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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:47 PM
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23. Who said it was a moral argument?
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 02:01 PM by JackRiddler
I don't think anyone here excuses the act.

Mutiny appears to be the correct, neutral term for what he did. It wouldn't surprise me if it's called that at his military trial.

Not every act of mutiny is a good thing. This one wasn't. He had other forms of protest or ways to get himself discharged. Mutiny and murder are not mutually exclusive categories.

One may legitimately ask what stresses he was subjected to. That's an important question even from the army's perspective, as presumably they want to prevent such acts in the future, not merely condemn them after the fact.

One may also ask if he was being groomed for some function in Afghanistan, as apparently the Army was told by an intel agency that he tried to reach out to foreign jihadis, but nevertheless was about to deploy him there.
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