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4. Even worthless misanthropes ,except Shrub, Kkkarl and Dick.
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  -Are all Americans ENTITLED to healthcare? Dreamer Tatum  Nov-09-09 05:00 PM   #0 
  - They should be  Taverner   Nov-09-09 05:01 PM   #1 
  - Some are, and some are not  slackmaster   Nov-09-09 05:03 PM   #2 
  - this is a vote for human decency in a civilized society. Of course they are!  NRaleighLiberal   Nov-09-09 05:03 PM   #3 
  - Even worthless misanthropes ,except Shrub, Kkkarl and Dick.  orpupilofnature57   Nov-09-09 05:03 PM   #4 
  - You all aren't entitled to shit  Oregone   Nov-09-09 05:05 PM   #5 
  - Try some fiber in your diet  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-09-09 05:06 PM   #6 
  - In an ideal America, perhaps, but in the real America, Democrats scoff at idealists  Oregone   Nov-09-09 05:12 PM   #8 
     - Whats the Idea of, no one for president 2012?  orpupilofnature57   Nov-09-09 05:18 PM   #11 
        - Well, its complicated, but when you strip it all away, the world will be over by then anyway  Oregone   Nov-09-09 05:22 PM   #12 
  - Did you read the 3rd post ? it's to you.  orpupilofnature57   Nov-09-09 05:11 PM   #7 
  - +1 n/t  ipaint   Nov-09-09 05:12 PM   #9 
  - Who says god has to give it to you??  Angry Dragon   Nov-09-09 06:16 PM   #16 
  - Man has looked inside himself and done everything from give out free cars to cook jews in ovens  Oregone   Nov-09-09 06:18 PM   #19 
  - Are you always this pleasant or are you just having a bad day??  Angry Dragon   Nov-09-09 06:49 PM   #23 
  - Actually, today is more of a light-hearted one  Oregone   Nov-09-09 06:53 PM   #25 
     - Then my friend  Angry Dragon   Nov-09-09 06:58 PM   #29 
  - "cook jews in ovens". Your attempt to be flip about something like that demonstrates your  KittyWampus   Nov-10-09 09:01 AM   #68 
     - You really need to put such negative people on ignore  Oregone   Nov-10-09 05:32 PM   #85 
  - Thomas Jefferson?  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-10-09 08:27 AM   #65 
     - The Creator may have not been a god  Angry Dragon   Nov-10-09 10:22 AM   #70 
        - Well, without going into a whole religious sidebar discussion.....  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-10-09 10:29 AM   #71 
  - what about people who are not Americans?  bikingaz   Nov-09-09 09:05 PM   #48 
     - If they are sick or injured here: of course.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-09-09 09:59 PM   #52 
        - yes we can - no matter the cost  ronsii   Nov-10-09 09:54 PM   #89 
  - Yes, or at least they should be. nt  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-09-09 05:13 PM   #10 
  - All human beings everywhere are entitled to health care  tularetom   Nov-09-09 05:37 PM   #13 
  - If you are human, you are entitled to health care  meow2u3   Nov-09-09 06:16 PM   #17 
  - Yes, just the same way we are entitled to free speech. nt  anonymous171   Nov-09-09 05:40 PM   #14 
  - How is that different from having the right to free speech?  robinlynne   Nov-09-09 06:49 PM   #24 
  - Why are prisoners entitled to health care?  jtrockville   Nov-09-09 06:08 PM   #15 
  - Because incarceration excludes them from getting jobs (nt)  Nederland   Nov-09-09 07:04 PM   #31 
  - Don't they have jobs in prison (laundry, cooking, etc?)  jtrockville   Nov-09-09 08:48 PM   #45 
     - Not of the kind that offer any economic freedom. Prison wages are almost nothing.  anigbrowl   Nov-09-09 09:04 PM   #47 
        - But they still get healh care, even without economic freedom. Why?  jtrockville   Nov-09-09 11:02 PM   #57 
           - Because they can't earn enough to buy it, isn't it obvious?  anigbrowl   Nov-10-09 12:54 AM   #60 
              - Yes it's obvious, but it has nothing to do with ability to earn money.  jtrockville   Nov-10-09 02:09 PM   #84 
  - eh?  Warren Stupidity   Nov-09-09 10:00 PM   #53 
  - Because they're human beings?  lukasahero   Nov-10-09 08:24 AM   #64 
  - Because not all of them are sentenced to death, maybe?  PVnRT   Nov-10-09 10:31 AM   #72 
  - The founders believed we had an inalienable right to life.  Qutzupalotl   Nov-09-09 06:17 PM   #18 
  - It is not their right  Angry Dragon   Nov-09-09 07:03 PM   #30 
  - Careful with that "right-to-life" crap. Anti-choice folks will jump all over that.  Xenotime   Nov-10-09 10:36 AM   #76 
     - It's not crap.  Qutzupalotl   Nov-10-09 11:32 AM   #83 
  - How much health care and at who's expense?  stray cat   Nov-09-09 06:21 PM   #20 
  - Enough and everyone's. nt.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-09-09 10:01 PM   #54 
     - Agreed.  Xenotime   Nov-10-09 10:38 AM   #77 
  - Currently .... ?  etherealtruth   Nov-09-09 06:39 PM   #21 
  - explain the difference between entitlement and right please.  robinlynne   Nov-09-09 06:49 PM   #22 
  - That's exactly the distinction  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-09-09 06:56 PM   #27 
     - How will it be an entitlement if we can't afford it? Looks like the public option  robinlynne   Nov-09-09 07:15 PM   #35 
  - Until Doctors and Nurses are willing to work for free  Nederland   Nov-09-09 06:56 PM   #26 
  - Even then it wouldn't be a right. nt  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-09-09 06:58 PM   #28 
  - That's not how it works in other countries.  Arugula Latte   Nov-09-09 07:06 PM   #32 
  - In other words...  Nederland   Nov-09-09 07:12 PM   #33 
     - Some people use "right"and "entitlement" interchangeably  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-09-09 07:14 PM   #34 
     - Yes and that is the problem  Nederland   Nov-09-09 07:23 PM   #38 
     - Yep -- and their own, if they're able to work.  Arugula Latte   Nov-09-09 07:16 PM   #36 
     - And what if people can work...  Nederland   Nov-09-09 07:24 PM   #39 
        - They are entitled to survive  Arugula Latte   Nov-09-09 07:29 PM   #40 
           - What about having children?  Nederland   Nov-09-09 07:34 PM   #41 
              - Um, do you think we DON'T have a permanent underclass in our system now?  Arugula Latte   Nov-09-09 07:36 PM   #42 
                 - Yes I do  Nederland   Nov-09-09 07:47 PM   #43 
                    - How do you think Bill Clinton's "welfare reform" worked out?  Arugula Latte   Nov-09-09 07:52 PM   #44 
                    - Clinton's welfare reform worked incredibly well  Nederland   Nov-09-09 09:06 PM   #49 
                       - Restoring some funds to help with higher education would help nt  laughingliberal   Nov-10-09 08:14 AM   #62 
                       - just a minute  newspeak   Nov-10-09 09:46 PM   #88 
                    - Plenty of people on welfare are capable and desiring of work  PVnRT   Nov-10-09 11:02 AM   #81 
     - Except under what you just described  PVnRT   Nov-10-09 10:32 AM   #73 
  - Unlike all those other countries,, including IRAQ, where it IS a right.  bobbolink   Nov-09-09 09:29 PM   #51 
  - I have a right to a speedy trial.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-09-09 10:10 PM   #56 
  - Why would they have to work for free? n/t  donco6   Nov-10-09 08:18 AM   #63 
  - Those doctors and nurses didn't build the schools they went to.  harun   Nov-10-09 10:34 AM   #75 
  - Funny, doctors get paid in all those other countries where people have health care  Raineyb   Nov-10-09 10:54 AM   #79 
  - Not At This Time  NashVegas   Nov-09-09 07:16 PM   #37 
  - Why distinguish?  LWolf   Nov-09-09 08:50 PM   #46 
  - It's not "spin"  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-10-09 12:41 AM   #59 
     - We need laws to define free speech,  LWolf   Nov-10-09 08:03 AM   #61 
        - What do you do for a living? Because whatever you produce, I claim a right to it.  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-10-09 08:58 AM   #67 
           - No one is "demanding" anything for free  PVnRT   Nov-10-09 10:34 AM   #74 
           - Don't be so full of shit, please  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-10-09 10:44 AM   #78 
              - I'm full of shit? You're spending the entire thread arguing semantics instead of substance  PVnRT   Nov-10-09 10:59 AM   #80 
                 - Rights vs entitlements is hardly semantics.  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-10-09 11:07 AM   #82 
           - I teach.  LWolf   Nov-10-09 08:49 PM   #87 
  - I have thought about this a lot.  OnionPatch   Nov-09-09 09:28 PM   #50 
  - But Republicans want us to fight about entitlement and resent each other.  Overseas   Nov-10-09 09:27 AM   #69 
  - Exactly  OnionPatch   Nov-10-09 08:11 PM   #86 
  - We should be treated as well as prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention.  EFerrari   Nov-10-09 09:59 PM   #91 
  - It is our society. We are if we say we are.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-09-09 10:09 PM   #55 
  - Not yet, but we should be.  Iggo   Nov-09-09 11:02 PM   #58 
  - because of innovation, worker shortages and inflation  TheWebHead   Nov-10-09 08:27 AM   #66 
  - Who bestowed this entitlement to health care and when?  bik0   Nov-10-09 09:57 PM   #90 
  - Where does it end?  astral   Nov-10-09 09:59 PM   #92 
  - Look at those percentages !!!  ronsii   Nov-10-09 10:15 PM   #93 
 

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