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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:07 AM
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27. Because all but a few of our leaders are venal cowards.
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  -Why are religious leaders being allowed to dictate what will be in legislation? Are_grits_groceries  Nov-09-09 04:27 AM   #0 
  - Thank you.  Lindsay   Nov-09-09 04:32 AM   #1 
  - My hair is on fire.  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 04:40 AM   #4 
        - erm you do know the catholic church is not some type of democracy  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:16 AM   #11 
           - Then the shouldn't bloody  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:21 AM   #14 
           - yeah because the politicians who look to them for advice are not savvy enouigh  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:24 AM   #16 
           - MEH!  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:31 AM   #20 
              - why wouldnt you look to the bishops if you are a catholic politicians  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:33 AM   #21 
                 - Look to them until  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:48 AM   #24 
           - There are 3 kinds of Catholics  Craftsman   Nov-09-09 05:27 AM   #17 
              - yup this point gets lost on a lot of people.....  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:28 AM   #19 
              - Are you seriously suggesting  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:44 AM   #23 
                 - Not to mention that Catholics  MattBaggins   Nov-09-09 08:33 AM   #38 
              - don't forget the cafeteria Catholics...  Ineeda   Nov-09-09 06:05 AM   #26 
                 - Those are covered in the first 2  Craftsman   Nov-09-09 07:35 AM   #32 
           - Let them leave then  MattBaggins   Nov-09-09 08:29 AM   #37 
  - One Nation Under God And On Our Money! And an illusory separation of Church & State.  bluetrain   Nov-09-09 04:36 AM   #2 
  - They and their followers have votes and money  Craftsman   Nov-09-09 04:40 AM   #3 
  - very succint and matter of factual, theres a lot of votes to lose if you force people to choose  vadawg   Nov-09-09 04:47 AM   #5 
  - I note that when many Catholics have to pick religion or  Bluenorthwest   Nov-09-09 08:11 AM   #35 
  - That is a specious argument.  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 04:56 AM   #7 
  - well obviously the politicians disagree with you  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:06 AM   #8 
     - See post # 9.  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:18 AM   #12 
        - erm you do realise that it dosent matter what you say, the politicians must have looked at the numbe  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:21 AM   #13 
           - That whooshing noise that you heard  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:23 AM   #15 
              - whoosh yourself, you do realise that there is a difference between a cultural catholic  vadawg   Nov-09-09 05:27 AM   #18 
                 - Whoosh again!  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 05:38 AM   #22 
                 - the church is not a democracy  MattBaggins   Nov-09-09 08:40 AM   #39 
  - It's not their votes that hurt us. Catholic voters are largely open-minded.  Lyric   Nov-09-09 06:44 AM   #29 
  - I am waiting for the day when the DSM-IV acknowledges magical thinking as a serious mental disorder  bluetrain   Nov-09-09 04:47 AM   #6 
  - Because the United States that used to be is slowly going down the drain. Maybe it is time  still_one   Nov-09-09 05:13 AM   #10 
  - ATTENTION! ATTENTION!  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 06:02 AM   #25 
  - You are exactly and 100% correct.  Ineeda   Nov-09-09 06:13 AM   #28 
  - Because all but a few of our leaders are venal cowards.  Vidar   Nov-09-09 06:07 AM   #27 
  - Your elected officials are making the decision - they make legislation  stray cat   Nov-09-09 07:09 AM   #30 
  - The elected officials  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 07:19 AM   #31 
  - Thanks for posting the results of the poll.  olegramps   Nov-09-09 07:51 AM   #33 
  - Tax them, NOW!  Odin2005   Nov-09-09 07:59 AM   #34 
  - Religion IS Politics...  KharmaTrain   Nov-09-09 08:26 AM   #36 
  - That doesn't mean  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 08:42 AM   #40 
     - You Are Very Right...  KharmaTrain   Nov-09-09 08:49 AM   #42 
  - So let me get this straight....  Tommy_Carcetti   Nov-09-09 08:49 AM   #41 
  - Single issue voters..have ruined a lot of good legislation  Tippy   Nov-09-09 09:28 AM   #44 
  - So you are happy that  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-09-09 09:55 AM   #46 
     - Look...Many Church Groups or different religions if you will  Tippy   Nov-09-09 10:59 AM   #47 
     - Nothing had to be approved by the US Catholic Bishops.  Tommy_Carcetti   Nov-09-09 11:01 AM   #48 
  - I am very intolerant of a church  Angry Dragon   Nov-09-09 09:45 AM   #45 
  - Obama continues to 'bless' input from religious entities in expanding faith-based initiatives.  closeupready   Nov-09-09 08:51 AM   #43 
  - Fine if they want a voice, tax them.  bamacrat   Nov-09-09 11:04 AM   #49 
  - because there are too many religiously insane in the Senate and House  ensho   Nov-09-09 11:04 AM   #50 
  - If you oppose the secular state, stay the fuck home...  BolivarianHero   Nov-09-09 11:05 AM   #51 
  - Because within the structure of our phony rep democracy, there are very real strains of theocracy  Echo In Light   Nov-09-09 11:06 AM   #52 
  - kicking back to pg. 1  ensho   Nov-09-09 11:49 AM   #53 
  - Are there not still faith based offices in all of the departments?  Mithreal   Nov-09-09 07:23 PM   #54 

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