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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 04:56 AM
Response to Reply #102
115. Forced sterilization
wasnt that a program back in the 1930s
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  -I don't want to pay for "elective abortions". PeaceNikki  Nov-08-09 09:42 AM   #0 
  - It's not at all about the money.  Heidi   Nov-08-09 09:43 AM   #1 
  - Tell it like it is!  theHandpuppet   Nov-08-09 09:45 AM   #2 
  - I don't want to pay for wars. I don't want to pay for bombs. I don't want to pay for torture.  Electric Monk   Nov-08-09 09:46 AM   #3 
  - Restricting $$ for safe legal abortion creates $$$$$$$costs for emergencies resulting from  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-08-09 12:07 PM   #39 
  - You're not going to win against the religious zealots with 'facts & figures.'  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-08-09 04:16 PM   #68 
  - my apologies, Electric Monk  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-08-09 02:23 PM   #49 
  - mandate contraception coverage? absolutely yes nt  msongs   Nov-08-09 09:47 AM   # 
  - There are no laws on abortion here.  PDJane   Nov-08-09 09:47 AM   #4 
  - I know. I QUITE often refer to an article written by one of my favorite authors:  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #9 
  - The reason abortion rates have dropped HERE is because of accessibility  Horse with no Name   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #10 
  - One wonders if many people of that mind are OK with paying for the wars  havocmom   Nov-08-09 09:47 AM   #5 
  - That is EXACTLY it  Horse with no Name   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #6 
  - Well I don't want to pay for cancer treatment. Can we exclude my tax dollars  beyurslf   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #7 
  - This is also a fear.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 09:49 AM   #14 
     - Another great example. Disease from choices in lifestyle.  beyurslf   Nov-08-09 11:27 AM   #37 
  - Good Question.. Real Good Answer -  solara   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #8 
  - I don't want to pay for bombing brown people either.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #11 
  - It's not really about that, though.  liberalmuse   Nov-08-09 09:48 AM   #12 
  - That's my point. I think there's some deliberate dishonesty.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 09:50 AM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-08-09 04:38 PM   #74 
  - Anyone who utters that phrase is clueless.  Starry Messenger   Nov-08-09 09:49 AM   #13 
  - The problem is that many Dems are actually righties ..  ananda   Nov-08-09 09:50 AM   #15 
  - And we need to be cautious of Trojan Donkeys like the DFLA  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 09:51 AM   #18 
  - I think all of those should volunteer as a handholder at planned parenthood at a get a real picture  EndersDame   Nov-08-09 09:51 AM   #17 
  - The question is does the bill fail at the expense of paying for elective abortions?  stray cat   Nov-08-09 09:51 AM   #19 
  - I get that.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 09:53 AM   #20 
  - Exactly right  Egnever   Nov-08-09 05:19 PM   #100 
  - It's not about money. It's not about lives. It's about power, asserting power over others to force  patrice   Nov-08-09 09:55 AM   #21 
  - It's isn't just the "religious right" who oppose abortion  tonysam   Nov-08-09 09:55 AM   #22 
  - Oh, don't be fooled. Those people who want to impose their beliefs ARE the religious right  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 09:58 AM   #23 
  - Nope. Most Catholics aren't religious rightists  tonysam   Nov-08-09 02:12 PM   #46 
  - They can believe whatever they want and so can I. It's none of their fucking business.  Ineeda   Nov-08-09 10:48 AM   #29 
  - So imposing your fantasies on the rest of the world through law, the enforcement of which  Greyhound   Nov-08-09 12:21 PM   #41 
  - I am solidly liberal and NOT Catholic, atheist if anything. I am just stating political reality  tonysam   Nov-08-09 02:16 PM   #48 
  - I hate to break it to you, but many Catholic leaders have joined the religious right  Hippo_Tron   Nov-08-09 04:02 PM   #62 
     - The leaders have  dflprincess   Nov-09-09 12:15 AM   #113 
  - K/R  Solly Mack   Nov-08-09 10:01 AM   #24 
  - Kicking to see if any of the 'I don't want to pay for "elective abortions"' crowd will respond.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 10:09 AM   #25 
  - simply the phrase "elective abortions"  Ineeda   Nov-08-09 10:15 AM   #26 
  - Absolutely.  left coaster   Nov-08-09 10:30 AM   #27 
  - Yes. This is why I put it in quotation marks.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 10:37 AM   #28 
  - +1  otohara   Nov-08-09 11:18 AM   #36 
  - There powerful stories behind each decision.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 11:30 AM   #38 
  - Oh, my....  Hepburn   Nov-08-09 05:08 PM   #88 
     - Thanks.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 05:18 PM   #97 
  - Don't hear much about "elective gallbladder surgery"  JerseygirlCT   Nov-08-09 04:01 PM   #61 
  - Is vasectomy going to be covered?  TicketyBoo   Nov-08-09 05:13 PM   #92 
  - Definition of "elective abortion"  lolly   Nov-08-09 05:07 PM   #87 
  - Ever read this?  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 05:17 PM   #96 
  - Even necessary procedures can also be elective...  colinmom71   Nov-09-09 07:49 AM   #122 
     - Thank you for explaining that so very well.  PeaceNikki   Nov-09-09 08:05 AM   #123 
  - And I don't want to pay for their viagra  gaspee   Nov-08-09 10:55 AM   #30 
  - And I don't want to pay for their viagra  gaspee   Nov-08-09 10:55 AM   #31 
  - From what I've read this morning....  Neecy   Nov-08-09 10:57 AM   #32 
  - I stand with you and I am also not "ok with" civil rights being used as a political bargaining chip.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 10:58 AM   #33 
  - I know how to stop that just  Bitwit1234   Nov-08-09 10:59 AM   #34 
  - I thought the right didn't want the government involved in health care decisions?  seemunkee   Nov-08-09 11:01 AM   #35 
  - K and effing R  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-08-09 12:13 PM   #40 
  - I hope not.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 12:45 PM   #42 
     - actually, one did!  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-08-09 01:52 PM   #43 
        - I think that person was actually saying that in opposition of Stupak.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 02:03 PM   #44 
           - ohhhhh  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-08-09 02:16 PM   #47 
  - It's not ok  ismnotwasm   Nov-08-09 02:10 PM   #45 
  - This is it exactly.  me b zola   Nov-08-09 02:26 PM   #50 
  - I was glad it passed, too.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 02:56 PM   #51 
  - I think it's important to punish women for their foolish choices  Generator   Nov-08-09 02:59 PM   #52 
  - That's the real story, isn't it?  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 03:50 PM   #53 
  - Great OP....  Hepburn   Nov-08-09 03:51 PM   #54 
  - I don't think anyones ever gone broke from getting an abortion. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-08-09 03:54 PM   #55 
  - It's restricting access.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 03:56 PM   #56 
  - +1  treestar   Nov-08-09 03:58 PM   #59 
  - Blame the DFLA and Stupak.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 03:59 PM   #60 
     - There's always somebody  treestar   Nov-08-09 04:47 PM   #76 
  - A lot of women don't have a credit card, or the money for an abortion.  LeftyMom   Nov-08-09 04:36 PM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-08-09 04:42 PM   #75 
  - Aren't you cute?  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 04:49 PM   #78 
  - Uh, yeah and so I take it you are for the health care bill?  treestar   Nov-08-09 04:53 PM   #82 
  - Go. Fuck. Yourself.  LeftyMom   Nov-08-09 05:03 PM   #84 
  - Yeah, this is what I meant by "Aren't you cute?"  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 05:07 PM   #86 
  - Enjoying your pizza, Asshole?  Hepburn   Nov-08-09 05:14 PM   #93 
  - But without health care, these same women wouldn't have health care  treestar   Nov-08-09 04:47 PM   #77 
     - What makes you assume that?  LeftyMom   Nov-08-09 05:04 PM   #85 
     - So much better to bleed to death from a back street abortion, right?  Hepburn   Nov-08-09 05:15 PM   #94 
        - Oh *my logic* is fucked up? I couldn't afford to pay for a major surgery but it doesn't mean I'm  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-09-09 07:35 AM   #117 
  - Let me put this politely, OK?  Hepburn   Nov-08-09 05:12 PM   #90 
  - Exactly.  TicketyBoo   Nov-08-09 05:18 PM   #99 
  - I make less than 1000 dollars a month and am trying to get into school  EndersDame   Nov-08-09 08:43 PM   #107 
  - Your privilege is showing.  Daemonaquila   Nov-08-09 11:58 PM   #111 
  - Did you even know there is a network of volunteers in our state of Georgia...  colinmom71   Nov-09-09 08:05 AM   #124 
  - It's such a wedge issue  treestar   Nov-08-09 03:56 PM   #57 
  - I agree that it's a wedge issue. And we are allowing Stupak and the DFLA to chip away at access.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 03:58 PM   #58 
     - BECAUSE... Like I said....  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-08-09 04:14 PM   #65 
        - Ah... the fact that you think restricting access is "small potatoes" sums up how important the issue  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 04:15 PM   #67 
        - If you can pay out of your own pocket with private money, then explain to me what the problem is.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-08-09 04:17 PM   #69 
        - You're not REALLY trying to understand.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 04:19 PM   #70 
           - How am I trying to restrict access?  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-08-09 04:29 PM   #72 
           - Access is no more restricted than it already is.  treestar   Nov-08-09 04:52 PM   #80 
              - If HCR passes with Stupak, it will be.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 04:54 PM   #83 
                 - "Honest discussion  TicketyBoo   Nov-08-09 05:24 PM   #101 
                    - I don't want *MY* tax dollars paying the salaries of people in congress.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-08-09 06:08 PM   #104 
                       - Well, good luck with that.  TicketyBoo   Nov-08-09 06:15 PM   #105 
                          - Can I choose deportation instead?  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-09-09 07:26 AM   #116 
        - It is, though  treestar   Nov-08-09 04:51 PM   #79 
           - To be clear, I have not supported killing HCR because of Stupak.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 04:53 PM   #81 
        - Ummmmm....  Hepburn   Nov-08-09 05:18 PM   #98 
  - I think Toby Ziegler said it best  Hippo_Tron   Nov-08-09 04:06 PM   #63 
  - Great! n/t  peace13   Nov-08-09 04:09 PM   #64 
  - Hell, I wouldn't mind paying for a few retroactive ones  Stevenmarc   Nov-08-09 04:15 PM   #66 
  - On "elective abortions"  Marlana   Nov-08-09 04:25 PM   #71 
  - Yes, "elective abortions" are in the eye of the beholder.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 05:08 PM   #89 
  - I had to have a D&E farther along for similar reasons.  LeftyMom   Nov-08-09 05:16 PM   #95 
  - These are the same damn people who..  butterfly77   Nov-08-09 05:13 PM   #91 
  - Limit the Men from having babies from unwed mothers. If you want to limit womens choses than you  southernyankeebelle   Nov-08-09 05:30 PM   #102 
  - Forced sterilization  Thothmes   Nov-09-09 04:56 AM   #115 
  - I don't want to pay for elective wars either.  L0oniX   Nov-08-09 05:34 PM   #103 
  - I don't believe abortions should be used as a means of birth control.  harun   Nov-08-09 08:40 PM   #106 
  - Well, fuck... I guess I should cancel my monthly abortion on your account.  PeaceNikki   Nov-08-09 08:43 PM   #108 
  - This happens how often?  donheld   Nov-08-09 09:13 PM   #109 
  - Then don't have any abortions as a means of birth control.  Sparkly   Nov-09-09 12:07 AM   #112 
  - He doesn't have a uterus so his opinion is moot.  tekisui   Nov-09-09 07:38 AM   #120 
  - Rightwing talking point, nice.  Mithreal   Nov-09-09 03:26 AM   #114 
  - Check profile...male. Not surprised.  tekisui   Nov-09-09 07:38 AM   #119 
  - Don't like abortions ~~ don't have one....  Hepburn   Nov-09-09 08:11 AM   #125 
  - I don't want to pay for elective Viagra.  KamaAina   Nov-08-09 09:17 PM   #110 
  - DUers who say that are sexist assholes.  tekisui   Nov-09-09 07:36 AM   #118 
  - Agreed.  PeaceNikki   Nov-09-09 03:29 PM   #126 
  - K&R n/t  Dogtown   Nov-09-09 07:40 AM   #121 
 

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