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Sun Nov-08-09 01:48 PM
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| 36. The rabid right has controlled the terms of debate... |
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...for so long that people are unaware of it and adopt their thinking.
First they accept the "partial birth abortion" terminology. The fact that 99% of such procedures are done when the woman's life is in imminent danger is simply ignored and emotion rules the day.
Second they accept that the right to privacy -- the basis of Roe v Wade -- does not apply to abortions, because after all, it's a baby we're talking about. So we stop talking about the woman altogether, she is merely a vessel for the baby, who is viewed as whole, and cooing, and innocent and cute as a button -- and utterly defenseless against the evil harlot who wants to kill it.
Third they actually believe that they have the right to stick their noses into the most private decision a woman can make, because they want to impose their own morality on us.
Just for the record, I have a deep belief that women have the right to abortion if that is what they choose. It is part of my own spiritual thinking; therefore, it is just as protected as any belief the damned Christo-fascists have.
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| -So where did the wave of anti-choicers come from? |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-08-09 11:49 AM |
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Same place all the other anti-Democratic bullshit comes FROM |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-08-09 11:52 AM |
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Yet they all seem |
Cherchez la Femme |
Nov-08-09 06:35 PM |
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It's only fun to say that they are Hillary's best friends.. not Barack's. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Nov-09-09 07:33 PM |
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It's unreal. And sad. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-08-09 11:53 AM |
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C Street - the Cedars |
Sinti |
Nov-08-09 11:55 AM |
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beats the hell out of me. and surprises and dismays me. |
cali |
Nov-08-09 11:55 AM |
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K&R I am being accused of being "tricky" and trying to "piss people off" just for asking. |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-08-09 11:56 AM |
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Maybe some don't recall what it was like prior to Roe v. Wade? |
Hepburn |
Nov-08-09 11:59 AM |
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I haven't seen it |
Enrique |
Nov-08-09 12:06 PM |
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DU is infested with misogynists. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-08-09 12:07 PM |
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Where did your quotes come from? |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 12:08 PM |
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That's exactly what I'd like to know. n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-08-09 12:18 PM |
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After waiting an hour for the answer it's now clear.. They're ass-quotes. nt |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 01:09 PM |
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Your dumb question didn't seem to warrant a response, but since you persist |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-08-09 01:18 PM |
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Your fake quote problem is a big problem. |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 01:22 PM |
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A "straw man" readily visible as real to most people in this thread |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-08-09 01:38 PM |
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Keep digging. |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 01:46 PM |
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Here Is A Direct Quote From last Night, Sir, Copied And Pasted |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 01:51 PM |
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Thanks, why was that so hard for the OP whom I posed the question? |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 03:27 PM |
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boy, that's an old and tired quote - straight from the anti-choice crowd |
tigereye |
Nov-09-09 08:26 PM |
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And Another Item, Sir.... |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 03:14 PM |
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That post isn't a quote, it's a third party report of something someone said to someone else. |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 03:28 PM |
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Lower In The Thread, Sir, You Will Find a Link To The Post Quoted |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 03:30 PM |
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Got it, still one person's opinion is not the same as general DU support. |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 03:32 PM |
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Let Me Be Blunt, Sir: There Was a Good Deal Of This Sort Of Swill Posted Last Night |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 03:38 PM |
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Opinions are fine, broad brush accusations are not. |
tridim |
Nov-08-09 03:48 PM |
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I know we have had our differences, but I wanted to say thank you. |
uppityperson |
Nov-08-09 08:10 PM |
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Here's another person's opinion... |
snake in the grass |
Nov-09-09 04:18 AM |
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So, you support this bill which just threw |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-09-09 02:10 AM |
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The anti-women rhetoric on DU is real. |
Mithreal |
Nov-09-09 03:16 AM |
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Women are second-class citizens everywhere. |
Brickbat |
Nov-08-09 12:09 PM |
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It's NOT the progressives |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-08-09 12:13 PM |
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*Shrug* |
Brickbat |
Nov-08-09 12:23 PM |
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I'll cut you some slack because you're new. |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-08-09 12:33 PM |
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I know, I've seen it. |
Brickbat |
Nov-08-09 01:33 PM |
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More like the Party faithless (since they have no faith in ACTUAL democracy) |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-08-09 01:40 PM |
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There are a lot of folks who believe 'your body, your choice' is not good(nt) |
The Straight Story |
Nov-08-09 12:10 PM |
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It IS a trip. |
chill_wind |
Nov-08-09 12:11 PM |
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That's it - it's more rationalizing than being anti-choice ( I hope). Some folks gotta believe in |
chimpymustgo |
Nov-08-09 01:20 PM |
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When they shoved out and tag-teamed all of the progressives |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-08-09 12:13 PM |
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+1 |
donco6 |
Nov-08-09 12:17 PM |
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st ill making shit up and whining, I see. |
cali |
Nov-08-09 12:35 PM |
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And here is one of the most vile offenders now |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-08-09 01:20 PM |
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wait a minute, I thought I was supposed to me anti-choic e |
cali |
Nov-08-09 01:38 PM |
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Actually, Ma'am, Most Of The People 'Purged' In Primary Season Were Centerist Types |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 02:24 PM |
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Not talking about the Hillary purge, Sir |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-08-09 08:04 PM |
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To Put It Bluntly, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 09:22 PM |
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So advancing Democratic candidates at the expense of Democratic principles |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-08-09 09:39 PM |
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What Does That Mean, Exactly, Ma'am? |
The Magistrate |
Nov-09-09 12:47 AM |
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I'm talking about well-defined platform issues, Sir, not wedges |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-09-09 12:54 AM |
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I laughed my ass off when that crowd of so-called "progressives" got their well-deserved |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-09-09 08:06 PM |
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A little of both. |
Starry Messenger |
Nov-08-09 12:14 PM |
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K&R. |
Greyhound |
Nov-08-09 12:15 PM |
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An undercurrent of contempt for women and women's issues is still as American as apple pie... |
left coaster |
Nov-08-09 12:19 PM |
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My sig line |
Cherchez la Femme |
Nov-08-09 06:47 PM |
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this is same kinda argument repugs used with war. no to war, you want to allow terrorist to murder |
seabeyond |
Nov-08-09 12:42 PM |
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Funny that you assume I am talking about you |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-08-09 12:58 PM |
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funny you would assume i assume. i, in no way, thought you were talking about me |
seabeyond |
Nov-08-09 01:15 PM |
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Do you firmly believe and stand behind 'your body, your choice?' |
The Straight Story |
Nov-08-09 02:26 PM |
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The rabid right has controlled the terms of debate... |
ljm2002 |
Nov-08-09 01:48 PM |
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Good question. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-08-09 03:28 PM |
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They showed up during the primaries in enormous numbers and drove many of the real progressives |
bluetrain |
Nov-08-09 09:45 PM |
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Bingo. n/t |
QC |
Nov-09-09 07:42 PM |
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Bull. Fucking. Shit. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-09-09 07:52 PM |
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Its from the same people that oppose Single Payer. They are just being consistent (right-wing). |
New Dawn |
Nov-09-09 12:51 AM |
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They rode Obama's coattails into DU and the Democatic Party. |
tekisui |
Nov-09-09 07:39 PM |
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I see many DUers saying a flawed bill is better than no bill |
ecstatic |
Nov-09-09 07:52 PM |
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Got a link to these supposed "quotes"? Or is this just more whiny asshattery? |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-09-09 07:53 PM |
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Read the thread, quotes have already been posted. n/t |
Fumesucker |
Nov-09-09 08:04 PM |
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Where? Repost them here, genius. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-09-09 08:07 PM |
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WOW, that is SOME comment in your profile. |
BeHereNow |
Nov-09-09 08:12 PM |
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And it is heartfelt, trust me. I always thought right-wingers were the biggest pricks on the planet, |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-09-09 08:22 PM |
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they have been here disguised as merely anti gay |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-09-09 08:11 PM |
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