  - It may not be easy but it appears that nothing was done about many, many concerns  cali   Nov-11-09 04:43 PM   #17 
  - Religion played a role  bik0   Nov-11-09 04:57 PM   #22 
  - uh, no.  cali   Nov-11-09 05:09 PM   #24 
  - Not delusional  bik0   Nov-11-09 05:55 PM   #29 
     - Psychosis often shows up as detachment.  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 06:27 PM   #34 
        - The massacre was planned - he did not snap  bik0   Nov-11-09 07:58 PM   #35 
           - All of that may be true although we don't know that it is  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 08:14 PM   #36 
  - Atheists have no special protection from psychosis  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 05:13 PM   #25 
  - Trying to fire an employee like this can end a manager's career and expose the manager to liability  FarCenter   Nov-11-09 05:22 PM   #27 
     - You're talking about the Army, not Sears. The US Army acts with impunity  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 05:25 PM   #28 
        - If an adminstrative separation for psychological unsuitability is so simple  FarCenter   Nov-11-09 05:59 PM   #30 
           - Are you serious? Do you really believe there is any correlation whatsoever  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 06:02 PM   #31 
              - The complexity of the procedure, the considerations required, the approvals, etc. are in the books.  FarCenter   Nov-11-09 06:19 PM   #32 
                 - Two thoughts. I'm sure there are stacks and stacks of books  EFerrari   Nov-11-09 06:23 PM   #33 

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