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Mon Nov-09-09 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 13. Any soldier who is morally opposed to any particular conflict should get a general discharge |
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And be out of the service forever.
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| -American Muslim soldiers -how should they be treated? |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:19 AM |
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The same as any other soldier. Frankly. I'd be more afraid of the batshit crazy fundie |
piratefish08 |
Nov-09-09 09:21 AM |
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Either way, as long as this world continues to fight about who's god has the bigger |
piratefish08 |
Nov-09-09 09:22 AM |
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Any person who is against fighting in the Middle East or any other place should not enlist |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-09 09:23 AM |
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What about those that enlisted before it started? |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:24 AM |
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I mean ANY place - Even a place where there is no conflict right now. |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-09 09:26 AM |
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I understand the ideal, of course. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:32 AM |
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Any soldier who is morally opposed to any particular conflict should get a general discharge |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-09 09:38 AM |
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And is such a thing currently possible? |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:40 AM |
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I don't know how hard it is |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-09 09:43 AM |
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Yes, quite right. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:47 AM |
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The same way as everybody else |
MiniMe |
Nov-09-09 09:26 AM |
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Great and courageous post. Hard questions, but these must be asked. |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-09-09 09:27 AM |
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Thanks. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:34 AM |
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During WWII my FIL was given a choice |
eleny |
Nov-09-09 09:28 AM |
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My great, great uncles didn't want to serve in WW1 because they were from there. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:31 AM |
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My grandfather was sentenced to life in prison because his CO status for WWI was denied |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-09 09:41 AM |
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Wow. And did this affect your decision to join in any way? |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:42 AM |
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It affected my religious beliefs. I am a third-generation Agnostic. |
slackmaster |
Nov-09-09 09:44 AM |
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If Muslim soldiers come forward requesting to leave the military, |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-09-09 09:36 AM |
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They should be treated exactly like any other soldier... |
hayu_lol |
Nov-09-09 09:49 AM |
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They should be--except when there are signs of trouble, as in Hasan's case. |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-09-09 09:59 AM |
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No, I don't think that's the answer. |
cali |
Nov-09-09 09:43 AM |
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"Don't join if you're conflicted" |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:44 AM |
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As someone pointed out upthread, the mideast has been a possible war zone |
cali |
Nov-09-09 09:50 AM |
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Responding... |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:54 AM |
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What?? You think that an Italian American who was morally opposed |
cali |
Nov-09-09 09:57 AM |
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Well, the Japanese were marched off to internment camps because of distrust. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:02 AM |
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as long as there is no draft , no one is forced to join. |
cali |
Nov-09-09 10:19 AM |
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I have no such assumption. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:24 AM |
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say what? devout Muslims kill other Muslims day in and day out |
cali |
Nov-09-09 02:40 PM |
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And others develop dangerous viewpoints AFTER enlistment, and they should be found, dealt with. |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-09-09 09:58 AM |
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And still others who may enlist PRECISELY because they want to stir shit.... |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-09-09 10:00 AM |
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That's absurd. |
Codeine |
Nov-09-09 09:44 AM |
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Agreed. But... |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 09:46 AM |
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I'd be open to that |
Codeine |
Nov-09-09 09:49 AM |
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The Military Should Provide Sensitivity Training and Kick Out Bigots |
EndersDame |
Nov-09-09 09:58 AM |
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The crux of this thread appears to be ONE misguided Shrink... |
hayu_lol |
Nov-09-09 10:14 AM |
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I did not realize one could simply resign in his position. That changes everything if true. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:17 AM |
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I believe that's true but then he would have had to pay back the hundreds of thousands |
cali |
Nov-09-09 10:20 AM |
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I understood that he offered to do so. nt |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:21 AM |
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You can resign your commission, but I'm sure there are limiting factors to that. |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-09-09 10:30 AM |
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There is nothing anywhere that I have found to date... |
hayu_lol |
Nov-09-09 10:59 AM |
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Hmmm |
montanto |
Nov-09-09 10:06 AM |
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Absurd |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Nov-09-09 10:06 AM |
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Tell the dead soldiers and their families how insulting my post was. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:10 AM |
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What is your point? |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Nov-09-09 10:20 AM |
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He was not a terrorist. |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:31 AM |
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They are soldiers. They should go where they are sent and obey orders. |
Glorfindel |
Nov-09-09 10:10 AM |
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"To say that muslims must be treated "differently" is absurd." |
Bonobo |
Nov-09-09 10:12 AM |
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Equally |
MattNC |
Nov-09-09 10:15 AM |
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Sensitivity is a good idea. There is a horrible lack of understanding on our part. |
Xenotime |
Nov-09-09 10:19 AM |
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I don't see it this way....... |
trayfoot |
Nov-09-09 10:22 AM |
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Separation of Church and State. |
uppityperson |
Nov-09-09 02:52 PM |
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