Jane Austin
(1000+ posts)
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:44 AM
Response to Original message |
| 47. If he really said that, |  |
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He's saying the same thing as Joe Lie-berman.
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Is Kucinich willing to go without health insurance? |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:29 AM |
#0 |

Good point. nt |
Hekate |
Nov-08-09 02:33 AM |
#1 |
 
Thank you. nt |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:59 AM |
#40 |

No - He Said He Would Not Be A Sell Out To DLCers, Blue Dog Dems, And Republicans |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:34 AM |
#2 |
 
He voted with the sellout Blue Dog Dems and Republicans. n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-08-09 02:35 AM |
#5 |
  
Yes - They Would Not Vote For The Bill Anyway - False Equivalence |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:36 AM |
#8 |
 
He said that no reform would be better than the reform on the table. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:35 AM |
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The Bill Passed Is Not Much In The Way Of Reform - Go Read The Democratic Party Platform |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:37 AM |
#10 |
 
There is a difference between even "not much" and "nothing". |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:47 AM |
#29 |
 
Dennis was playing cards with Lieberman's deck tonight. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:37 AM |
#9 |
  
Go Read The Democratic Party Platform - He Voted with The Party |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:38 AM |
#11 |
 
No, he grandstanded against the party's standard-bearer. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:38 AM |
#13 |
 
Per You - For Others He Stood Up For The Principles Of The Democratic Party |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:40 AM |
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If you have an alternate Democratic Party, who am I to interfere, but the |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:42 AM |
#20 |
 
Well - All One Has To Do Is Read The Party Platform - If Your Real democrats Have Not |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:44 AM |
#24 |
 
You can go indie at any time. I can't stop you. But DK voted |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:45 AM |
#25 |
  
Already Indie Because The So-Called democrats Have Forsaken Their Progressive Roots |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:48 AM |
#30 |
 
One notes the self-aggrandizement in your position. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:49 AM |
#33 |
 
Sorry That everyone Cannot Be Satisfied - Have Always Supported Kucinich And Democratic Principles |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:52 AM |
#34 |
 
Kucinich should re-examine his own, then. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:53 AM |
#35 |
 
The Party Platform Is Clear - Kucinich Voted The Party Platform |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:55 AM |
#36 |
 
Sorry. The bill was laid out clear and plain. He voted against it. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:56 AM |
#38 |
 
Sorry - The Bill Is Not In Agreement With The Parties Stated Platform |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:58 AM |
#39 |
 
Your Church Lady thing has nothing to do with the bill at hand or |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 03:00 AM |
#41 |
 
Shall we make that an "IOU" to be handed out to those without insurance... |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:11 AM |
#44 |
 
Go read the republican platform. |
tabasco |
Nov-08-09 03:04 PM |
#64 |
 
unfortunately, on this issue, the party's "standard bearer" |
GreenArrow |
Nov-08-09 02:16 PM |
#62 |
 
Amazing - Folks should be mad as hell that we are not being listened to by our majority. But instead |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 02:46 AM |
#26 |

I doubt it. |
Jennicut |
Nov-08-09 02:34 AM |
#3 |

I suppose this bill is like DADT |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 02:35 AM |
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Are you seriously conflating healthcare with DADT? |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 02:11 PM |
#60 |

This bill was awful |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 02:35 AM |
#6 |
 
The DLCers, Blue Dogs, Insurance Companies Are Ecstatic |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 02:39 AM |
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I think you missed the memo. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:08 AM |
#43 |
 
So because I can't afford insurance, I'll be fined & sent to jail. |
Desertrose |
Nov-08-09 02:39 AM |
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You seem to be missing the bit about subsidies. nt |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:12 AM |
#45 |
 
It was what it was. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:40 AM |
#16 |

Well I guess he could forgo his insurance and go to prison now |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 02:42 AM |
#21 |

I am honestly less worried about 2010 than I am about my own mother... |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:46 AM |
#27 |

I have one too |
AllentownJake |
Nov-08-09 02:49 AM |
#32 |

Dennis supports single payer, which would cover everyone |
Enrique |
Nov-08-09 02:38 AM |
#12 |
 
Unfortunately, Dennis did not get to vote for "nothing" or "single payer". |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:42 AM |
#19 |

I seem to recall Dennis saying that everyone should have the same |
Desertrose |
Nov-08-09 02:41 AM |
#18 |
 
So, if not single payer, then the status quo? |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:43 AM |
#23 |

I'll take a Grijalva over Kucinich any day of the week |
CreekDog |
Nov-08-09 02:43 AM |
#22 |

Forced by law to pay insurance companies money? |
Fading Captain |
Nov-08-09 02:46 AM |
#28 |
 
Congratulations on your good health. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:49 AM |
#31 |

I can't speak for him but... |
johnnie |
Nov-08-09 02:56 AM |
#37 |
 
I will. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:25 AM |
#46 |
 
Can't DK figure this out by himself? That a lot of people can't afford to wait for "perfect"? |
Yellow Horse |
Nov-08-09 12:01 PM |
#57 |

That mindset only applies to the military |
derby378 |
Nov-08-09 02:10 PM |
#59 |

He did the same thing with Voter Verified Paper Ballots... |
Yellow Horse |
Nov-08-09 03:07 AM |
#42 |

If he really said that, |
Jane Austin |
Nov-08-09 03:44 AM |
#47 |

He is willing to take a principled stand.... one I respect... |
wroberts189 |
Nov-08-09 04:14 AM |
#48 |

Kucinish stood up against big insurance & mandates. |
Vidar |
Nov-08-09 04:48 AM |
#49 |
 
He didn't stand up to shit |
ThePantaloon.com |
Nov-08-09 04:52 AM |
#52 |

Standing up to shit makes a mess, just like this bill. |
Vidar |
Nov-08-09 05:20 AM |
#56 |

Psh... Everyone knows that DK doesn't need health care. |
LostInAnomie |
Nov-08-09 04:50 AM |
#50 |

Exactly. That's what I asked on another thread. Kucinich can afford to wait |
CakeGrrl |
Nov-08-09 04:51 AM |
#51 |
 
Yes. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 02:04 PM |
#58 |

The way I see it, Dennis voted against ignoring the healthcare issue for another decade or two. |
Kitty Herder |
Nov-08-09 04:57 AM |
#53 |

I imagine he's done it before |
MSchreader |
Nov-08-09 05:01 AM |
#54 |

I don't have insurance and would probably get a subsidy under this bill.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-08-09 05:07 AM |
#55 |

We've gone from "health care reform" to "health insurance reform." |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-08-09 02:15 PM |
#61 |
 
No, this still counts as "health care reform". |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:02 PM |
#63 |

No, and that is why he is pushing a plan that would cover ALL Americans |
Bjorn Against |
Nov-08-09 03:06 PM |
#65 |
 
He voted against a plan that would cover 96% of Americans. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:10 PM |
#66 |

This bill covers hardly anyone, it mandates that we buy coverage |
Bjorn Against |
Nov-08-09 03:13 PM |
#67 |

Um, hate to say it but single-payer ain't free. |
Barack_America |
Nov-08-09 03:16 PM |
#69 |

I never said it was free, but it costs a hell of a lot less than our current system |
Bjorn Against |
Nov-08-09 03:18 PM |
#70 |

Why should he? |
LWolf |
Nov-08-09 03:14 PM |
#68 |

I wish someone would help me out |
happy2bhere |
Nov-08-09 03:25 PM |
#71 |