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Sun Nov-08-09 09:47 AM
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| 32. One idea that I like (heard the other day) but it is not a total plan is... |
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lower medicare age to 55. That way, folks who are eligible to retire but cannot do so because they would lose employer health care could retire and free up their jobs for others.
That makes sense to me BUT it is only one element not an entire plan.
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| -For those of you who do not like the House bill and cannot support it at all, what is your plan? |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 07:51 AM |
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*Crickets* |
Motown_Johnny |
Nov-08-09 07:56 AM |
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i'm concerned what will happen if it's watered down further in the Senate. |
endless october |
Nov-08-09 08:05 AM |
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How about we dump "reform" and rebrand the bill and create new regulations and a social program |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 11:58 AM |
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A plan that will work ! |
Uben |
Nov-08-09 07:56 AM |
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Shhh...You'll Be Called Names... |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-08-09 08:01 AM |
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Only one problem with your thesis on this. |
mmonk |
Nov-08-09 08:41 AM |
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Has It Ever Been Balanced? |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-08-09 08:44 AM |
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Whenever anything progressive gets passed |
mmonk |
Nov-08-09 08:58 AM |
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if you think that passing this garbage is going to help dems in 2010 |
ixion |
Nov-08-09 08:02 AM |
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Yep. This one will motivate the RW and those on the left |
havocmom |
Nov-08-09 10:00 AM |
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You really think we'll get the same bill they passed through tonight? |
aSpeckofDust |
Nov-08-09 08:03 AM |
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hear hear!! |
tomm2thumbs |
Nov-08-09 08:03 AM |
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my plan is to never vote for another democratic candidate. |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-08-09 08:04 AM |
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aww, poor little thing didn't get everything you wanted |
WI_DEM |
Nov-08-09 08:07 AM |
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actually, i have all i need- i wanted more for others. |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-08-09 08:30 AM |
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good |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 09:28 AM |
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A lot of Democrats had that plan in 1968... |
Yellow Horse |
Nov-08-09 11:27 AM |
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there plan is single payer which would be wonderful but it can't pass |
WI_DEM |
Nov-08-09 08:06 AM |
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Help people like Marcy Winograd get elected. |
mmonk |
Nov-08-09 08:06 AM |
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I'm Adding This To My List... |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-08-09 09:03 AM |
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It's the only way as I see it. Change a few players in your favor. |
mmonk |
Nov-08-09 09:13 AM |
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Let's See What Happens In Reconciliation... |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-08-09 09:22 AM |
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Easy |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Nov-08-09 08:08 AM |
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Fine, I would love single payer-I personally think it is the best option but you still need 218 and |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 08:17 AM |
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Single Payer, Democrats get a brain and a backbone to go with it. Fuck the Republicans. |
imdjh |
Nov-08-09 08:31 AM |
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The O/P asked how the Dems will get the votes for an alternative |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 09:27 AM |
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Here's my plan. Vote issues not party. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 09:04 AM |
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Same here. |
Individualist |
Nov-08-09 09:56 AM |
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What makes the successful European plans work |
woo me with science |
Nov-08-09 09:17 AM |
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To get that you will need campaign finance reform and the Supreme Court will not hear of it. |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 09:25 AM |
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Start over with a single-payer or national health plan that |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-08-09 09:23 AM |
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Obama never campaigned on national health care. His campaign never endorsed single payer despite |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 09:27 AM |
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So, better late than never |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-08-09 05:20 PM |
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+10. |
kath |
Nov-08-09 11:13 AM |
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You wont get an answer |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 09:25 AM |
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here is my answer: |
placton |
Nov-08-09 09:30 AM |
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Cant wait until "12. Besides IMHO Pres Obama isnt the problem here. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-08-09 11:32 AM |
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Too late now for my plan ...... |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-08-09 09:32 AM |
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Not necessarily |
treestar |
Nov-08-09 05:40 PM |
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Or not |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-08-09 05:51 PM |
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One idea that I like (heard the other day) but it is not a total plan is... |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 09:47 AM |
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Oh a similar idea is in there that takes effect immediately. |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 11:01 AM |
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NO bill and just keep the status quo |
stray cat |
Nov-08-09 09:49 AM |
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My plan involves never again compromising my vote |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-08-09 09:49 AM |
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so who could you have elected that would change the outcome with your vote? |
stray cat |
Nov-08-09 09:49 AM |
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So who gets your vote? Cynthia McKinney? That campaign was a smashing |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 09:54 AM |
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Nov-08-09 10:19 AM |
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Nov-08-09 10:21 AM |
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Are you claiming that they are not bigoted? Because in no way |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-08-09 11:49 AM |
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I'm right there with you. |
bluetrain |
Nov-08-09 09:35 PM |
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You may as well have asked Republicans why they sat on their hands for 12 years |
DainBramaged |
Nov-08-09 09:52 AM |
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A real option open to all Americans at rates that... |
TCJ70 |
Nov-08-09 09:52 AM |
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SPHC or nothing. |
L0oniX |
Nov-08-09 10:01 AM |
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I'll go with Nikki Stone1's plan |
FlyingSquirrel |
Nov-08-09 10:54 AM |
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To stop my support for this party, |
MadHound |
Nov-08-09 11:04 AM |
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+1 |
kath |
Nov-08-09 11:19 AM |
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Yes, let's get rid of Reps. Weiner and Grayson. They voted for it. |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 11:38 AM |
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Move up the timetable to first in line public campaign financing to get RID of the corrupt crooks! |
cascadiance |
Nov-08-09 11:06 AM |
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the "plan" is HR 676, medicare for all.... |
mike_c |
Nov-08-09 11:18 AM |
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Same thing with the nutjobs who want hand-counted paper ballots & shut down election reform... |
Yellow Horse |
Nov-08-09 11:20 AM |
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Hard to be ecstatic about passing a bill by 3 votes that 80% of America was demanding. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-08-09 11:30 AM |
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"80 percent" (most people anyway) are demanding single-payer or a public option... |
JackRiddler |
Nov-08-09 11:43 AM |
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Not hard to understand at all. I agree with you. My point is that the House had to struggle to |
rhett o rick |
Nov-08-09 09:33 PM |
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My plan? |
Cleita |
Nov-08-09 11:31 AM |
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HR 676, but you don't need an alternative to point out that the current bill is bad. |
JackRiddler |
Nov-08-09 11:40 AM |
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How? |
ncteechur |
Nov-08-09 11:44 AM |
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See here |
JackRiddler |
Nov-08-09 11:49 AM |
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"The Plan" has been blocked by leadership for two years. |
Greyhound |
Nov-08-09 11:44 AM |
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Absolutely agree! |
jtrockville |
Nov-08-09 12:36 PM |
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i don't |
mstinamotorcity |
Nov-08-09 05:56 PM |
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It is ridiculous to argue about a bill that will never be passed. This bill will not survive the |
rhett o rick |
Nov-08-09 09:31 PM |
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The purists belong to the Party of No. |
geek tragedy |
Nov-08-09 09:34 PM |
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This is the RESCUE of the private insurance system - it is on the verge of collapse |
debbierlus |
Nov-08-09 09:47 PM |
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